Thanos HOTU vs. The Kirby Avatar

Originally posted by Air Legend
Mr Master owned you so bad we should declare him the administrator for such devastating ownage

Are you scared because I'm exposing the truth?

😆 You're just saying that because you're butt hurt that your sock accounts are conspicuous and distinguishable. Hell, I don't think quanchi has ever debated line by line once in his entire time at KMC, let alone use my kind of vocabulary.

I'm not trying to put anyone's personal opinion on the floor, or even start an argument; (it's more of a question, than anything). On panel it shows that Thanos gets angry that the rest of the sentient entities of the universe (LT, Eternity, Heroes etc) oppose him as having/being God, the ultimate supremacy in the multiverse. But, logic would dictate even he does not have the power to influence their will to choose that. I'm assuming the Kirby avatar has absolute influence over anything, anyone does in Marvel, at his own choosing? I remember even the beyonder could not make a normal human willfully love him - the typical God archetype of spirit & human will. I'm not sure where it explicitly states that he couldn't have every being in Marvel not object to him to being supreme. But, I am still unsure if it was TOAA's plan to put Thanos on that pedestal of supremacy, since Eternity and the rest of the universe believe he willfully 'stole' it. Although, maybe that's a paradoxical question.. regardless, bringing up the specificities about hierarchy in the points about the avatar and HOTI is a bit controversial in its own right.

Also,

If you want to write paragraphs attacking what I said or meant, at least get what I said right. If you come off about as well reasoned as quanchi's. It won't get you very far. :/

In response to Air Legend's attempt (again!) to accuse Nvr of having a sock (again!), I will refute this (again!) with the following evidence (again!)

TheEyesoGOD [BANNED USER] [blahblahblahnottelling] (SAME BROWSER)(ALMOST CERTAIN A SOCK)

That is what appears when the sock checker is used to check Nvr. TheEyesoGOD was his account when he was banned before. Seeing as he got caught so quickly, if he had another, it would have shown up as well, since I don't see Nvr as being one of those proxy-changing, computer-altering people.

So accuse away, but he and Erik are different people, and you're completely wrong (again!) and will not get him banned on that basis, as I know that is your goal.

Originally posted by Mr Master
No one was able to repair the Universe, including "God."

That's the way the story was written.

Thanos clearly stated that "God" himself needed to destroy everything
in order to "Fix" the Flaw:

"had shown me the [B]Error of certain assumptions on my part,

foremost the conclusion that the Previous Almighty
had been nothing but mindless energy"

"the Trap I blundered into"

"what better way to handle a Cosmic dilemma,
than to pass off the responsibility to an unsuspecting fool?"

"I perceived Reality's sole Hope of salvation,

the Cure lay in starting over from scratch ...
I was the perfect candidate to be the destroyer of the Universe"

.........................................................................................

That's very clear,

God/Toaa gave Thanos their "on panel" Power,

so that Thanos could be the one to Fix the 616 Reality,
which supports All of Marvel.

.........................................................................................

Actually Thanos Knew exactly where Warlock was.

And on top of that, the story alludes to
Thanos not absorbing the realms beyond Space & Time
because he wanted Warlock to survive,

so that Warlock could witness Thanos' "grand gesture"
that "gesture" being, Thanos saving all of Marvel:

"Warlock, only you could've survived, Of Course,
you and Gamora were OUTSIDE this Reality. (Thanos KNEW)

That saved you from joining your comrades in Oblivion,
I see no reason you should Now not share their fate"

.........................................................................................

Warlock's response to that:

"Except that no one would Witness your grand gesture ...

I understand you better than perhaps, you do yourself"

Interesting, when it was Thanos who told us.

Also besides the fact that Warlock told us Thanos always KNEW:

Warlock says,

"Tricked, as much by yourself as by He who's power you coveted"

Next Panel Warlock says,

"I only point out what you already know in your heart"

.........................................................................................
Interesting, so God/Toaa didn't fool Thanos anymore than Thanos fooled himself.
.........................................................................................

My reply to your first quote handles this.

From your perspective
(which lacks a detailed recollection of the relevant issues) perhaps,
but now that we've seen the facts with the on panel evidence
it becomes clearer doesn't it.

Just like the first page of #5 is titled:

Thanos had,

"OMNIPOTENCE"

mwahaha [/B]

Nice scans MM. Didn't you say a few days ago it was never shown in The End, that Thanos never needed to fix the universe for TOAA but now your saying he did?? I believe I asked you about it and you said "trust me there no where that says that in The End". I don't mean to turn this into an argument so don't think that. 🙂

No one was able to repair the Universe, including "God."

That's the way the story was written.

Thanos clearly stated that "God" himself needed to destroy everything
in order to "Fix" the Flaw:

"had shown me the Error of certain assumptions on my part,

foremost the conclusion that the Previous Almighty
had been nothing but mindless energy"

"the Trap I blundered into"

"what better way to handle a Cosmic dilemma,
than to pass off the responsibility to an unsuspecting fool?"

"I perceived Reality's sole Hope of salvation,

the Cure lay in starting over from scratch ...
I was the perfect candidate to be the destroyer of the Universe"

.........................................................................................

That's very clear,

God/Toaa gave Thanos their "on panel" Power,

so that Thanos could be the one to Fix the 616 Reality,
which supports All of Marvel.

.........................................................................................

So you typed all that to repeat what I've just said ?
Point and fact : Thanos couldn't repair the Universe without erasing it and the recreating it . If he was Omnipotent in the true sense of the word he would have been able to do it without destroying it thus he is not omnipotent .

Quite simple

Actually Thanos Knew exactly where Warlock was.

And on top of that, the story alludes to
Thanos not absorbing the realms beyond Space & Time
because he wanted Warlock to survive,

so that Warlock could witness Thanos' "grand gesture"
that "gesture" being, Thanos saving all of Marvel:

"Warlock, only you could've survived, Of Course,
you and Gamora were OUTSIDE this Reality. (Thanos KNEW)

That saved you from joining your comrades in Oblivion,
I see no reason you should Now not share their fate"

.........................................................................................

Warlock's response to that:

"Except that no one would Witness your grand gesture ...

I understand you better than perhaps, you do yourself"

Thanos had no ideea who was coming through the portal , thus excluding the ideea that he let Warlock survive and also the fact that he was omniscient since he didn't have a clue . Thanos also says that "Only you could have somehow miss the end of the universe" clearly insinuating that Thanos had nothing to do with Warlock surviving . Besides ,your entire assumption about Thanos letting Warlock survive has very , very vague , inconclusive evidence based mostly on personal opinion that has already been countered .

I see you haven't adressed the point where he didn't know that Death still existed which , doesn't really need to be adressed because it's pretty obvious really .

Thanos stating "Only you and I remain" (Thus excluding the possibility that he knew of the existence of death :

Thanos pretty much being in shock when he sees Death :

Omniscient .. yeah 🙄

Another factor is the fact that it is stated that Death exists on another plane which if Thanos was not one with and didn't absorb thus excluding the ideea that he was one with the Omniverse :

Pretty clear that he was neither Omniscient nor one with the Omniverse (Everything )

My reply to your first quote handles this.

Actually this has nothing to do with the first post . It implies Omnscience (knowing the future and the outcome) not the Omnipotence (which he doesn't have) .

Not to mention that it's clearly stated by him that he was an "unsuspecting fool" :

Unsuspecting and Omniscient don't really get together well .

From your perspective
(which lacks a detailed recollection of the relevant issues) perhaps,
but now that we've seen the facts with the on panel evidence
it becomes clearer doesn't it.

Just like the first page of #5 is titled:

Thanos had,

"OMNIPOTENCE"

It was clearly stated that he can't repair the Universe without destroying and recreating it . So the fact that he is Omnipotent is nullified since it's clearly stated that he can't do it .

The words Omnipotent and can't don't really get along neither.

So if Thanos wasn't Omnipotent , Omniscient and Omnipresent and yet he was "Everything the Almighty was" I gotta say , the Almighty in Marvel Universe doesn't look that good 😉

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Hence why you aren't smart. I have never in the history of my being here debated line by line, And I do not care to debate master on everyone of his points, as I think alotof them are ego stroking and pretty useless. Erik on the other hand, actually takes the time to learn qoutes and all that other stuff. silly you. You have made a fool of yourself. and master hasn't owned me becuz he hasn't proven that thanos was omnicient. and since kirby was/is, then thanos coudlnt' ahve been all the almighty was. Next. PWNED.

Good observations Erik, kinda hard for them to swallow isn't it? 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos was almighty it was stated on panel and he proved it with his feats.

No he wasn't. His feats prove he WASN"T almighty.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No he wasn't. His feats prove he WASN"T almighty.

u think thanos loses but no one has better feats and claimed to be supreme.

ur hatred of thanos knows no bounds.

Originally posted by quanchi112
nver name me a guy u claim is superior to thanos in dc with better feats on panel ones to back it up./

u think thanos loses but no one has better feats and claimed to be supreme.

ur hatred of thanos knows no bounds.

who has better feats? The Presence. Lucifer. Michael. The Source. Mxy has feats on par. The Merged Spectre was the Omniverse as well.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
So you typed all that to repeat what I've just said ?
Point and fact : Thanos couldn't repair the Universe without erasing it and the recreating it . If he was Omnipotent in the true sense of the word he would have been able to do it without destroying it thus he is not omnipotent .

Quite simple

Thanos had no ideea who was coming through the portal , thus [b]excluding the ideea that he let Warlock survive and also the fact that he was omniscient since he didn't have a clue . Thanos also says that "Only you could have somehow miss the end of the universe" clearly insinuating that Thanos had nothing to do with Warlock surviving . Besides ,your entire assumption about Thanos letting Warlock survive has very , very vague , inconclusive evidence based mostly on personal opinion that has already been countered .

I see you haven't adressed the point where he didn't know that Death still existed which , doesn't really need to be adressed because it's pretty obvious really .

Thanos stating "Only you and I remain" (Thus excluding the possibility that he knew of the existence of death :

Thanos pretty much being in shock when he sees Death :

Omniscient .. yeah 🙄

Another factor is the fact that it is stated that Death exists on another plane which if Thanos was not one with and didn't absorb thus excluding the ideea that he was one with the Omniverse :

Pretty clear that he was neither Omniscient nor one with the Omniverse (Everything )

Actually this has nothing to do with the first post . It implies Omnscience (knowing the future and the outcome) not the Omnipotence (which he doesn't have) .

Not to mention that it's clearly stated by him that he was an "unsuspecting fool" :

Unsuspecting and Omniscient don't really get together well .

It was clearly stated that he can't repair the Universe without destroying and recreating it . So the fact that he is Omnipotent is nullified since it's clearly stated that he can't do it .

The words Omnipotent and can't don't really get along neither.

So if Thanos wasn't Omnipotent , Omniscient and Omnipresent and yet he was "Everything the Almighty was" I gotta say , the Almighty in Marvel Universe doesn't look that good 😉 [/B]

for those who missed it the first time. So eloquently put what I've been arguing for EVER. Weep children. he has pwned every TOTU supporter with irrefutable argument. Kirby Avatar for the win.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
for those who missed it the first time. So eloquently put what I've been arguing for EVER. Weep children. he has pwned every TOTU supporter with irrefutable argument. Kirby Avatar for the win.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
for those who missed it the first time. So eloquently put what I've been arguing for EVER. Weep children. he has pwned every TOTU supporter with irrefutable argument. Kirby Avatar for the win.

its the way it is,

no one could defeat thanos and it wasnt like someone used a genesis box nver.

nothing could stop thanos. thanos did the right thing and saved all.

Originally posted by Air Legend
😆
Do you even know what the word eloquent means?
Quit patting yourself on the back.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
If I didn't know what it meant, I wouldn't have used it in the correct context. Now would I? Do you know what Sore loser means? Do you know what Troll means? Do you know what you have been pwned means? inquiring minds wanna know.

ps i know it hurts that the presence isnt supreme.

but its just comics.

Originally posted by quanchi112
quit trying to bait him into an argument. argue comics nver. come on dont be mad at me cuz thanos has more feats and was supreme in comics.

ps i know it hurts that the presence isnt supreme.

but its just comics.

Quan. You have very limited understanding. Do not and I repeat do not tell me what i"m trying to do. You obviously lack the intelligence to see that he is constantly starting with me. Now back up you troll.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Quan. You have very limited understanding. Do not and I repeat do not tell me what i"m trying to do. You obviously lack the intelligence to see that he is constantly starting with me. Now back up you troll.

my argument has always ben sound.

thanos on panel was supreme and proved it per feats.

Originally posted by quanchi112
how come this always happens to u. its not like u are completely innocent in the matter. i mean come on. argue comics and dont insult anyone. u have insulted me before but how many times have i insulted u back.

my argument has always ben sound.

thanos on panel was supreme and proved it per feats.

YOur statement has nothing to do with the fact that he insulted me and I very nicely got him right together. and you stuck your big FAT NOSEY self into something that didn't have anything to do with you. and then you didn't even have your facts right. So from now on, back up. You troll.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
YOur statement has nothing to do with the fact that he insulted me and I very nicely got him right together. and you stuck your big FAT NOSEY self into something that didn't have anything to do with you. and then you didn't even have your facts right. So from now on, back up. You troll.

anyways thanos like i always have said was unbeatable. accomplished more on panel than anyone.

nuff said.

Originally posted by quanchi112
now u insult me. figures. typical. u havent changed a bit.

anyways thanos like i always have said was unbeatable. accomplished more on panel than anyone.

nuff said.

:bravo: 💃