Spawn Ranking.

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Spawn Ranking.

From each respective Age.
Ware would you rank him (if there is a rank.) or to whom would he be comparable to?

Example
First Age Spawn - Magneto, Exodus, Ghost Rider etc…

Second Age Spawn (King of Hell) - Lobo, King of Hell Ghost Rider, etc..

Third Age Spawn - Black Adam, Shaman X-Man, etc…

Fourth Age Spawn (God Spawn) - ????????????

Comments along with the comparion or raking are appreciated and helpful.

I always thought first age spawns energy projection was silver surfer level but that is where the similarities ended...he is very hard to gauge since he is a very unique character. I say exodus is a fair gaguing for first age spawn but how would his body react to being completely crushed...I t would have taken a ton of his power to rebuild himself fully. Also if somebody could slug it out with him for a while he would depleat himself...never really read spawn other than first age so i am not really sure where to put the other ages.

god spawn>>>galactus

The range of God Spawn's abilities are kind of ambigous. Remember his feats:

-created a New Earth
-closed the portals of Heaven and Hell
-wrecked Zera of the Seraphim
-punched off Thamuz' face
-destroyed and resurrected the human race
-killed the armies of heaven and hell
-opened the earth to swallow all rebel hellspawns

Now, remember that he is also the EQUAL of GOD and SATAN- Therefore he can also:

-created life: people, animals, angels, demons, his own creatures
-give power to others the way God and Satan would
-grant one immortality the way God granted Zera (remember, she cannot die, she was still alive despite being decapitated)
-created worlds/dimensions (heaven and hell are "world-dimensions" created by God and Satan)

Also remember that God Spawn is:

-invulnerable
-immortal
-has infinite energy, he even stated that a war between himself and God and Satan would be pointless because they would simply battle forever with no victory.

So YES, God Spawn is way above Galactus. Galactus can die, he can be destroyed through various means. The only way God Spawn can die or be destroyed is is the Mother of Creation- M.O.M. takes away the power she granted him.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
The range of [b]God Spawn's abilities are kind of ambigous. Remember his feats:

-created a New Earth
-closed the portals of Heaven and Hell
-wrecked Zera of the Seraphim
-punched off Thamuz' face
-destroyed and resurrected the human race
-killed the armies of heaven and hell
-opened the earth to swallow all rebel hellspawns

Now, remember that he is also the EQUAL of GOD and SATAN- Therefore he can also:

-created life: people, animals, angels, demons, his own creatures
-give power to others the way God and Satan would
-grant one immortality the way God granted Zera (remember, she cannot die, she was still alive despite being decapitated)
-created worlds/dimensions (heaven and hell are "world-dimensions" created by God and Satan)

Also remember that God Spawn is:

-invulnerable
-immortal
-has infinite energy, he even stated that a war between himself and God and Satan would be pointless because they would simply battle forever with no victory.

So YES, God Spawn is way above Galactus. Galactus can die, he can be destroyed through various means. The only way God Spawn can die or be destroyed is is the Mother of Creation- M.O.M. takes away the power she granted him. [/B]


I called him Man of miracles. 😖hifty:

I think those are placed perfectly id369. God Spawn Vs Scarlet Witch?

Well if its CBR rules. God Spawn or would be fairly tough to gauge. The problem is, God Spawn lacks major powerful feats that (destructive wise) that place him along the likes as Galactus.

We have seen, lows and highs from Galactus. But transporting Galaxies, wrecking several solar systems in one shot. Those are feats God Spawn lacks, and really place a burden over feats. However its within reason for him to call forth armies from both Heaven and Hell and constantly resurrect them.

King of Hell is also interesting. If its CBR rules, and you place him under that power level, yet execpting all the other feats (prior to God Spawn events).

Spawn will be hard to put down - unless you be-head him with a holy weapon.
Magic (mid level showings compared to other dedicated Magicians)
Matter Transmutation (limited but useful)
Reality Adjustment (vary limited outside his realm)
Time Manipulation (time stopping feat)
Telepathy (not heavy in use, but much to work with you would be surprised at what level he has it).
And of course his Suit.

King of Hell Spawn is a Jack of all Trades with immense potential. But he only really stands out in his inability to stay dead.

@Takion - I am not sure how to judge or call a match with a reality warper of Crazy Scarlet Witch.

God Spawn = Thanos with the HOTU?

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
God Spawn = Thanos with the HOTU?

I would say no.

But instead of me telling you why.
You can read the issues.

http://rapidshare.com/files/2431407/Spawn_161__DRW_.cbr.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/5978430/Spawn_162__2006___eclipse-DCP_.cbz
http://rapidshare.com/files/9669322/Spawn_163__2006___eclipse-DCP_.cbz

A major logical flaw when discussing God Spawn that tends to come up is assuming that the abilities of "God" in Spawn's reality, DC, and 616 are all equal.

This is FAR from the case. Something like the full power of the Presence, the HOTU or the infinity gauntlet eclipses the abilities of "god" and "satan" shown in spawn by many, many orders of magnitude.

God Spawn only did last for two issues. I'm sure we'll see him again.

Has god spawn done anything more impressive than Darkseid has?

First age - Cyclops, Ghost Rider and Damage

Second age - Havok, Ms Marvel, Blastaar.

Third age - Silver Surfer, Black Bolt and the Eradicator.

Fourth age - Skyfather at least, possibly Abstract.

Originally posted by llagrok
Has god spawn done anything more impressive than Darkseid has?

First age - Cyclops, Ghost Rider and Damage

Second age - Havok, Ms Marvel, Blastaar.

Third age - Silver Surfer, Black Bolt and the Eradicator.

Fourth age - Skyfather at least, possibly Abstract.

Looks like fair ranking exept for...second and third ages are messed up. Ranks for second should be used at third and vise versa.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Looks like fair ranking exept for...second and third ages are messed up. Ranks for second should be used at third and vise versa.

Right, my bad.

I already posted the feats of God Spawn. Take it or leave it, and decide for yourselves.

AS for God Spawn=Thanos w HOTI...no way. Not at all. Thanos w HOTI absorbed the Living Tribunal, he could most likely absorb God Spawn as well.

Originally posted by Takion
I called him Man of miracles. 😖hifty:

I think those are placed perfectly id369. God Spawn Vs Scarlet Witch?

Man of Miracles is just an avatar of the Mother of Creation. The Mother is both male and female, but God, Satan, and the rest of her children call her mother.

She is the boss. No if's, and's, or but's. Man of Miracles is just an avatar she used, just like the avatar of Kali, Keeper of the Greenworld, Jesus Christ, Gaia, and the angel who impregnated Wanda with the twins.

Unfortunately Illagork, your assuming that Spawn being second to Images God is on Par with a Sky father. Interesting. 🤪

Originally posted by Takion
Unfortunately Illagork, your assuming that Spawn being second to Images God is on Par with a Sky father. Interesting. 🤪

From his feats and actions, this is about where he should be. There's nothing God Spawn can do that hasn't been done by Odin/Seth/Zeus or similar.

putting him at "abstract" levels is ridiculous, IMHO. For instance- take 616 Death. 616 Death is impossible to injure (not having a physical body), has cosmic power on galactus' level, can render anyone or anything not just immortal but completely unkillable as well, has access to the "well of all knowledge" making it essentially omnipotent (there's nothing the well doesn't know, past present or future) and even RESIDUE of death's power was sufficent to grant any wish at any time when marlo chandler had the "death wish". God Spawn is not this powerful.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
From his feats and actions, this is about where he should be. There's nothing God Spawn can do that hasn't been done by Odin/Seth/Zeus or similar.

putting him at "abstract" levels is ridiculous, IMHO. For instance- take 616 Death. 616 Death is impossible to injure (not having a physical body), has cosmic power on galactus' level, can render anyone or anything not just immortal but completely unkillable as well, has access to the "well of all knowledge" making it essentially omnipotent (there's nothing the well doesn't know, past present or future) and even RESIDUE of death's power was sufficent to grant any wish at any time when marlo chandler had the "death wish". God Spawn is not this powerful.


Was God Spawn not told to be right under M.O.M (God of Image level)? So I'm sure he's an abstract.

Originally posted by Takion
Was God Spawn not told to be right under M.O.M (God of Image level)? So I'm sure he's an abstract.

Image has conflicting accounts of who is responsible for creation, depending on which book you read.

For instance, according to WildCATS continuity, SPARTAN ascended to Godhood at one point and rebirths the universe.

Spawn and M.O.M aren't mentioned at all. So referring to the entity that appears in Spawn as "the god of image" is erroneous.

And no, Spawn is not an abstract. Abstracts are immortal, unkillable concepts that are supreme within their assigned roles. Spawn's power clearly exists only by the will of another being and can be taken at any time. Spawn is so far below a 616 "abstract" as to be laughable. Eternity, Inifinty, Order, Chaos, etc would and could blink him out of existence.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Image has conflicting accounts of who is responsible for creation, depending on which book you read.

For instance, according to WildCATS continuity, [b]SPARTAN ascended to Godhood at one point and rebirths the universe.

Spawn and M.O.M aren't mentioned at all. So referring to the entity that appears in Spawn as "the god of image" is erroneous.

And no, Spawn is not an abstract. Abstracts are immortal, unkillable concepts that are supreme within their assigned roles. Spawn's power clearly exists only by the will of another being and can be taken at any time. Spawn is so far below a 616 "abstract" as to be laughable. Eternity, Inifinty, Order, Chaos, etc would and could blink him out of existence. [/B]


Oh God, Spawn has references to other characters, like Savage Dragon.

Oh and for your second point.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
The range of [b]God Spawn's abilities are kind of ambigous. Remember his feats:

-created a New Earth
-closed the portals of Heaven and Hell
-wrecked Zera of the Seraphim
-punched off Thamuz' face
-destroyed and resurrected the human race
-killed the armies of heaven and hell
-opened the earth to swallow all rebel hellspawns

Now, remember that he is also the EQUAL of GOD and SATAN- Therefore he can also:

-created life: people, animals, angels, demons, his own creatures
-give power to others the way God and Satan would
-grant one immortality the way God granted Zera (remember, she cannot die, she was still alive despite being decapitated)
-created worlds/dimensions (heaven and hell are "world-dimensions" created by God and Satan)

Also remember that God Spawn is:

-invulnerable
-immortal
-has infinite energy, he even stated that a war between himself and God and Satan would be pointless because they would simply battle forever with no victory.

So YES, God Spawn is way above Galactus. Galactus can die, he can be destroyed through various means. The only way God Spawn can die or be destroyed is is the Mother of Creation- M.O.M. takes away the power she granted him. [/B]