Michael's Suicide Gauntlet

LMAO. u didnt read anything did you. "it says omniverses" " it says omniverses", is that the only argument there is for tribunal?! it says PIS!!! omniverse = all realities of ALL comic book creators. marvel characters do NOT have the copyright to exert their influence on other publisher realities. not even the SUPREME TOAA{i.e. stan lee etc} can surpass the laws of wordly copyright, UNDERSTAND THAT so i dont keep repeating myself. in the marvel reality, there is a void, there is a singular multiverse, and there is a beyond realm. that is IT, that is the marvel MEGAVERSE.

just because marvel carelessly jugles terms like universe and omniverse doesnt mean its valid. a while ago the scarlet witch was said to be an omniversal threat and genis vell was called an omniversal telepath, yet does ANY1 here believe that?!
ofcourse NO, marvel does not have copyright of any megaverse outside itself. the LT GUARDS the singular multiverse, and ALL his on panel feats ave never shown him doing anything more than destroying UNIVERSES. and he was destroyed when the 616 UNIVERSE was destroyed which was linked to all other universes in the SINGULAR multiverse. pre retconned beyonder made a WUSS out of LT and he was shown kneeling to the phoenix force in a premonition.

the singular multiverse exists as a result of the original infinite being comitting suicide. and LT only GUARDS that singular multiverse. he didnt create it nor can he destroy it.

the vertigo reality is different from marvel, in that ITS megaverse consists of MULTIPLE{currently 3 } MULTIVERSES, a void, and the city of heaven/hell and realms of the gods. overall it is a MUCH larger megaverse than marvel ON PANEL. and micheal/lucifer/elaine have MUCH more impressive feats than even the hypothetical/fake LT that people make out to be. they have creaed multiverses, stood at multiverse shattering explosion, proven to be beyond death/abstract/creation etc. n whatnot. what has LT done, cancell the affects of the IG which only destroyed universal abstracts with reletive ease???????

please dont REACH OUT so much{as was inapropriately said before}. LT will get murdered.

oh n btw there is no such thing as omniversES. all compound realities of all comic book publishers are called the OMNIVERSE. there is only one. just goes to show how silly that scan talking about omniverses is.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
LMAO. u didnt read anything did you. "it says omniverses" " it says omniverses", is that the only argument there is for tribunal?! it says PIS!!! omniverse = all realities of ALL comic book creators. marvel characters do NOT have the copyright to exert their influence on other publisher realities. not even the SUPREME TOAA{i.e. stan lee etc} can surpass the laws of wordly copyright, UNDERSTAND THAT so i dont keep repeating myself. in the marvel reality, there is a void, there is a singular multiverse, and there is a beyond realm. that is IT, that is the marvel MEGAVERSE.

just because marvel carelessly jugles terms like universe and omniverse doesnt mean its valid. a while ago the scarlet witch was said to be an omniversal threat and genis vell was called an omniversal telepath, yet does ANY1 here believe that?!
ofcourse NO, marvel does not have copyright of any megaverse outside itself. the LT GUARDS the singular multiverse, and ALL his on panel feats ave never shown him doing anything more than destroying UNIVERSES. and he was destroyed when the 616 UNIVERSE was destroyed which was linked to all other universes in the SINGULAR multiverse. pre retconned beyonder made a WUSS out of LT and he was shown kneeling to the phoenix force in a premonition.

the singular multiverse exists as a result of the original infinite being comitting suicide. and LT only GUARDS that singular multiverse. he didnt create it nor can he destroy it.

the vertigo reality is different from marvel, in that ITS megaverse consists of MULTIPLE{currently 3 } MULTIVERSES, a void, and the city of heaven/hell and realms of the gods. overall it is a MUCH larger megaverse than marvel ON PANEL. and micheal/lucifer/elaine have MUCH more impressive feats than even the hypothetical/fake LT that people make out to be. they have creaed multiverses, stood at multiverse shattering explosion, proven to be beyond death/abstract/creation etc. n whatnot. what has LT done, cancell the affects of the IG which only destroyed universal abstracts with reletive ease???????

please dont REACH OUT so much{as was inapropriately said before}. LT will get murdered.

oh n btw there is no such thing as omniversES. all compound realities of all comic book publishers are called the OMNIVERSE. there is only one. just goes to show how silly that scan talking about omniverses is.

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Marvel has there own Omniverse, as is mentioned both on Panel and on Marvel.com and the handsbok too. If you ask for a complete Beatdown ask me to find the scan and the reference, Wait I will do that just to show you how wrong you are, I said exactly the same thing when I began here, reading on wikipedia.org much?

http://img349.imageshack.us/my.php?image=m10cr3.jpg
http://img486.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mjjhb4.jpg
(reference to MJJ which was a Omniversal Threat)

(excerpt from the Official Handbook 2006)
http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=omniis1cz2.jpg

First time the Omniverse was acknowledged by Marvel ON PANEL
http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=q1nv7.jpg
http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=q2wu1.jpg
http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=q3pj4.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/my.php?image=q4vk9.jpg

And if you doesn't trust my words well then what about marvel own
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe

some mentions of other Multiverses
The Ultraverse is in one Multiverse and many stories came from that Multiverse. The New Universe is also located in yet another Multiverse.
(that's where the Starbrand came from) Two Megaverses were depicted on panel also. There are also other Realms that are detached from Space & Time and exist outside of any Reality (like the domain of the Cosmic Anchors) The Masters of the Matrix were also depicted in another Multiverse

I think its quiet clear that Marvel does in fact have a Omniverse and Guess how watches over it LT (like my previous scan clearly showed)

LT I will just say it again have created and destroyed two Megaverses On Panel

PIS. just because omniverse is a word kicked around does not make it true. i gave you evidence from the scan you produced before. IF you claim to be right then EXPLAIN to me what the definition of an omniverses is. if it isnt multiverse/megaverse and at the same time it doesnt include the realities of other comic book publishers than WHAT IS IT?! lmao, stop acting foolish, such a thing as YOUR definition of omniverse doesnt exist. the realms you talked about are PART of the multiverse. other than the beyond realm.

universe=sef explanatory
multiverse= an infinite continuum of CONNECTED universes which exists in its own confined boundaries
megaverse= complete reality of ONE comic book publisher containing any dfineable place/existance ever mentioned in the history of that comic, given that it is not amalgam
omniverse= the compendium of ALL realities, defineable, that exist in any and ALL comic book publishers and potentially everything in media which can be added to it. part of the omniverse is the realy depicted in any amalgams etc.

GET IT. marvel only has a single multiverse. and LT protects it. he has been showing holding two ORBS OF LIGHT in his palms. theyr are stated to be megaverses because of PIS. ALL of marvel is a megaverse by definition. careless use of words does not equal reality. confusion and vagueness made the examples your giving, nuthing more. or marvel can excpect a big ass lwsuit against themselves.

oh yea, LT is fried.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
PIS. just because omniverse is a word kicked around does not make it true. i gave you evidence from the scan you produced before. IF you claim to be right then EXPLAIN to me what the definition of an omniverses is. if it isnt multiverse/megaverse and at the same time it doesnt include the realities of other comic book publishers than WHAT IS IT?! lmao, stop acting foolish, such a thing as YOUR definition of omniverse doesnt exist. the realms you talked about are PART of the multiverse. other than the beyond realm.

universe=sef explanatory
multiverse= an infinite continuum of CONNECTED universes which exists in its own confined boundaries
megaverse= complete reality of ONE comic book publisher containing any dfineable place/existance ever mentioned in the history of that comic, given that it is not amalgam
omniverse= the compendium of ALL realities, defineable, that exist in any and ALL comic book publishers and potentially everything in media which can be added to it. part of the omniverse is the realy depicted in any amalgams etc.

GET IT. marvel only has a single multiverse. and LT protects it. he has been showing holding two ORBS OF LIGHT in his palms. theyr are stated to be megaverses because of PIS. ALL of marvel is a megaverse by definition. careless use of words does not equal reality. confusion and vagueness made the examples your giving, nuthing more. or marvel can excpect a big ass lwsuit against themselves.

oh yea, LT is fried.

are you having a hard time accepting facts??? Because all I see is a poster that constantly is denying On Panel proof because the poster has decided that whatever is to be shown isn't the truth.

I have already showed you that marvel has a omniverse and multiply Multiverses they uses in there comics if you cannot accept what is shown on panel then I cannot debate with you since it would be utterly pointless if whats shown on panel isn't good enough for you.

Its funny to see how all this that is published by Marvel and acknowlegde by marvel as canon material is regarded by you as PIS even there own site is full of PIS apparently and why do you think Marvel hasn't been sued yet because in there Comics they can choose to define there universe in any way they see fit. Just Like DC can if they want too, to say that they have a Omniverse isn't to attack the others companies rights.

Ore do you actually want a picture of it???

LT isn't fried.

Originally posted by Utrigita
are you having a hard time accepting facts??? Because all I see is a poster that constantly is denying On Panel proof because the poster has decided that whatever is to be shown isn't the truth.

I have already showed you that marvel has a omniverse and multiply Multiverses they uses in there comics if you cannot accept what is shown on panel then I cannot debate with you since it would be utterly pointless if whats shown on panel isn't good enough for you.

Its funny to see how all this that is published by Marvel and acknowlegde by marvel as canon material is regarded by you as PIS even there own site is full of PIS apparently and why do you think Marvel hasn't been sued yet because in there Comics they can choose to define there universe in any way they see fit. Just Like DC can if they want too, to say that they have a Omniverse isn't to attack the others companies rights.

Ore do you actually want a picture of it???

LT isn't fried.

PIS. just because omniverse is a word kicked around does not make it true. i gave you evidence from the scan you produced before. IF you claim to be right then EXPLAIN to me what the definition of an omniverses is. if it isnt multiverse/megaverse and at the same time it doesnt include the realities of other comic book publishers than WHAT IS IT?! lmao, stop acting foolish, such a thing as YOUR definition of omniverse doesnt exist. the realms you talked about are PART of the multiverse. other than the beyond realm.

universe=sef explanatory
multiverse= an infinite continuum of CONNECTED universes which exists in its own confined boundaries
megaverse= complete reality of ONE comic book publisher containing any dfineable place/existance ever mentioned in the history of that comic, given that it is not amalgam
omniverse= the compendium of ALL realities, defineable, that exist in any and ALL comic book publishers and potentially everything in media which can be added to it. part of the omniverse is the realy depicted in any amalgams etc.

GET IT. marvel only has a single multiverse. and LT protects it. he has been showing holding two ORBS OF LIGHT in his palms. theyr are stated to be megaverses because of PIS. ALL of marvel is a megaverse by definition. careless use of words does not equal reality. confusion and vagueness made the examples your giving, nuthing more. or marvel can excpect a big ass lwsuit against themselves.

oh yea, LT is fried.

re read and reply. i asked you to DEFINE the characteristics of YOUR versipon of an omniverse. you can not simply becaus it is incompatible with logic. the reason marvel has not been sued is becaus they were mishandling words and nothing more. im talking about universally accepted definitions here. i explained what uni/multi/mega/omniverse meant. if you continue to say that LT held two megaverses then your implying that he held two realities of two different comic book creatrs. and you shud accept it and give evidence to back it up. on the other hand, you CANT say that they are both megaverses and yet somehow paradoxically they are BOTH marvel. it is either one or the other. if you keep defining them as such then its clear thats its a wrong definiton and what LT is really holding in his hand are two UNIVERSES. unless he has surpassed the laws of definiton and wordly copyright. again

universe=sef explanatory
multiverse= an infinite continuum of CONNECTED universes which exists in its own confined boundaries
megaverse= complete reality of ONE comic book publisher containing any dfineable place/existance ever mentioned in the history of that comic, given that it is not amalgam
omniverse= the compendium of ALL realities, defineable, that exist in any and ALL comic book publishers and potentially everything in media which can be added to it. part of the omniverse is the realy depicted in any amalgams etc.

im not having a hard time accepting fact, your just not understanding the paradox behind your argument and that PIS is the reason for it. it has nuthing to do with what I choose to define as PIS but what LOGIC dictates as PIS.

Marvel throws terms like Omnipotence , Omniverse and the like without really knowing the true sense of the word so I'm not really surprised of the existent contradictions .

Marvel can define words however it likes.

Their fiction, their rules.

No one cares what Random Person On The Internet A thinks, I'm afraid.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Marvel can define words however it likes.

Their fiction, their rules.

No one cares what Random Person On The Internet A thinks, I'm afraid.

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i think erik thinks he knows marvel better than they do.

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Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Marvel throws terms like Omnipotence , Omniverse and the like without really knowing the true sense of the word so I'm not really surprised of the existent contradictions .

I find it weird, Here you are knocking marvel but yet you like Mageneto (which i'm guessing from your username) 😬

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Marvel can define words however it likes.

Their fiction, their rules.

No one cares what Random Person On The Internet A thinks, I'm afraid.

This post just screams " desperate for attention " 😆

And quanchi as usual gets into discussions without knowing what he's talking about .

Originally posted by Kazenji
I find it weird, Here you are knocking marvel but yet you like Mageneto (which i'm guessing from your username) 😬

Who said I don't like Marvel ?

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Who said I don't like Marvel ?

This post just screams " desperate for attention "

No. it screams that leonheartmm is an idiot who ignores canon because he thinks he knows more than Marvel.

Who said I don't like Marvel ?

Anyone with reasoning skills above that of a toddler and who has seen at least 2 of your posts.

LOl Lucifer > Beyonder.

Poor deluded soul.

its painfully obvious.

Not really

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
No. it screams that leonheartmm is an idiot who ignores canon because he thinks he knows more than Marvel.

Anyone with reasoning skills above that of a toddler and who has seen at least 2 of your posts.

LOl Lucifer > Beyonder.

Poor deluded soul.

It's obvious you're trying to start a flame war but I'm not going to lower myself to your level 😉

Try discussing with quanchi who is somebody of your own intelligence .

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
It's obvious you're trying to start a flame war but I'm not going to lower myself to your level 😉

Try discussing with quanchi who is somebody of your own intelligence .

ur funny to me.

put the whole forum on ignore. state ur opinion and move on then. this way u wont have to debate with anyone in here from now on.

I've had my share on other forums with idiots and biased people so I stopped talking with them . It's quite simple .

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
It's obvious you're trying to start a flame war but I'm not going to lower myself to your level 😉

Try discussing with quanchi who is somebody of your own intelligence .

You're not exactly one to talk. You've been regarded as a joke and troll since you started posting here.

You must have an inferiority complex when talking to me so you resort to insults . That's just sad