Pyron vs. the DBZverse

Started by EvilAngel18 pages

No, he wouldn't as i have tried to explain to you before. Bad Wolf is beyond atomic level of control over time, space and matter. You cannot be above it in power.

Meaning she could exist at the Dawn of time and erase someone at the end of time.

Originally posted by superchron
Actually I was just commenting on how chicken doesn't read comics

Oh... it just felt a bit more, general people.... excuse my post then

Originally posted by EvilAngel
No, he wouldn't as i have tried to explain to you before. Bad Wolf is beyond atomic level of control over time, space and matter. You cannot be above it in power.

Meaning she could exist at the Dawn of time and erase someone at the end of time.

You act like Beyonder can't do any of that that. Hell, the Infinity Gauntlet can do that, let alone Beyonder. Beyonder can do that shit at a subatomic level, he created a multiverse at least a quintillion times larger than the Marvel infinite Multiverse(quinitllion of times>infinity). He can create timelines, and pull beings he created from these timelines into the present or past(like he did with the Dr. Doom he made).

Let me ask you, what feats does Bad Wolf have?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx

Let me ask you, what feats does Bad Wolf have?
Is one with the time vortex...

He can kill beings in different times without even thinking about it?

Wipe out the daleks from creation that weren't in the void.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Is one with the time vortex...

He can kill beings in different times without even thinking about it?

Wipe out the daleks from creation that weren't in the void.

1. Not a feat.

2. So? Beyonder destroyed galaxies, ripped dimensional boundaries, and exploded stars by thinking too much. And how can you kill without thinking?

3. ....What?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Not a feat.

2. So? Beyonder destroyed galaxies, ripped dimensional boundaries, and exploded stars by thinking too much. And how can you kill without thinking?

3. ....What?

1. True, a fact isn't

2. She is one with the Time vortex. That IS creation. Bad Wolf is a being that can do the Time Vortex's will with control over every aspect of creation. (Bad Wolf in welsh) And the Bay rose lasts see's the doctor is called . In comparison there's no marvel or DC character that come close to that kind of power.

And just because i found it really cool here's the list of all the places she spread the worlds Bad Wolf throughout almost every episode in the series.

"Rose" Some fans argue the Nestene Consciousness mouthed "Bad Wolf".

"The End of the World": The Moxx of Balhoon mentions in a half-heard conversation to the Face of Boe the "Bad Wolf scenario."

"The Unquiet Dead": When the clairvoyant Gwyneth reads Rose's mind, she says, "The things you've seen... the darkness.. the Big Bad Wolf!"

"Aliens of London"/"World War Three": A young boy spray-paints the graffiti BAD WOLF on the side of the TARDIS and later cleans it off.

"Dalek": The call sign for Henry van Statten's private helicopter is "Bad Wolf One"

"The Long Game": One of the several thousand television channels being broadcast from Satellite Five is BAD WOLFTV.

"Father's Day": A poster advertising a rave in 1987 has the words "BAD WOLF" defacing it.

"The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances": The bomb that Captain Jack rides at the end of the story is labelled "SCHLECHTER WOLF", which literally translates as "Bad (in the sense of to do badly) Wolf" in German (The correct translation of "Bad Wolf" into German is "Böser Wolf"😉.

"Boom Town": A nuclear power plant is dubbed the Blaidd Drwg project, which is Welsh for "Bad Wolf". The Doctor also noticed for the first time that the phrase had been following them around. He dismisses it as a simple coincidence, however.

"Bad Wolf"/"The Parting of the Ways": The corporation that runs the Game Station (formerly Satellite Five) is called the Badwolf Corporation.

In the Very Last episode of Series two, the crack in the void comes out at "Dårlig ulv stranden" Which translates to, Bad Wolf Bay.

3. She basically wipes out a few million daleks and their ships, aswell as the Dalek Emperor

Originally posted by EvilAngel
1. True, a fact isn't

2. She is one with the Time vortex. That IS creation. Bad Wolf is a being that can do the Time Vortex's will with control over every aspect of creation. (Bad Wolf in welsh) And the Bay rose lasts see's the doctor is called . In comparison there's no marvel or DC character that come close to that kind of power.

And just because i found it really cool here's the list of all the places she spread the worlds Bad Wolf throughout almost every episode in the series.

"Rose" Some fans argue the Nestene Consciousness mouthed "Bad Wolf".

"The End of the World": The Moxx of Balhoon mentions in a half-heard conversation to the Face of Boe the "Bad Wolf scenario."

"The Unquiet Dead": When the clairvoyant Gwyneth reads Rose's mind, she says, "The things you've seen... the darkness.. the Big Bad Wolf!"

"Aliens of London"/"World War Three": A young boy spray-paints the graffiti BAD WOLF on the side of the TARDIS and later cleans it off.

"Dalek": The call sign for Henry van Statten's private helicopter is "Bad Wolf One"

"The Long Game": One of the several thousand television channels being broadcast from Satellite Five is BAD WOLFTV.

"Father's Day": A poster advertising a rave in 1987 has the words "BAD WOLF" defacing it.

"The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances": The bomb that Captain Jack rides at the end of the story is labelled "SCHLECHTER WOLF", which literally translates as "Bad (in the sense of to do badly) Wolf" in German (The correct translation of "Bad Wolf" into German is "Böser Wolf"😉.

"Boom Town": A nuclear power plant is dubbed the Blaidd Drwg project, which is Welsh for "Bad Wolf". The Doctor also noticed for the first time that the phrase had been following them around. He dismisses it as a simple coincidence, however.

"Bad Wolf"/"The Parting of the Ways": The corporation that runs the Game Station (formerly Satellite Five) is called the Badwolf Corporation.

In the Very Last episode of Series two, the crack in the void comes out at "Dårlig ulv stranden" Which translates to, Bad Wolf Bay.

3. She basically wipes out a few million daleks and their ships, aswell as the Dalek Emperor

1. That is what she is, not what she has done.

2. I love how you state a fact about comics, when you know little about them. The Infinity Gauntlet can do ALL of that, and more, it has total control over time, power, reality, souls, space, and mind. Basically, it makes you a universal God. Living Tribunal just nullfied it like it was nothing. Beyonder was so much more powerful than him, that I really don't know of a number high enough to describe it, he was literally afraid and trembling at Beyonder's power. He has the name "Beyonder" for a reason.

3. ...What are Daleks? Because that feat sounds like even a Skyfather like Odin could do it...

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. That is what she is, not what she has done.

2. I love how you state a fact about comics, when you know little about them. The Infinity Gauntlet can do ALL of that, and more, it has total control over time, power, reality, souls, space, and mind. Basically, it makes you a universal God. Living Tribunal just nullfied it like it was nothing. Beyonder was so much more powerful than him, that I really don't know of a number high enough to describe it, he was literally afraid and trembling at Beyonder's power. He has the name "Beyonder" for a reason.

3. ...What are Daleks? Because that feat sounds like even a Skyfather like Odin could do it...

1. Exactly. What she is, is the force of creation... you're insane if you think beyonder can best that.

It's like.... the train man in the matrix revolution. Sure Neo is hella powerful. But in the end it's the train mans box (Train man being Time Vortex) And in that box (Creation) He's god, the most powerful. He build it, in this case he would be one with it. Grasp the facts.

2. I love how you seem to ignore the key words of what i say. Bad Wolf is the puppet if you like of the Time Vortex, There is no more powerful that that. It simply doesn't happen.

3. Well they could, but would they do it without moving or doing anything?

Has Qui-Gon Jinn's gospels taught you nothing?

There's always a bigger fish.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Has Qui-Gon Jinn;s gospels taught you nothing?

There's always a bigger fish.

If thats the scenario, The Tome Vortex is the ocean. Bad Wolf is one with the ocean but can do anything that involves manipulating the ocean or anything in it. I'm feeling a Gaara style crush... but with water

Sand COFFIN!

I can replicate most of Gaara's moves, but I use my own body fat instead of sand.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
1. Exactly. What she is, is the force of creation... you're insane if you think beyonder can best that.

It's like.... the train man in the matrix revolution. Sure Neo is hella powerful. But in the end it's the train mans box (Train man being Time Vortex) And in that box (Creation) He's god, the most powerful. He build it, in this case he would be one with it. Grasp the facts.

2. I love how you seem to ignore the key words of what i say. Bad Wolf is the puppet if you like of the Time Vortex, There is no more powerful that that. It simply doesn't happen.

3. Well they could, but would they do it without moving or doing anything?

1. A Big Bang is also the force of creation, Beyonder>that.

2. Based on...what? Your opinion?

3. I doubt it, but like any moderately powerful abstract could.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. A Big Bang is also the force of creation, Beyonder>that.

2. Based on...what? Your opinion?

3. I doubt it, but like any moderately powerful abstract could.

1. Not really, since scientists believe it to be natural, it's not the force of nature so much as an occurrence.

2. Based on the facts presented to us. The whole of Creation is under Bad Wolf's control. One last stab at making you understand because this is becoming overly troublesome.

Beyonder exists, He can destroy universes with a hard breathe. He can think away galaxies.

However, what it's crucial for you to understand, Beyonder is a part of creation. Anything a part of creation, is what Bad Wolf controls, as it is the force of will for the Time Vortex. If you are a part of creation, it is only possible for you to be weaker than Bad Wolf as you are a part of it.

Anything Beyonder can do, Bad Wolf can unwrite from existence. Anything Beyonder is, can be removed from existence. Any effect Beyonder can cause can be reversed. There is nothing Bad Wolf cannot do. It is the Time Vortex incarnate, it is Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent. It has total control over everything this is, everything that was, and everything that ever could be.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
1. Not really, since scientists believe it to be natural, it's not the force of nature so much as an occurrence.

2. Based on the facts presented to us. The whole of Creation is under Bad Wolf's control. One last stab at making you understand because this is becoming overly troublesome.

Beyonder exists, He can destroy universes with a hard breathe. He can think away galaxies.

However, what it's crucial for you to understand, Beyonder is a part of creation. Anything a part of creation, is what Bad Wolf controls, as it is the force of will for the Time Vortex. If you are a part of creation, it is only possible for you to be weaker than Bad Wolf as you are a part of it.

Anything Beyonder can do, Bad Wolf can unwrite from existence. Anything Beyonder is, can be removed from existence. Any effect Beyonder can cause can be reversed. There is nothing Bad Wolf cannot do. It is the Time Vortex incarnate, it is Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent. It has total control over everything this is, everything that was, and everything that ever could be.

2. You wanna know what I just realised? I can use your argument in the DN vs. Sephiroth thread against you to an extent. Beyonder is not part of the creation of the Dr. Whoverse, therefore, her jurisdiction does not extend to Beyonder.

Beyonder exists, BEYOND existence, that is the nature of his character.

Not part of Dr. Whoverse's creation. And Beyonder exists on a much higher level than Bad Wolf's whole universe.

Anything Bad Wolf can do, will not affect Beyonder as her jurisdiction does not reach him.🙂

Oh, and btw, Beyonder, WAS a supreme being.

this thread has gone on long enough !!!

i activate A-Sexual Reproduction and place my Kuribohs in Attack Mode

Bad Wolf prepare to be smothered by my giant hairy balls

[/end Abridged Joke]

crylaugh

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*life points go down to zero*

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
2. You wanna know what I just realised? I can use your argument in the DN vs. Sephiroth thread against you to an extent. Beyonder is not part of the creation of the Dr. Whoverse, therefore, her jurisdiction does not extend to Beyonder.

Beyonder exists, BEYOND existence, that is the nature of his character.

Not part of Dr. Whoverse's creation. And Beyonder exists on a much higher level than Bad Wolf's whole universe.

Anything Bad Wolf can do, will not affect Beyonder as her jurisdiction does not reach him.🙂

Oh, and btw, Beyonder, WAS a supreme being.

1. Wrong. Existance is anything. Beyonder is part of Existance creation whatever you call it. Point fails.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
crylaugh

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*life points go down to zero*

you triggered my -balls- as a secondary effect
my attack points are now -OVER NINE THOUOOOUUUUUUSSSSSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!-

which means -THE WHOLE UNIVERSE IS GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!-

Originally posted by EvilAngel
1. Wrong. Existance is anything. Beyonder is part of Existance creation whatever you call it. Point fails.
Not part of her existence. She has no jurisdiction over him. Oh, and that was just one point, even if that isn't the case Beyonder is more powerful.

Originally posted by 123KID
you triggered my -balls- as a secondary effect
my attack points are now -OVER NINE THOUOOOUUUUUUSSSSSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!-

which means -THE WHOLE UNIVERSE IS GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!-

YOU BEAT ME IN A CARD GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW I AM GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Not part of her existence. She has no jurisdiction over him. Oh, and that was just one point, even if that isn't the case Beyonder is more powerful.

Are you being intentionally dense?!

How could it be simpler????