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Started by 2damnloud7 pages
Originally posted by LordKaos
you tried to argue him using a machine before, but this is not about how powerful he is (as it wasn't before), it's about how ineffectual she was against the backlash. Why is one PIS and the other not when she only did that star crap once?

I Don't try to do anything, it's what was in the story.

He himself admitted his limits in that without that machine, all that energy was almost too much.

It was also the only time she wasn't able to stop a nuke.

It would be PIS for her not to be able to do it given all the other instances(which you like to negate) in which she's taken on MUCH more powerful forces of nature than a blast wave.

Like I've said, scientifically, ONE Thunderstorm= the energy of serveral hydrogen bombs.

To reconcile the fact that she's obviously being written down in the majority of her showings, you would say "she doesn't directly control that kind of power" all without giving any proof of your conclusion.

I have you pegged. 🙄

Once again missing the point you did try because no one is (was) arguing Magnetos power, the point was her winds were useless againt a storm that was caused by the deflection of nukes. When was the other time her powers stopped a nuke?

Originally posted by LordKaos
Once again missing the point you did try because no one is (was) arguing Magnetos power, the point was her winds were useless againt a storm that was caused by the deflection of nukes. When was the other time her powers stopped a nuke?

I'm not arguing his power either.

You negated her manipulating Stars by saying it was a one time deal. I said her not stopping a blast wave was also a one time deal. Which will we go with??

I will go with PIS since she has done much more massive things than that. Why not aknowledge that?? People fight at their best here.

I don't believe the panel said she even tried to use winds. 😕

Still, none of that matters because even if it were her winds, they have been shown to redirect Sienna Blaze's power which is like a Phoenix blast and can destroy planets.

Originally posted by Mindship
How about this one...

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Now that's a bit tougher.

So.....

Devil Machine! MAZINKAISER! 😄

Originally posted by 2damnloud
I'm not arguing his power either.

You negated her manipulating Stars by saying it was a one time deal. I said her not stopping a blast wave was also a one time deal. Which will we go with??

I will go with PIS since she has done much more massive things than that. Why not aknowledge that?? People fight at their best here.

I don't believe the panel said she even tried to use winds. 😕

Still, none of that matters because even if it were her winds, they have been shown to redirect Sienna Blaze's power which is like a Phoenix blast and can destroy planets.

Me saying her star thing was a one time deal was a response to you calling he inability to deflect the storm PIS.

Done more massive things than what? channel stars or fail to deflect a nuke induced storm?

It was her winds, what else could she use to deflect?

When could a blast of Sienna Blaze destroy planets, I thought it was the recklessness in which she just ripped power from the Earths EM field that threatened the planet whenever she used her power? Like a Phoenix blast?!? Which Phoenix blast would that be?

Storm dies.
If Storm can survive/pwn/laugh at a full blast from a 30 megaton bomb blast using her powers alone then Storm is > 75-80 of DC/Marvel heros and villans.

If thats the case then she should be able to defeat Superman by absorbing his energy ala Silver Surfer. Or just absorbing the Sun itself!

Say that she could deflect the shock wave traveling at 30mi per sec with her winds. Or that she could avoid the debris from tearing her frail body to shreds. How is she to survive the fireball of 50million degrees?!?!? Or will she siimply blow that out like a candle? 😉

Originally posted by Hitman911
Storm dies.
If Storm can survive/pwn/laugh at a full blast from a 30 megaton bomb blast using her powers alone then Storm is > 75-80 of DC/Marvel heros and villans.

If thats the case then she should be able to defeat Superman by absorbing his energy ala Silver Surfer. Or just absorbing the Sun itself!

Say that she could deflect the shock wave traveling at 30mi per sec with her winds. Or that she could avoid the debris from tearing her frail body to shreds. How is she to survive the fireball of 50million degrees?!?!? Or will she siimply blow that out like a candle? 😉

No she'll drop the temp 1,000,000,000,000,000 degrees below absolute zero and flash freeze the universe.
Oh I'm sorry where was my head I meant to say flash freeze the omniverse, shattering it with lightning and then absorbing all the kinetic energy from the shattering to break through the fourth wall to take her revenge on all who doubted her power as Creatrix of all the was, is and will ever be.

Originally posted by Hitman911
Storm dies.
If Storm can survive/pwn/laugh at a full blast from a 30 megaton bomb blast using her powers alone then Storm is > 75-80 of DC/Marvel heros and villans.

If thats the case then she should be able to defeat Superman by absorbing his energy ala Silver Surfer. Or just absorbing the Sun itself!

Say that she could deflect the shock wave traveling at 30mi per sec with her winds. Or that she could avoid the debris from tearing her frail body to shreds. How is she to survive the fireball of 50million degrees?!?!? Or will she siimply blow that out like a candle? 😉

First two statements are a fallacies.

Argue correctly. 🙄

It's all but stated as she is one of the most powerful beings on Marvel Earth. Whether you can comprehend that or not is inconsequential.

The nuke would most likely enhance her mutant powers.😬

Originally posted by LordKaos
No she'll drop the temp 1,000,000,000,000,000 degrees below absolute zero and flash freeze the universe.
Oh I'm sorry where was my head I meant to say flash freeze the omniverse, shattering it with lightning and then absorbing all the kinetic energy from the shattering to break through the fourth wall to take her revenge on all who doubted her power as Creatrix of all the was, is and will ever be.

No, she'd just block it or contain it.

😂 @ you thinkin all her powers are lgihtning and temp.

So dense.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
First two statements are a fallacies.

Argue correctly. 🙄

It's all but stated as she is one of the most powerful beings on Marvel Earth. Whether you can comprehend that or not is inconsequential.

The nuke would most likely enhance her mutant powers.😬


A lot of people are one of the most powerful on marvel earth. She don't get a trophy for that!! Why is her being able to defeat Kal by absorbing the sun a fallacy? Is it that it's so absurd you realize it's improbable?

Originally posted by Hitman911
A lot of people are one of the most powerful on marvel earth. She don't get a trophy for that!! Why is her being able to defeat Kal by absorbing the sun a fallacy? Is it that it's so absurd you realize it's improbable?

"One of the most". "THE MOST" sets that apart as amongst the most powerful.

No, your first two statements are based on this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denying_the_antecedent

And why would she absorb the sun which is intrical to life on this planet to kill one mere man!?!?!?!

A Nuclear explosion is not a natural thing therefore she would never have time to "feel" in before it wipes her out.

Originally posted by LordKaos
Me saying her star thing was a one time deal was a response to you calling he inability to deflect the storm PIS.

Done more massive things than what? channel stars or fail to deflect a nuke induced storm?

It was her winds, what else could she use to deflect?

When could a blast of Sienna Blaze destroy planets, I thought it was the recklessness in which she just ripped power from the Earths EM field that threatened the planet whenever she used her power? Like a Phoenix blast?!? Which Phoenix blast would that be?


Why the Ultra Earth Vaporizing Blast!! Silly 😛

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Originally posted by Hitman911
[B]BOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A Thirty Mega-ton Warhead explodes.
Who is the weakest that could survive this?!?!?!?
Oh yeah, that pic is what a 10 megaton warhead whould do. [/B]
Logan?!?!?

Originally posted by 2damnloud

The nuke would most likely enhance her(Storm) mutant powers.😬

😆 😂

laugh if that makes you feel better.ermmhappy

Storm is a character who can absorb millions upon millions of SUNS into her body.

She can use a gamma gun to enhace her powers.

http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marvelsuperheroesv308p1xz3.jpg
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Whats going to harm her?? The blast wave??😂

She controls WEATHER. She flies at/creates winds that are hundreds upon hundreds of mph and is unaffected because she controls wind/air which is a derivative or pressure differentials.

Nothing about the nuke would harm her.😬

Originally posted by 2damnloud
laugh if that makes you feel better.ermmhappy

Storm is a character who can absorb millions upon millions of SUNS into her body.

She can use a gamma gun to enhace her powers.

http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marvelsuperheroesv308p1xz3.jpg
http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marvelsuperheroesv308p1jr0.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marvelsuperheroesv308p1rv5.jpg

Whats going to harm her?? The blast wave??😂

She controls WEATHER. She flies at hundreds of mph and is unaffected because she controls wind/air which is a derivative or pressure differentials.

Nothing about the nuke would harm her.😬

Can I have some of what you are drinking? That is some guuuuud shit. Cuz you are obsviouly wasted.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Can I have some of what you are drinking? That is some guuuuud shit. Cuz you are obsviouly wasted.

😂 @ this yutz.

go finished getting pwned with your shit logic, whilst I have SCANS to back up what I say.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
I Don't try to do anything, it's what was in the story.

He himself admitted his limits in that without that machine, all that energy was almost too much.

It was also the only time she wasn't able to stop a nuke.

It would be PIS for her not to be able to do it given all the other instances(which you like to negate) in which she's taken on MUCH more powerful forces of nature than a blast wave.

Like I've said, scientifically, ONE Thunderstorm= the energy of serveral hydrogen bombs.

To reconcile the fact that she's obviously being written down in the majority of her showings, you would say "she doesn't directly control that kind of power" all without giving any proof of your conclusion.

I have you pegged. 🙄

Well, I can see your point about a thunderstorm having the energy of a thermonuclear detonation. I see where you are coming from.

The problem is that you are talking about potential energy ....for instance, a human being (one human) if his mass was converted into energy could power an average sized city (never did say how large an 'average sized city' was, but one can assume it is not exactly one Bangladeshi village) for a while. A piece of toast has more energy than a car moving at 30mph.

Anyways, potential energy is different from actual energy.

The splitting of an atom (for fission), or the fusion of atoms (fusion) detonations are incredulously powerful.

Take Hurricane Katrina ....that hurricane had more than enough energy than many many Hiroshima sized explosions, and you saw what it did to N.O. Ravaged that city big time.

However, even with that said, imagine if i had set off 4 Hiroshima size fission devices (rather small and simple 'gun' atomic weapons that are quite weak compared to the thermonuclear types available today). The amount of damage wrought on NO would be stupendous, even though Katrina packed a greater energy (potential and dynamic) than the atomics. The released yield (which is the crucial thing) from the atomics would simply reduce the city to rubble for the most part.... (it is all about released yield ....for instance, a small shaped HEAT charge will mess up a tank when a simple H-E charge 5 times its size will not penetrate the armor).

It is also the reason why the US Military was pushing for small thermonuclear bombs to be used as ways of bombing deeply buried sites (e.g. the North Korean and Iranian bunkers that are buried deep within the earth in the case of the Iranians, or in mountains for the NKs, that are impervious to non-nuclear penetrators). A small nuke would cause so much energy in that area that the level of overpressure would simply cause the entire complex to collapse on itself.

On the other hand, you could have a thousand Katrina size hurricanes pound the mountains above the North Korean complex, and the N.Ks in the bases underneath the mountains would not feel a thing. They wouldn't even know hurricanes were above them. Yet, on PAPER, the Hurricanes pack more energy than the nuclear bunker-buster (the project was 'reportedly' cancelled last year, but I find that hard to believe because the Us military would get rid of the only effective weapon they have to reach bunkers buried in mountain complexes, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Israelis also have something similar).

Anyways, the potential and dynamic energies in a lot of natural phenomena can be astounding. For instance many tornados above F1 (the old Fujita scale ....I'm not yet conversant with the new scale) have numbers that are above a good many thermonuclear weapons.

However, have that tornado go through Oklahoma city and see what happens (if it is an F5 like the one that went through OK in 1999, and it goes through OKC instead of through the small towns and settlements, it would cause all the glass to shatter, would cause severe damage to several skyscrapers, and overall set back the budget of the State of Oklahoma, and the Federal Government, sveeral billions when it comes to rebuilding). And an F5 would have more potential and dynamic enerugy than many thermonuclear devices (i am talking real fusion devices and not rudimentary gun-type fission devices like the Hiroshima bomb)

Thus, it would do damage.

Now, what would happen if i put ONE 10 Kiloton device in OKC, and have it detonate a thousand feet in the air?

OKC would be totally finished!

Its yield may (looking at only numbers) be 'less' than that of a F-5 tornado, but its effect (which is the important thing) would be many times greater. Great enough that (unlike the Tornado) there would be nothing for the OK State and the Fed to rebuild.

Hulk survives it.
Surfer too.