Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Thanks for reminding me of this thread BT. Now I can continue to spank your Kain wanking fanboy ass.1. Or Pyron just uses his superior thinking speed, movement speed, reaction speed, pretty much any kinda speed you can think of, you throw Kain out of orbit. Has Kain ever casted two spells at once? Don't just assume he can. Jedah has a strong mind, you need one to even exist in Makai, and his soul is immortal, as is he.
2. Really? He won't enter Jedah's soul, Jedah's soul>Kain's. Jedah ate billion's of souls over a vast distance in a short amount of time...yet it takes a long time to eat a soul right in front of him? You're sense of logic is frickin amazing. He stored the souls in his own body, then put them in the Shintai, and in battle he can eat souls which is a finisher in gameplay. Please give me a good reason why he could not cast two spells at once? or in quick succession, first TK is not a spell so if i say he uses TK and a spell its viable, also he is not quite casting two spells, he could use a reaver since its a reaver cast, and his own...why if he can cast spells with one hand, can he not cast a spell in each?
I don't think you know one of the rules about vs. matches, all combatants get basic knowledge of the opponent's powers. Demitri won't attack the shielded Kain. Also, Jedah just rips his soul out thru the bubbles, end of fight. I will have to find a vid of the tele.
Nope, Jedah's soul>Kain's. Also, Kain projecting his soul out of his body just makes it easier to eat.
3. He took billions in a short amount of time. Phail. He can take more souls than Kain, and can do it faster. Also, it turns out CC was full of shit.
oh w8. you spakned me in a thread? bring it up, haha, youve never won a thread against me....maybe not even a post, altho thats prob going too far but still
1. whats making you assume Pyron has faster thought? because he can pre-cog the future of a planet, thats not quick thought at all, no proof of it. Reaction speed? when......show please 🙂 , furthermore...show me
2. ahahaha, funny old V2D, new years spirit i spose, no he wont enter it, hell punt it out and replace it completly, Jedahs soul>kains? show me him resisting soul destroying moves like kain can use, or having his soul sent out of him. You misunderstood, it takes Jedah to raise his hand to take souls, i did not intend to say it would take him longer to take kains soul
3. what BS is this? i thought you came here to beat me in this thread, not to make me laugh, but i suppose its new years, i like your sense of humour but simply because he knows moves, doesnt mean he can stop them all, or infact avoid them all, kain can have that shield up in a heartbeat, Demitri can just as easily touch this shield, and theres nothing he can do to save his skin when kain (inside Jedah) starts ripping him apart
no because he doesnt project until after punting Jedahs soul out, the projecting is just so he will possess Jedah and own the other 2 faster than he would useing his own powers
3. CC? no he cannot do it faster, they both do it with a raise of their hand, in BO1 kains eyes go green and the opponent gets possesed is the way i remember it, so that could be faster than Jedah since Jedah raises his arm ,either way...their both the same
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
BT, wtf is your problem? I've tried being civil with you, but then you go and bump this thread to bait me.
problem? not at all, baiting? wtf.......who said i even talking to you, who said i was talking to anyone when i bumped this thread, i was opening it again to debate this thing....i have every right to, if i want to debate it...if you dont want to then leave, you have every right to leave
also Furion, please debate, dont troll
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
And he says I overhype Pyron! haermmAnd then notice how he goes on an emo hissyfit over admitting LT is stronger than Kain.
haha, what? you bring up a bad post a year ago, if i can be bothered i can bring up that image where you think Pyron is the size of the Adromeda galaxy!! because of the background image, and maybe even the thing DK made with MC in a similiar background to prove your foolery
i can claim ignorence and being new to the forum as well as not knowing the character, what can you claim V2D? simply foolery on its own? haha, but nah, ur rite, Pyronz bigzor az Galaxies!!
Originally posted by Furion
YAY! He's back! hug
Even if Jedah somehow got possessed by Kain, Midnight Bliss FTW. But since he's Vampire Savior can't destroy his soul.
YARRG I'M A TROLL!
no but you see Midnight bliss is physical AND magical in nature, which kains shield which comes up as he possesses an opponent protects against 😛
lol.....a trol is a....ah forget it YAARGG back at you!! 😛 😉
Originally posted by Furion
But Kain can't possess Jedah anyway because Jedah is the Vampire Savior so Soul coudn't be destroyed or possessed.
his soul will be neither....
it wil just be punted out, so hell be perfectly alive..only as a soul, so to speak and lilely afterwards when kain bothers a soul trapped but alive in the reaver
kain will possess the body of Jedah, and ofc, Jedah can >>>Demitri and Pyron
Originally posted by Burning thoughtOh please, you're the laughingstock of not one, but two forums. You have made some of the most biased and retarded claims I have seen. I can name alot of them, like Kain TKing the LT, or Kain reducing Pyron to a molecule of energy with "boundless energy manipulation".
oh w8. you spakned me in a thread? bring it up, haha, youve never won a thread against me....maybe not even a post, altho thats prob going too far but still1. whats making you assume Pyron has faster thought? because he can pre-cog the future of a planet, thats not quick thought at all, no proof of it. Reaction speed? when......show please 🙂 , furthermore...show me
2. ahahaha, funny old V2D, new years spirit i spose, no he wont enter it, hell punt it out and replace it completly, Jedahs soul>kains? show me him resisting soul destroying moves like kain can use, or having his soul sent out of him. You misunderstood, it takes Jedah to raise his hand to take souls, i did not intend to say it would take him longer to take kains soul
3. what BS is this? i thought you came here to beat me in this thread, not to make me laugh, but i suppose its new years, i like your sense of humour but simply because he knows moves, doesnt mean he can stop them all, or infact avoid them all, kain can have that shield up in a heartbeat, Demitri can just as easily touch this shield, and theres nothing he can do to save his skin when kain (inside Jedah) starts ripping him apart
no because he doesnt project until after punting Jedahs soul out, the projecting is just so he will possess Jedah and own the other 2 faster than he would useing his own powers
3. CC? no he cannot do it faster, they both do it with a raise of their hand, in BO1 kains eyes go green and the opponent gets possesed is the way i remember it, so that could be faster than Jedah since Jedah raises his arm ,either way...their both the same
problem? not at all, baiting? wtf.......who said i even talking to you, who said i was talking to anyone when i bumped this thread, i was opening it again to debate this thing....i have every right to, if i want to debate it...if you dont want to then leave, you have every right to leave
also Furion, please debate, dont troll
haha, what? you bring up a bad post a year ago, if i can be bothered i can bring up that image where you think Pyron is the size of the Adromeda galaxy!! because of the background image, and maybe even the thing DK made with MC in a similiar background to prove your foolery
i can claim ignorence and being new to the forum as well as not knowing the character, what can you claim V2D? simply foolery on its own? haha, but nah, ur rite, Pyronz bigzor az Galaxies!!
1. Pyron scanned an entire planet in moments. Show me Kain having thought speed near that. You can't, he doesn't have it. Pyron has cosmic awareness, which allows him to see and think at a much faster and more advanced way. Kain's thinking process doesn't even compare. Reaction speed? Hell, even in the OVA Pyron's reaction speed>Kain's, like when he leaped over Donavan's blast that was fired from point blank range. In terms of speed, Pyron beats Kain in every way.
2. He has an immortal soul which can't be sent to the afterlife, yeah I'd say it>Kain's. Jedah could also just, you know, tele to another dimension and quickly eat his soul from there(he can handle souls across dimensions).
3. Oh, so now Kain is gonna play the waiting game and try to time putting his shield up to deflect MB when Demitri trys it? Right...Jedah just eats his soul start of match. All three are gonna be fighting him, he will be blown to bits by Pyron or MBed by Demitri if he doesn't get the shield up in time, and once it is up Jedah will easily just rip his soul out. Oh and I call bullshit, you always said that Spirit Death just blows a soul out of the body, apparently it's a projectile.
Now that I think about it...why can't they just dodge him once he projects out? Jedah can go in a different dimension, Pyron can leave orbit, and Demitri...well Demitri could go fvck himself for all I care because while Kain either is a helpless soul or is possessing Demitri(who could still just tele away prolly) Pyron would be vaping the planet. So now Kain is just a helpless soul in space, crying for his long dead mommy-poo, until he gets absorbed by Jedah, who is laughing his ass off at Kain in the Majigen.
4. CC was full of shit on what he said. Jedah ate over 30 billion souls in seconds...take the amount of seconds and divide it by 30 billion...that gives you a rough idea of how long it would take Jedah to take a single soul...
Oh bullshit, you came here saying bullshit like,"Looks like everyone conceded, Kain takes the win over these three overhyped supposed ubers" or sumthin like that.
Okay, I have more. You think Kain can beat Galactus, you said he would give Odin a run for his money, you said he could use "boundless energy manip" to reduce Pyron to a speck, and that's just off the top of my head.
You came into a thread with no knowledge of the character, and still said Kain is stronger. Wtf does being new to the forum have to do with anything? When I was new I didn't just say Ganondorf or Pyron could beat so-and-so with no knowledge on the character. Oh wait I forgot,"H3 u535 UB3r 7K 70 h0LD 17 1n p1AC3 F7W!!!"
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Oh please, you're the laughingstock of not one, but two forums. You have made some of the most biased and retarded claims I have seen. I can name alot of them, like Kain TKing the LT, or Kain reducing Pyron to a molecule of energy with "boundless energy manipulation".1. Pyron scanned an entire planet in moments. Show me Kain having thought speed near that. You can't, he doesn't have it. Pyron has cosmic awareness, which allows him to see and think at a much faster and more advanced way. Kain's thinking process doesn't even compare. Reaction speed? Hell, even in the OVA Pyron's reaction speed>Kain's, like when he leaped over Donavan's blast that was fired from point blank range. In terms of speed, Pyron beats Kain in every way.
2. He has an immortal soul which can't be sent to the afterlife, yeah I'd say it>Kain's. Jedah could also just, you know, tele to another dimension and quickly eat his soul from there(he can handle souls across dimensions).
3. Oh, so now Kain is gonna play the waiting game and try to time putting his shield up to deflect MB when Demitri trys it? Right...Jedah just eats his soul start of match. All three are gonna be fighting him, he will be blown to bits by Pyron or MBed by Demitri if he doesn't get the shield up in time, and once it is up Jedah will easily just rip his soul out. Oh and I call bullshit, you always said that Spirit Death just blows a soul out of the body, apparently it's a projectile.
Now that I think about it...why can't they just dodge him once he projects out? Jedah can go in a different dimension, Pyron can leave orbit, and Demitri...well Demitri could go fvck himself for all I care because while Kain either is a helpless soul or is possessing Demitri(who could still just tele away prolly) Pyron would be vaping the planet. So now Kain is just a helpless soul in space, crying for his long dead mommy-poo, until he gets absorbed by Jedah, who is laughing his ass off at Kain in the Majigen.
4. CC was full of shit on what he said. Jedah ate over 30 billion souls in seconds...take the amount of seconds and divide it by 30 billion...that gives you a rough idea of how long it would take Jedah to take a single soul...
Oh bullshit, you came here saying bullshit like,"Looks like everyone conceded, Kain takes the win over these three overhyped supposed ubers" or sumthin like that.
Okay, I have more. You think Kain can beat Galactus, you said he would give Odin a run for his money, you said he could use "boundless energy manip" to reduce Pyron to a speck, and that's just off the top of my head.
You came into a thread with no knowledge of the character, and still said Kain is stronger. Wtf does being new to the forum have to do with anything? When I was new I didn't just say Ganondorf or Pyron could beat so-and-so with no knowledge on the character. Oh wait I forgot,"H3 u535 UB3r 7K 70 h0LD 17 1n p1AC3 F7W!!!"
well sure, in theory he could even though hes never done it, since he has the power over the concept of energy, theres no more truth or lie to my statement
1. he pre-cogged (no mind speed feat) the planets future, and hes the size of a planet in most of those scans, sometimes larger, he could see the whole planet...its quite the advantage when regarding an area. Cosmic awareness, id like to see an official statement saying he has this, not assumptions. His speed eventulaly means nothing, Pyron has nothing that will kill kain, also more importantly, his slow momentum build up is not quite lightspeed, even after his quick thought and start of his speed buildup, theres no way hes going to stop kain from twiddling his finger, if he even has to do that, infact ime not sure, i need Madmel to see if he remembers it, but i think in Bo1 he may not have to make a hand movement to call his shield
2. Kains soul is immortal and cannot be sent to the afterlife either.....ive not seen Jedah tele, so id like to see how "quickly" he does it, also kain could still put his shield up or Tele to Nosgoth or sepctoral dimension himself
3. BS, you keep saying this rubbish, Jedah just eats his soul, no proof V2D, ime sorry but you have no proof Jedah is going to move his whole arm up in a faster time than kain is going to move his finger/whim his shield into place. As soon as that shield goes up, that means light out for Jedah because its likely kain is doing his soul wreck i think its called and punted Jedahs immortal soul out, occupied Jedah and then uses the vessel to destroy the other 2 with ease, spirit death? is it, can i see what states it as being a projectile, also is it soul wrack or spirit death thats a projectile? i dont remember Soul wrack or whatever the possession move is called that takes the soul, which is the one hes going to be doing.
what? Kain would soul punt jedahs soul right out of him, this is done quickly, you would have to take my word that its basically on a whim, all he does is have his eyes glow and a repel shield comes around him, i cannot show it coz its Blood omen 1, no vids also dodge a soul? Souls in LOK at least dont have speed, at least kains does not, it doesnt move towards it, it just seems to be inside the target, if it moves it must be incredibly quick. Pyron would be>>>by Jedah and why is pyron destoriyng the planet your only way of Pyron doing anything, how will this affect kain, kain would just Dimension move....its no big deal not being on a planet also this would be a mistake because if hes going after a planet, hes not concetrating on kain
4. no thats failed logic, you have no way of being able to say simply because he takes 30 billion quickly, it takes less to take one soul, just because Raziel can take many souls, it takes the same for raziel to take one, and thats one example of fiction
that was bating someone to debate with me, i wanted to debate, can you think of a better way of getting someone?, it doesn matter who it was, although since you left it hanging, i am grateful you now answered me 😄
no i dont, how can kain beat Galactus, if i said it, i was prob joking, Odin, Odin is not a true immortal and his base strength is merely 60 tonnes, and his skin at base is weak....not to menstion he has only destructive feats, most of which seem to me useless against kain, apprently even his Galaxy busting feats were because of anotherb eing as well and not simply him
being new to the forum means its been a year since thats happened, i may not have known the rules as well, i was probably also simply getting into debates and not debating too ferociously or seriously, i think maybe then i was a proper fanboy and thought kain would win through any odds
Dont even compare Kain to Odin, ur just proving ur fanboyism some more
apprently even his Galaxy busting feats were because of anotherb eing as well and not simply him
Base strength at 60, yeah maybe when hes sleeping but when hes fighting its pretty much boundless
Odin would tear Kain apart molecule by molecule
Originally posted by Terryc250
Dont even compare Kain to Odin, ur just proving ur fanboyism some moreHuh? He was fighting another skyfather, and they were destroying lots of galaxies, with their OWN power.
Base strength at 60, yeah maybe when hes sleeping but when hes fighting its pretty much boundless
Odin would tear Kain apart molecule by molecule
no your proving your foolery more and more as well as ignorence and probably hundreds of other things by not knowing who kain is or barely any of his powers which you have proved so many times already and furthermore, stating things like this
huh? why do you say that.....i said it exactley as you said it, it was another being as wel, can some one show the scan? i also heard they were both holding an item that was increasing their power
base strength according to the marvel site is 60 tonne, thats about it, and his body is only 3x more denser than a human
will he? how so, with what? Odin cannot kill kain,so eventually kain will beat Odin or it will be stalemate or kain goes to another dimension
Originally posted by Burning thought
no your proving your foolery more and more as well as ignorence and probably hundreds of other things by not knowing who kain is or barely any of his powers which you have proved so many times already and furthermore, stating things like thishuh? why do you say that.....i said it exactley as you said it, it was another being as wel, can some one show the scan? i also heard they were both holding an item that was increasing their power
base strength according to the marvel site is 60 tonne, thats about it, and his body is only 3x more denser than a human
will he? how so, with what? Odin cannot kill kain,so eventually kain will beat Odin or it will be stalemate or kain goes to another dimension
He was fighting Seth, a person who was weaker then him, and they both easily destroyed galaxies. No they werent holding any item, they were using their own powers.
Odin augments his strength to insane levels, he can grow to the size of planets if he wants.
Odin can EASILY neutrilize Kain for the win.