Rethpext Kyo Kusanagi (Respect)

There's the only one valid support of replacement- we know that Kyo who got killed in the beginning of KOF2003 manhua isn't the real one but a clone created by NESTS. Anything else remains speculation (though G-Mantle has revealed himself like half way through KOF2001 series).

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
There's the only one valid support of replacement- we know that Kyo who got killed in the beginning of KOF2003 manhua isn't the real one but a clone created by NESTS. Anything else remains speculation (though G-Mantle has revealed himself like half way through KOF2001 series).

True, from the scans I saw in K's RT, the Kyo he fought was ofcourse a copy b/c the copy's still in the school duds (eventhough Kyo left school already)

I'd really love to know this half-baked story the manhua people wrote though....utterly weird.

I'll post the scans of that fight in English once I find them in better quality than I have (mine are secondary translation with Indonesian as proxy language: Chinese-Indonesian-English- enough not to ask Anna for translation, but not too good in terms of quality to post them in the RT).

Also two more issues of KOF2003 manhua are to be released in February. From preview to the chapter 5(6?-numeration is weird, they counted two first issues as one) K' is going to face something scary from his NESTS past and PWN Athena...again. While Terry Bogard is getting asskicking from Ash "Ass" Crimson&gang.

Originally posted by Sado22
SNK coolest heroes:
-Terry Bogard. original from head to toe.

Originally posted by Sado22
introduced the hero with a life.

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and the first hero to wear normal clothes.

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he wins tournies, plays videogames and basket ball and has a girl

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unlike certain eunuchs who can't win a tournament despite training their whole life.

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-K Dash. no question about it. good character,

Originally posted by Sado22
original from all angles

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and a badass array of moves. some of the coolest moves in 2D history.

Originally posted by Sado22
-Kyo Kusanagi. took him a while to develop, but once he did, there was no turning back.

Originally posted by Sado22
hands down the coolest punches ever made, cool persaonality and toasting his opponents.......pure badassery. KoF aint KoF without "The Rich Man's Son of Flames". oh, and kyo started to kickass from KoF96 onwards.

Originally posted by Sado22
SNK coolest characters:
-Iori Yagami. RESPECT!!!

Originally posted by Sado22
-Terry Bogard.

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-Geese Howard. the original badass mafia boss of the SNK universe. defines badass in all ways

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and doesn't run away from underaged girls.

Originally posted by Sado22
SNK Coolest side characters:
-Shen Woo. hands down the coolest character by SNK. original and pure badass brawler. FINALLY a brawler who brawls. RESPECT

~Sado

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Also two more issues of KOF2003 manhua are to be released in February. From preview to the chapter 5(6?-numeration is weird, they counted two first issues as one) K' is going to face something scary from his NESTS past and PWN Athena...again. While Terry Bogard is getting asskicking from Ash "Ass" Crimson&gang.

man, P-G's not gonna like that last part.... 😛 We can't let our heroes lose to man-girls like Ash. [Really, it's all we've got.]

Wouldn't consider them normal.

That he seems to NOT be tappin'

Cuz the eunuch fights cats who are there for more than just resume' padding for the eunuch. It's easy to win when your opponents are just there to lose

No. I like him, but he's nearly a clone. Terry's more original & so is Kyo

That's what Frank says 'bout Terry. Kyo's design was cool from day 1.

From creation onwards

Nah. Getting beat up often does not define badass. He could have been, but those FF idiots ruined it.............

compare that to:
-pwning highter Ryo in his own game and losing after being stupid. he was single handedly beating him perfect. Was sagat beating ryu perfect? no. Geese at the same age as Ryo was pwning him up perfect. Sagat goes around and can't even put Ryu down perfect despite being way older than him. shame. Geese was 26 at the time and Ryo was 25.

-killing Jeff Bogard, the strongest fighter of all time and father of Terry Bogard. comapre that to.....killing Dan's father ( 😆 ) who even took out his eye. shame, shame.

-hasn't run away from little girls since his creation. unlike Bison who is godtier and can't beat girls who are lowtiers.........heck he ran away despite having the whole earth as his backup. face it dude....bison is the biggest pvssy made.

Nah, just gets whisked away from Ryu wannabees who were't cool enough to carry a game franchise.

those girls woulda kicked Geese ass so bad he wouldn't have been able to WALK(much less run) away.

Badass is as badass does. Geese unfortunately stopped being badass after he killed Jeff. Ain't done nuthin' but lose since. NOT badass!

laugh clown laugh!

Not a fan. Did Steve Fox appear 1st

First of all, K' isn't a clone really. Just infused with the Kusanagi pyrokinesis. He was made to think he was a clone, that's all. So "merely a clone"=an insult to our whitehaired Beast of Prey.

Originally posted by Sado22
relatively speaking mane. you have to compare terry's clothes to chunli, ken, ryu, akuma, bison, sagat, andy, geese, joe, vega...................so yeha, its normal.

its debatable. mary was wrapped around his finger for 10 years, dude. they don't need to have kids to proove that they were banging each other. Terry practices safe sex 😆

we could do this all day.
terry is toptier in his series and acts like it. ryu is toptier, but never acts like it. period.

dude, if K' was a clone of Kyo in SF, he'd be wearing the same clothes and doing the same moves. and if Capcom felt like putting work into it, they'd give him one new move. that's it.
K' not only does NOT look like Kyo but also has tottally different moves.
so...you're wrong.

Frank who? frank yagami?
don't put me in the same league as that no-good capcom fanboy 😠

well...kyo looked lame in KoF94 and KoF95. and his moves were to staple. a projectiles, a kick and a antiair hit. Come KoF96 and they redid him into the coolest puncher of all times.

about as good as Bison and Sagat put together.
Bison gets busted open by Rose (a 3rd tier), raped by lowtier dolls and does uberjobbing to ryu's shoryuken.
Sagat gets busted open by his disciple (i don't care if he hospitalized him cuz he still lost), gets pwned by ryu after being stupid and has been doing nothing ever since.

compare that to:
-pwning highter Ryo in his own game and losing after being stupid. he was single handedly beating him perfect. Was sagat beating ryu perfect? no. Geese at the same age as Ryo was pwning him up perfect. Sagat goes around and can't even put Ryu down perfect despite being way older than him. shame. Geese was 26 at the time and Ryo was 25.

-killing Jeff Bogard, the strongest fighter of all time and father of Terry Bogard. comapre that to.....killing Dan's father ( 😆 ) who even took out his eye. shame, shame.

-hasn't run away from little girls since his creation. unlike Bison who is godtier and can't beat girls who are lowtiers.........heck he ran away despite having the whole earth as his backup. face it dude....bison is the biggest pvssy made.

to you maybe. the fact that AoF was made into an anime and its anthologies are being sold till today, says otherwise.
and he was being stupid....ala sagat. funny how it doesn't matter so much in fagat's case but it does in Geese. not cool.

proof?

what has sagat done since killing Dan's father?
what has bison done since....ever?
all these two have been doing is getting pwned. heck, bison came in SF2 got pwned and killed only to have a prequel made on him to show how he got blown to bits and raped open by 3rd tier Rose in ONE ON ONE combat.
😆

laugh clown laugh!

steve did...but shen woo aint no steve ripoff.
i don't even know how that goes around.
Shen brawler, Steve boxer
the only similarity they have is that they both have spiked blonde hair.
and if wearing an open shirt with pants is ripoff then Steve Fox is the biggest Bruce Willis wannabe in the world! 😆

Originally posted by brainchild81
Doubtful. Kyo(unlike Terry) has reached a certain level of cool to the point that a character can be stronger than him w/out it lowering his cool points. He's probably SNK's 3rd coolest hero

1. Rock(He throws his f*ckin' jacket on your f*ckin' face mane)
Haohmaru(Galford's cooler but not the hero)
Kyo(took the spotlight from a ripoff & a glory hog who held back everybody in his series & he sets muthafvckas on fire)

It's no secret that even after all these years that the rivalry between Kyo and Iori is still the main rivalry. Kyo's the hero and Iori's sorta the badguy...KOF always has the good guy prevail but it's not just that, Kyo has shown serious potential, he's done some things that Iori hasn't. Kyo is a bit of a slacker but when he puts his mind to it he can be a beast. I think that if Kyo puts his mind to it he can be equal to Iori, like the KOF 98 intro, they seemed pretty even.

1.Galford and Haomaru are pretty cool...hell, 90% of the SS characters are cool, but I do not dig Rock, yo...not at all.

2.Both Kyo and Terry are cool but Terry is a cool fighter, Kyo is cool all around. He's like the type of dude you wanna hang wit.

Kyo would be my smokein buddy...he'd be real handy when there isn't a lighter around.

Quoted for truth.

Charlotte DeBel First of all, K' isn't a clone really. Just infused with the Kusanagi pyrokinesis. He was made to think he was a clone, that's all. So "merely a clone"=an insult to our whitehaired Beast of Prey.

It's no secret that even after all these years that the rivalry between Kyo and Iori is still the main rivalry. Kyo's the hero and Iori's sorta the badguy...KOF always has the good guy prevail but it's not just that, Kyo has shown serious potential, he's done some things that Iori hasn't. Kyo is a bit of a slacker but when he puts his mind to it he can be a beast. I think that if Kyo puts his mind to it he can be equal to Iori, like the KOF 98 intro, they seemed pretty even.

i remember the intro by heart!

-kyo rushes forward and does a punch (that iori probably blocked since he was standing there looking at him run up to him. Iori isn't ryu)
-Iori does a flaming slash that Kyo blocks
-Iori kicks Kyo several feet away
-Kyo gets up does jump kick, that Iori dodges
-Kyo does uppercut that Iori simply grabs without effort
-Kyo reels back
-Iori does a jump kick, Kyo counters with a shoulder charge (kyo's FIRST hit)
-he follows up with a redkick that Iori obviously dodged.
-Iori reels back from an attack
-Kyo does kick, Iori ducks, does a shoulder charge
-Iori punches kyo in the face and does the negative crescent moon
-Iori gloats
-Kyo reels from another attack
-Iori does a gloating, lazy, overconfident kick
-gets punched in the face for being a dumbass
-Kyo gloats
-Iori loses cool and throws a few wild punches that Kyo avoids
-Kyo does an elbow, and punches Iori in the face (notice how the only time he actuially gets in a two straight shots is when Iori lost his cool for a bit. till then Kyo didn't land TWO successive shots on the guy)
-Kyo throws a big right, Iori dodges and gives him the HARDEST TWO SHOTS OF THE ENTIRE CLIP
-Kyo catches Iori off guard with a surprise kick
-big charge and the ram into each other with the projectiles.

so tell me........how in the world are they even when Iori landed most of the hits, all the major hits were also his AND most of the clips opened with Kyo reeling from an attack? get real mang.

then we have the KoFOX comics ad made by SNK which also has Iori with a steady lead. heck the damn clip opens with Kyo kneeling on the ground panting while Iori is gloating at him to get up. Iori isn't even phased. once again the only good shot kyo gets is when Iori winds up letting his guards down.

~Sado

then those things end with the two about to attack each other, and we don't see a decisive winner. Though, there is a pic out there showing Iori about to deliver the final blow to a bloodied Kyo. But I won't get to that, cause this is a respect thread.

really? for the KoF98 one or the KoFOX one?

Originally posted by Sado22
relatively speaking mane. you have to compare terry's clothes to chunli, ken, ryu, akuma, bison, sagat, andy, geese, joe, vega...................so yeha, its normal.
[QUOTE=9954945]Originally posted by Sado22
[B]its debatable. mary was wrapped around his finger for 10 years, dude. they don't need to have kids to proove that they were banging each other. Terry practices safe sex 😆 we could do this all day.
terry is toptier in his series and acts like it. ryu is toptier, but never acts like it. period.

Originally posted by Sado22
dude, if K' was a clone of Kyo in SF, he'd be wearing the same clothes and doing the same moves. and if Capcom felt like putting work into it, they'd give him one new move. that's it.
K' not only does NOT look like Kyo but also has tottally different moves.
so...you're wrong.

Originally posted by Sado22
Frank who? frank yagami?
don't put me in the same league as that no-good capcom fanboy 😠

well...kyo looked lame in KoF94 and KoF95. and his moves were to staple. a projectiles, a kick and a antiair hit. Come KoF96 and they redid him into the coolest puncher of all times.

about as good as Bison and Sagat put together.
Bison gets busted open by Rose (a 3rd tier), raped by lowtier dolls and does uberjobbing to ryu's shoryuken.
Sagat gets busted open by his disciple (i don't care if he hospitalized him cuz he still lost), gets pwned by ryu after being stupid and has been doing nothing ever since.

compare that to:
-pwning highter Ryo in his own game and losing after being stupid. he was single handedly beating him perfect. Was sagat beating ryu perfect? no. Geese at the same age as Ryo was pwning him up perfect. Sagat goes around and can't even put Ryu down perfect despite being way older than him. shame. Geese was 26 at the time and Ryo was 25.

Originally posted by Sado22
-killing Jeff Bogard, the strongest fighter of all time and father of Terry Bogard. comapre that to.....killing Dan's father ( 😆 ) who even took out his eye. shame, shame.

-hasn't run away from little girls since his creation. unlike Bison who is godtier and can't beat girls who are lowtiers.........heck he ran away despite having the whole earth as his backup. face it dude....bison is the biggest pvssy made.

to you maybe. the fact that AoF was made into an anime and its anthologies are being sold till today, says otherwise.

Originally posted by Sado22
and he was being stupid....ala sagat. funny how it doesn't matter so much in fagat's case but it does in Geese. not cool.

Originally posted by Sado22
proof?

what has sagat done since killing Dan's father?
what has bison done since....ever?
all these two have been doing is getting pwned. heck, bison came in SF2 got pwned and killed only to have a prequel made on him to show how he got blown to bits and raped open by 3rd tier Rose in ONE ON ONE combat.
😆

Originally posted by Sado22
steve did...but shen woo aint no steve ripoff.
i don't even know how that goes around.
Shen brawler, Steve boxer
the only similarity they have is that they both have spiked blonde hair.
and if wearing an open shirt with pants is ripoff then Steve Fox is the biggest Bruce Willis wannabe in the world! 😆

Originally posted by Sado22
really? for the KoF98 one or the KoFOX one?

nah, some random KoF art thing.

I love all this debating.

Bull. Ryu ain't toptier 1st of all.

Ryu ain't beating them 'cuz they ARE toptier & they act like it(unlike the cats Terry faces) Terry can act toptier all day & half the night, but it don't mean shit until his opponents do(Geese, Krauser step up please).

the rest of the FF cast just fill slots.

and here you are cribbing about terry reaching semi's in rock's game 😆

Ryu's fighting real fighters.

so lets analyze this:
-adon, a screaming queer who hasn't done jackshit since day one. the most he's done is take on beaten, unfocused sagat and get hospitalized for his troubles
-geki............who?
-sagat, got pwned and won by being a cheapshit
-ken, someone who hardly trains as much as he does and is a tier below him and STILL gets pwned. oh but he was unfocused...yeah.
-sakura...took a dive. well that's what they want us to believe.
-akuma...............the ONLY REAL fight he is supposed to have only akuma wasnot going all out.
-sagat...............gets uber power boost from bison and still loses like a little b!tch.
-ken....like i said before
-Hugo..........a generic boss from FF who Cody/guy/haggar pwned to shameful levels.
-oro..............gets pwned. again, oro wasn't even serious.
-ken...finally manages to beat him
-Sean....finally another victory to add to his pussyass record.
-Alex........pwns the loser teen on steriods who can't even get a hit on him.
-makuto who puts up a fight against him. shame shame. n00bish little cvnt makes 33 yo eunuch who trains his keister off all day pushed to his limits. oh and this tells you what a wuss Alex is by the way. see how bad they treat their new hero. SNK rocks.
-oh and we see him carrying boulders in his SF3 prologue and he's still getting owned by Ken in SF4 intro. wimp 😆

real competition? half the people he fought are underaged, rookies, tiers below him or people above him who aren't even taking him seriously. some competition.
*i can see the future*
Brain: all these people would wtfpwn terry

Everybody seems to be "in it to win it" Put Oro or Gouki in FF & Terry's win streak(if he's fighting Oro) & life(if he fights Akuma)

That big fish in a very small pond shit don't impress me as much as it seems to impress you.

FF's hierarchy reminds me of that episode of Seinfield where Kramer was taking Karate & bragging about being the best in his class. What Kramer didn't tell them was that he was in a kid's class.

Hate on Capcom all you want. Capcom>SNK cuz they have better storylines & better games. CVS2 great. SVC came out after CVS 2 & was a sorry game anyway

oh and "great stories"? some great story.............the only semblence of a character development ryu's gotten is the boner he seems to be having in the new screenshots of SF4. 😆

Geese lost 'cuz he was a cocky Moron

then ran like a *****.

Somebody helped his ass run too?

He didn't seem to wanna stick around & finish the fight either.

Ryo hightier?

Bi*ch had a "death blow" that could only kill clothes.

when he did master it Yuri had to stop ryo from doing to ti Takuma cuz it WOULD HAVE KILLED HIM. hence the expression death blow.

compare to pvssy ryu who needs a shitshoryuken (the greatest power of his) and can't put a lardass in pink leopart tights down. heck he didn't even tears his clothes.

then came the even more embarassing loses.

Terry damn near kills him the 1st time they fight. 2nd time he's all pumped up on "roids" & winds up dead.

Every advantage you can think of & still loses. Even you called it PIS.

No small army of fighters needed to beat Geese.

He ain't Bison, he's a pushover.

Rose isn't much as far as gameplay goes, but her mastery of soul power puts her on par w/Bison.

Sagat ain't gonna beat Ryu perfect 'cuz Ryu can rumble w/him.

Ripoff's a bit*h & ain't done shit but beat up his dad.

Dad knew he was fighting his son & likely didn't go all out.

Frank's fave seems to be Terry.

He's no capcom fanboy.

Just not a hater.

His site is AWESOME!!!!!!!

Best fighting game website ever!!

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22

dude Ryu hogged away Alex's spotlight by beating him perfect. made alex look like a dumbass loser who just got lucky.
Rock WON the tourny by beating up everyone he faced=respect.
Alex got lucky and lost perfect to ryu=wussy.

and here you are cribbing about terry reaching semi's in rock's game 😆

It's almost become a tradition to point this out to you, Sado. I dunno how many times your gonna bring that up, but nonetheless it doesn't make any more true. Alex barely had any experience at the time and he was competing against a veteran. How exactly would he have won in a realistic manner? That would be like an amateur boxer taking down Ali in his prime. Unless, he got lucky win, but that would be improbable. At the end of the day, Alex was still the star of the SF3 versus Ryu who was never supposed to be in the game. Losing doesn't take away from his shine. 😬

I'm never gonna see how beating people up=SNK respects those characters? People don't respect punching bags that do nothing but lose to make the main character look good.

I still think it's f**kin' weird that he smiles when's he's KO'd.

Originally posted by Sado22

so lets analyze this:
-adon, a screaming queer who hasn't done jackshit since day one. the most he's done is take on beaten, unfocused sagat and get hospitalized for his troubles
-geki............who?
-sagat, got pwned and won by being a cheapshit
-ken, someone who hardly trains as much as he does and is a tier below him and STILL gets pwned. oh but he was unfocused...yeah.
-sakura...took a dive. well that's what they want us to believe.
-akuma...............the ONLY REAL fight he is supposed to have only akuma wasnot going all out.
-sagat...............gets uber power boost from bison and still loses like a little b!tch.
-ken....like i said before
-Hugo..........a generic boss from FF who Cody/guy/haggar pwned to shameful levels.
-oro..............gets pwned. again, oro wasn't even serious.
-ken...finally manages to beat him
-Sean....finally another victory to add to his pussyass record.
-Alex........pwns the loser teen on steriods who can't even get a hit on him.
-makuto who puts up a fight against him. shame shame. n00bish little cvnt makes 33 yo eunuch who trains his keister off all day pushed to his limits. oh and this tells you what a wuss Alex is by the way. see how bad they treat their new hero. SNK rocks.
-oh and we see him carrying boulders in his SF3 prologue and he's still getting owned by Ken in SF4 intro. wimp 😆

real competition? half the people he fought are underaged, rookies, tiers below him or people above him who aren't even taking him seriously. some competition.

Adon- He's only been in three canon Street Fighter's and one of which had very poor writing. Besides if he had won Fair & Square against Sagat, I doubt you would have been satisfied Sado. He was scouted and offered a position by Shadowloo, I doubt that a nobody loser would garner such attention. Especially when you look at the type of Street Fighters shadowloo recruits [Prior too alpha 3 of course]. So, can you really say he's a nobody when he's: 1) The New God of Muay Thai 2) Scouted by Shadowloo?

Also, he underestimated Ryu, which is why he lost.

Geki- Ryu Didn't fight him, I believe he was retconned to have been killed by Gen.

Sagat- Of course he cheap shotted, Sagat was much better than Ryu at the time. I don't see how it's shameful to have someone stronger than you, because quite frankly the invincible hero theme is very boring. Ryu isn't Terry. . .

Oro-Same with Sagat.

Ken- Ryu still has a better win record, though. Ken most likely has some wins against him, but he really wouldn't be a rival if he didn't.

Sakura- He took a dive, what would beating a little girl prove?

Alex- You answered your own question, Sado. If Alex is a loser, then he shouldn't be able to lose to Ryu. Quite frankly, I don't get it. You complain when Ryu wins and then you complain when Ryu loses?

Makoto- She had a match against him, we don't really know the results. Most likely it was a friendly spar with no winner.

Street Fighter IV takes place after Street Fighter II, but before III. So, it makes since that he's still competing with Ken.

As for real competition, Ryu's faced most of the Street Fighters top tiers. Furthermore, he's been in a total of 10,000 bouts. Just because he's competition actually fights back, doesn't mean he's weak.

Originally posted by Sado22

stop right there. you being a lazy foo, never followed the SF story like i did. the amount of retcons and crap that capcom have done is beyond belief. they practically make a game and say it doesn't matter despite it having a canonical name. at least SNK specify thiers by calling it a special edition. oh and SNK don't make hot babes and turn them into transvestites cuz "its rude to hit women" 😆

oh and "great stories"? some great story.............the only semblence of a character development ryu's gotten is the boner he seems to be having in the new screenshots of SF4. 😆

Retcons aren't a bad thing, Sado. The only real major retcon Capcom did was for Street Fighter 1, when they decide to have Ryu cheat rather than just beat up Sagat and turn him into a generic bad guy. The other major retcon was Alpha 3's plot, which has been stated to be horrible. Unless you wanna beat a dead horse and mention it again. The other retcons are minor things like timelines being pushed back or characters plots being expanded. Having retconns just means that Capcom still gives a damn.

As for character development, we must have went over this mad times. Ryu does have character development, most notibly in the Alpha series. The whole Satsu No Hadou conflict was huge, I don't see how you can miss it. Ryu just hasn't developed lately because he was not written to be in Street Fighters III plot until the later added him and connected him too Oro. Yeah, his stories is boring to some. But, what do you expect from someone who follows a traditional Budoka's lifestyle? Your not gonna get much from a man who adhere's to ascetic and self restrain.

guys, this the Kyo thread not the Ryu thread, go take this there.