Rethpext Kyo Kusanagi (Respect)

Originally posted by Sado22
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welcome back buddy!

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how the hell were they even when Iori was pwning him for the most part of it?! foo!

i remember the intro by heart!

-kyo rushes forward and does a punch (that iori probably blocked since he was standing there looking at him run up to him. Iori isn't ryu)
-Iori does a flaming slash that Kyo blocks
-Iori kicks Kyo several feet away
-Kyo gets up does jump kick, that Iori dodges
-Kyo does uppercut that Iori simply grabs without effort
-Kyo reels back
-Iori does a jump kick, Kyo counters with a shoulder charge (kyo's FIRST hit)
-he follows up with a redkick that Iori obviously dodged.
-Iori reels back from an attack
-Kyo does kick, Iori ducks, does a shoulder charge
-Iori punches kyo in the face and does the negative crescent moon
-Iori gloats
-Kyo reels from another attack
-Iori does a gloating, lazy, overconfident kick
-gets punched in the face for being a dumbass
-Kyo gloats
-Iori loses cool and throws a few wild punches that Kyo avoids
-Kyo does an elbow, and punches Iori in the face (notice how the only time he actuially gets in a two straight shots is when Iori lost his cool for a bit. till then Kyo didn't land TWO successive shots on the guy)
-Kyo throws a big right, Iori dodges and gives him the HARDEST TWO SHOTS OF THE ENTIRE CLIP
-Kyo catches Iori off guard with a surprise kick
-big charge and the ram into each other with the projectiles.

so tell me........how in the world are they even when Iori landed most of the hits, all the major hits were also his AND most of the clips opened with Kyo reeling from an attack? get real mang.

then we have the KoFOX comics ad made by SNK which also has Iori with a steady lead. heck the damn clip opens with Kyo kneeling on the ground panting while Iori is gloating at him to get up. Iori isn't even phased. once again the only good shot kyo gets is when Iori winds up letting his guards down.

~Sado

Not to you, darling🙂

It's almost become a tradition to point this out to you, Sado. I dunno how many times your gonna bring that up, but nonetheless it doesn't make any more true.

Alex barely had any experience at the time and he was competing against a veteran. How exactly would he have won in a realistic manner? That would be like an amateur boxer taking down Ali in his prime. Unless, he got lucky win, but that would be improbable. At the end of the day, Alex was still the star of the SF3 versus Ryu who was never supposed to be in the game. Losing doesn't take away from his shine.

I'm never gonna see how beating people up=SNK respects those characters? People don't respect punching bags that do nothing but lose to make the main character look good

Adon- He's only been in three canon Street Fighter's and one of which had very poor writing. Besides if he had won Fair & Square against Sagat, I doubt you would have been satisfied Sado. He was scouted and offered a position by Shadowloo, I doubt that a nobody loser would garner such attention. Especially when you look at the type of Street Fighters shadowloo recruits [Prior too alpha 3 of course]. So, can you really say he's a nobody when he's: 1) The New God of Muay Thai 2) Scouted by Shadowloo?

oh and one last thing. Terry mentions in his SvC ending that Joe fought Adon in a good match and lost. Joe, someone terry hasn't begun to take seriously in 10 years, put up a good fight against adon.

Also, he underestimated Ryu, which is why he lost.

Geki- Ryu Didn't fight him, I believe he was retconned to have been killed by Gen.

Sagat- Of course he cheap shotted, Sagat was much better than Ryu at the time. I don't see how it's shameful to have someone stronger than you, because quite frankly the invincible hero theme is very boring. Ryu isn't Terry

Ken- Ryu still has a better win record, though. Ken most likely has some wins against him, but he really wouldn't be a rival if he didn't.

Sakura- He took a dive, what would beating a little girl prove?

Alex- You answered your own question, Sado. If Alex is a loser, then he shouldn't be able to lose to Ryu. Quite frankly, I don't get it. You complain when Ryu wins and then you complain when Ryu loses?

Makoto- She had a match against him, we don't really know the results. Most likely it was a friendly spar with no winner.

Street Fighter IV takes place after Street Fighter II, but before III. So, it makes since that he's still competing with Ken.

As for real competition, Ryu's faced most of the Street Fighters top tiers. Furthermore, he's been in a total of 10,000 bouts. Just because he's competition actually fights back, doesn't mean he's weak

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
how many times...? 😕
you talking to me like i know you....weird.
*checks*
HEY! ashtar! whats up man, long time no debate. where you been?

I've been on and off, the usual. 🙂

Originally posted by Sado22

dude you're missing the point. brain is whining that Terry didn't lose to Rock in the series and hogged away his spotlight by reaching the semis (i don't even know how that works by the way). I'm just pointing out to him that unlike Terry who didn't lose to rock and didn't make him look bad either, RYU not only beat Alex but beat him perfect. now THAT is hogging attention if you go by brain-logic.
you undersand now?
like i told you before........ryu shouldn't lose to Alex. EVER. Same reason why Terry shouldn't lose to Rock. but brain somehow can't wrap his head around that.

Oh okay, I get your point and I guess I agree.

Originally posted by Sado22

....and while we're at the subject shadowloo recruiting people isn't a feat. they've got losers like birdie there. they were also tryin to recruit so many other people that are lowtiers of the series can't remember their names. heck cammy was to be bison's new body and she's midtier material.
1. new god of muay thai after cherrypicking sagat....and still being hospitalized
2. ....as i said above.

Birdie is one of the stronger Street Fighters in the series. I don't see how that's a bad thing, it's not like Dans in Shadowloo. The only times they tried to recruit weak people was in retarded Alpha 3, which is why I said piror to Alpha 3. Adon was scouted since before Alpha, So, those low tiers and Alpha 3 for that fact doesn't really matter. Since, I'm referring to back when Shadowloo didn't search the world for underage girls.

Cammy's was a replacement because she was the only other person that was genetically compatible with the Psycho Drive. Her fighting skills weren't really an issue, Bison just needed a body. Any lack of skill on cammy's part could be negated by Bison in due time.

Originally posted by Sado22

oh and one last thing. Terry mentions in his SvC ending that Joe fought Adon in a good match and lost. Joe, someone terry hasn't begun to take seriously in 10 years, put up a good fight against adon.

Who does Terry take seriously, the guy never loses.

Originally posted by Sado22

and yet that doesnt matter when Geese lost to Ryo. not saying YOU by the way.

go back to debate at hand. brain says Geese sucks for losing to ryo despite knowing exactly how the fight went.

Well, I don't really think it's jobbing, but Geese always does lose.

Originally posted by Sado22

which kills the point of training so much when you can't beat someone:
-weaker than you
-less skilled than you
-trains less than you
-and who you challenge to matches cuz he's "slacking" (who then winds up kicking his ass all the same)

That's a bad point because Ryu does defeat Ken, just not all the time. Again, Ken is his rival and is only alittle worst than Ryu. So, why shouldn't he get a few wins? Ken and Ryu are peers and have been fighting for decades. It doesn't make sense to establish him as a rival, but he always beats him?

Originally posted by Sado22

last time you agreed that fighting everyday, all day for 10 years straight and then being on the streets for 25+ years>>>fighting 10000 opponents.

~Sado

No, Ryu's been around the world for 12 years and Trained in Goukens temple for over 10 years. So, that's 22+ years and 10,000 opponents. So, it dfoesn't really make a difference since the margin of error is 5 years off.

same point as Terry/Rock
not really. go back to my point. you see, old friend, this is all relative to brain's points.

Well, I don't necessarily agree with brainy's point.

Wait, did someone say Frank Yagami??? That's one of the biggest Capcom/Namco fanboys I've ever seen. Even though he got a cool website, anybody can see just how bias he is. Darn Mortal Kombat/World Heroes hater! 😠 Gosh, I'm so sick of that dude!!!

Wait, did someone say Frank Yagami??? That's one of the biggest Capcom/Namco fanboys I've ever seen. Even though he got a cool website, anybody can see just how bias he is. Darn Mortal Kombat/World Heroes hater! Gosh, I'm so sick of that dude!!!

I've been on and off, the usual.

Birdie is one of the stronger Street Fighters in the series. I don't see how that's a bad thing, it's not like Dans in Shadowloo. The only times they tried to recruit weak people was in retarded Alpha 3, which is why I said piror to Alpha 3. Adon was scouted since before Alpha, So, those low tiers and Alpha 3 for that fact doesn't really matter. Since, I'm referring to back when Shadowloo didn't search the world for underage girls.

Cammy's was a replacement because she was the only other person that was genetically compatible with the Psycho Drive. Her fighting skills weren't really an issue, Bison just needed a body. Any lack of skill on cammy's part could be negated by Bison in due time.

Who does Terry take seriously, the guy never loses.

Well, I don't really think it's jobbing, but Geese always does lose.

honestly i doubt the whole berserker terry is true.

That's a bad point because Ryu does defeat Ken, just not all the time. Again, Ken is his rival and is only alittle worst than Ryu. So, why shouldn't he get a few wins? Ken and Ryu are peers and have been fighting for decades. It doesn't make sense to establish him as a rival, but he always beats him?

No, Ryu's been around the world for 12 years and Trained in Goukens temple for over 10 years. So, that's 22+ years and 10,000 opponents. So, it dfoesn't really make a difference since the margin of error is 5 years off.

that means ryu's been fighting for 11 years. prior to that he was dojodorking with ken.

Terry was on the streets at birth. was taken in by Jeff at some point in his childhood anywhere around the age of 5. became an orphan again at 10. from 10 he's been fighting since......every day, all day for the first 10 years to prepare for his fight with Geese. and he's been fighting ever since. he's 35 in MOTW....and literally been fighting for near 30 years.
basically that's 5 years dojo dorking, and been fighting for the rest.

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22

well, good to have you back at any rate. how long do you plan to stick around? 😆

I dunno, it depends on how free I'am.

Originally posted by Sado22

which was the one where he was lookin for akuma? SFA3 or SFA2? can't remember right now.

At the end of Street Fighter Alpha 2.

Originally posted by Sado22

Zaki for one. he takes Geese seriously too.....he even calls him a nightmare in KoFMI2.

give the guy a break. the guy was a boss in only three games. first time he loses cuz of a retarted overconfidence (and wasn't affected at all...in fact he never bothered with the sakazaki's again) and the other two times we don't even know how the fight went..................all we have is Klantis' bull which is mega kyodickwank even in a FF faq 😆

honestly i doubt the whole berserker terry is true.

Fact still stands that he failed to beat Terry three times, and the third time he had plot device. He's my favorite KOF boss, but the only threat he poses is to onlookers when he's knocked down from soaring heights. Terry calling him a nightmare is most likely because he is tired off kicking his arse. I'll give the guy a break, when he starts acting like a boss.

Zaki still couldn't get one over Terry, though. What's point of even taking him seriously when the outcome is obvious?

Originally posted by Sado22

the same way its with Andy and Terry. but Andy is a lower tier to terry and LOSES for being lower. if they want them to be equal then they should place Ken on the same tier. losing to a lower tier makes it lame....and makes you wonder if it even matters. ken has a 2-2 record against ryu thus far. not really sayin a lot for a guy who a tier higher.

Ryu still has the better win record, though. Which is why Ken is placed in a lower tier. If Ken couldn't beat him once, then he'd be several tiers below Ryu, Like Alex. Tiers measure overall strength, it doesn't mean that a higher tier will break sweat from a lower tier.

Originally posted by Sado22

from Tiamat's faq, we have:
SF3= ryu 33
SF2= ryu 28
SFA3= ryu 25
SFA2= ryu 23
SF1= ryu 22

that means ryu's been fighting for 11 years. prior to that he was dojodorking with ken.

You forget Third Strike, where Ryu is 35 years old. So, that would be around 13 years with 10,000 opponents fought.

Originally posted by Sado22

Terry was on the streets at birth. was taken in by Jeff at some point in his childhood anywhere around the age of 5. became an orphan again at 10. from 10 he's been fighting since......every day, all day for the first 10 years to prepare for his fight with Geese. and he's been fighting ever since. he's 35 in MOTW....and literally been fighting for near 30 years.
basically that's 5 years dojo dorking, and been fighting for the rest.

~Sado

That's only because we know when he started to train. Were not sure about when Ryu started training, but it's most likely a few years before he reached ten. But, for the sake of argument, assume it was ten years. He then parcipated in the first World Warrior Tournament at 22. 10 to 22 is 11 years, then he fought around the world from 22 to 35, that's 13 years. So, add it up and that's 24 years. Now factor in the fact that Ryu is older than terry. Terry was born sometime in the 70's. So, if you add the difference between their respective birth dates to Ryu's experience, it becomes higher.

So, let's see: Ryu was born on 1964 versus terry on 1973 which gives us a difference of 9 years. So, add 9 too Ryu's 24 years and you get 33 Years. This is assuming that we start with Ryu training at ten years old. If he started out older than his experience goes up. Combined with 10,000 opponents, four known tournaments, three major and one minor, and the fact that he's famous Street Fighter.

Originally posted by Sado22
exactly! that stupid moron p!sses me off to no end. not only does he do nothing on the site but copy paste from other sites but he goes around saying crap about any game that's not by Capcom or Namco (and SNK at times). the guy doesnt' jackshit and goes around acting like he invented videogames.

I know, right? Like you, I also noticed that he copied some of that stuff (noticeably the profiles for some of the SNK characters) from another site. Man, I also hope nobody trusts his reviews either because they're definitely not reliable.

Originally posted by Sado22
how many times...? 😕
you talking to me like i know you....weird.
*checks*
HEY! ashtar! whats up man, long time no debate. where you been?

dude you're missing the point. brain is whining that Terry didn't lose to Rock in the series and hogged away his spotlight by reaching the semis (i don't even know how that works by the way). I'm just pointing out to him that unlike Terry who didn't lose to rock and didn't make him look bad either, RYU not only beat Alex but beat him perfect. now THAT is hogging attention if you go by brain-logic.
you undersand now?

About Rock/Terry: Rock's a natural & has been watching & being taught by Terry for about a decade. He knows what to expect from Terry & is faster & don't seem to ever tire. Most of Rock's move that he took are improvements/modified versions on the originals & he can pull moves out of his ass like he's done b4. If Terry fought Rock & won, it's breaking the FF "hero never loses" policy just to keep Terry's pointless W streak alive. Not cool. Alex/Ryu: Alex is a rookie & he hasn't really faced anything like Ryu b4. Ryu's faced wrestlers b4. If Alex beat Ryu, it would be breaking the SF "hero gets beat but doesn't quit & is better for the experience" thing. Also, Rock would beat the dog shit outta Alex. Alex is good, but he's got a very long way to go 'fore he can give somebody like Ryu a good scrap. I'd go farther, but I'd start dissing Terry & I told my blood bro I'd lay off of that 'til after X-mas

I don't care about Terry reaching the semifinals or even him losing to Rock(would have been cool though). What pisses me off is that when Terry was the main FF guy, he didn't share the spotlight w/ANYBODY.

Nobody else ever got to help save the day or do shit of importance.

So why the fvck does Rock have to share the damn spotlight w/someone who never did it for anybody else in the series?

Terry beat Billy AND Geese.

Hell, they coulda had Marco or somebody else take on Grant or god forbid have Grant beat Terry. But naw, Terry can't ever lose. Seriously, how CAN his story be entertaining if all his fights have the same formula & end the same way? Only known fight he didn't do the hogan routine in seems to be against Billy. & he straight up raped Billy. Why should I care about the adventures of the infallible man?

About Rock/Terry: Rock's a natural & has been watching & being taught by Terry for about a decade.

He knows what to expect from Terry & is faster & don't seem to ever tire.

oh and Rock doesn't seem to tire?
dude the guy literally bends over and pants his ass off after doing raging storm 😐

Most of Rock's move that he took are improvements/modified versions on the originals & he can pull moves out of his ass like he's done b4.

If Terry fought Rock & won, it's breaking the FF "hero never loses" policy just to keep Terry's pointless W streak alive. Not cool.

Alex is a rookie & he hasn't really faced anything like Ryu b4. Ryu's faced wrestlers b4. If Alex beat Ryu, it would be breaking the SF "hero gets beat but doesn't quit & is better for the experience" thing.

Also, Rock would beat the dog shit outta Alex. Alex is good, but he's got a very long way to go 'fore he can give somebody like Ryu a good scrap. I'd go farther, but I'd start dissing Terry & I told my blood bro I'd lay off of that 'til after X-mas

That's only because we know when he started to train. Were not sure about when Ryu started training, but it's most likely a few years before he reached ten. But, for the sake of argument, assume it was ten years. He then parcipated in the first World Warrior Tournament at 22. 10 to 22 is 11 years

then he fought around the world from 22 to 35, that's 13 years.

MOTW Terry=35 years
5 years dojo dorking
30 years fighitng.

MOTW Ryu=43 (since he's 8 years older than Terry)
10 years doing nothing
12 years dojodorking (which isn't fighitng technically)
21 fighting

Terry still gets more experience points for not only doing it longer but also doing it on a more harsher basis. don't get me wrong though, i know what you are trying to proove. it wasn't as bad as i was initially trying to show, my bad 🙂

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22

11 years of dojo dorking mane. that is far from being seasoned.
Terry spend 10 years and the 5 before Jeff took him in, fighting. and it wasn't fighting for rep, it was fighting to survive. ryu was brought up in a loving, heaven like forest with a loving gaurdian..........while terry was eating dirt and trying to keep himself alive in a city runover by thugs and fighters. by the time terry hit 20 he was more seasoned than ryu ever was.
fighting to survive>>fighting to impress

That's because Terry chose too stay in the street's to fight. He could have left to japan with Andy, or went some went whereelse. Just like Ryu, he chose to street Fight for whatever reason. Also, who was Ryu fighting to impress, he took the martial arts because his guardian was a martial artist.

Also, how could Terry have spent years on the streets? Jeff met him at the age of five and he was on the streets at Ten. Your telling me he was street fighting as a toddler? 😬

😂

Originally posted by Sado22
well technically that's cuz his tourny was RESOLVED. grant interfered in the match between Terry and Rock. or terry challenged him at any rate since terry wanted rock to go on ahead (cuz he isn't a toestepping eunuch like a certain loser in a karate gi). in case of FF, FF2 and FFRB Terry came in the tourny after winning matches. can't get to the final stage before clearing all the other stages can you, mane?
also, Grant is kane's lackey...........why you cribbing now that terry is taking on lackeys while rock gets the mane course?
and then you go around saying that i hate akuma cuz he molested me. if anything watching you b!tch about terry since day one really makes me wonder if some blondponytailed guy you ran into turned you into Marsellus Wallus from the infamous Pulp Fiction rape scene. 😆

Hon Fu. stop right there 🙂

cuz no one ever interrupted the tourny before. besides we all know Rock can never beat Terry so why even try. he's a rookie. and a wheenie loser who comes crying on terry's shoulder.
Rock: boohoo my mom died and my story is a bad jin kazama spoof.
Terry: grow a pair loser! i don't know my parents, was thrown on the streets, lost my step father, watched him get murdered, and have been on the streets for the past 25 years!
Rock: *goes back inside closet to feel himself*

a flunkie and the boss. reduced to simple flunkie jobs. what you complainin about? compare to ryu who still gets his nuts licked by a old coot who pasted his butt on the floor....he even gets to downplay the new champ. THAT should piss you off. but apparently it doesn't...but we all know why of course 😆

Marco? GREEN BELTER MARCO?! are you nuts?!

terry was practically legendary for his speed. "the blinding speed of Terry Bogard", remember? the flyer of Fatal Fury2 that i told you about?
and you're point is redundant. Rock watched Terry and his moves? Terry watched ROCK GROW UP! he even taught him HOW to punch!

again, Terry taught him everything he knows.........and more. he also pwned his dad twice. half of Rock's movelist are his own moves and the other half is from a man whom he pwned twice.

oh and Rock doesn't seem to tire?
dude the guy literally bends over and pants his ass off after doing raging storm 😐

powerdunk is running downward punch compared to combo version of terry. a skilled fighter like Terry would see it coming for a mile away.
repuuken/ double reppuken....same as daddy.
rising tackle...same as terry
burnknuckle wannabe elbow.......the only original move he has.
aside from that everything else is Terry's or geese's moves which terry has thoroough knowledge and familiarity with.

a win streak which i've proved to be wrong. Terry has lost and the fact that he never makes it to the finals of KoF since KoF95 proves it. also i mentioned that "unbeaten wolf" could very well be of the same mode of expression as "invincible dragon" is for Ryo. it could be figurative.

Ryu is to alex what Terry is to Rock. they both are the pinnacles of their games. Ryu is too skilled for Alex the same way Terry a 25+ seasoned veteran. rookies don't beat veterans unless veterans act stupid (geese, sagat). stop trying to make it sound like its any different cuz it aint, manebrain. you know it. DON"T DENY THE POWER! 😛

go ahead dude....it never bothered me before. i find your terry hating funny. like i said to you the first times we spoke....i love your sarcasm 😆

10. Retcons are meant to fix things. FF needs retcons big-time mane-iac. 11.Andy ain't Terry's rival. Not by a loooooooooong shot. FF had 2 tiers. Terry & Not Terry. Respond in a Terry related thread though. Kyo's RT is too cool 4 this

Originally posted by King Hellstorm
Idk bout that, yo.

It's no secret that even after all these years that the rivalry between Kyo and Iori is still the main rivalry. Kyo's the hero and Iori's sorta the badguy...KOF always has the good guy prevail but it's not just that, Kyo has shown serious potential, he's done some things that Iori hasn't.

Originally posted by King Hellstorm
Kyo is a bit of a slacker but when he puts his mind to it he can be a beast. I think that if Kyo puts his mind to it he can be equal to Iori, like the KOF 98 intro, they seemed pretty even.

1.Galford and Haomaru are pretty cool...hell, 90% of the SS characters are cool,

Originally posted by King Hellstorm
but I do not dig Rock, yo...not at all.

2.Both Kyo and Terry are cool but Terry is a cool fighter,

Originally posted by King Hellstorm
Kyo is cool all around. He's like the type of dude you wanna hang wit.

Kyo would be my smokein buddy...he'd be real handy when there isn't a lighter around.

That's because Terry chose too stay in the street's to fight. He could have left to japan with Andy, or went some went whereelse. Just like Ryu, he chose to street Fight for whatever reason. Also, who was Ryu fighting to impress, he took the martial arts because his guardian was a martial artist. Also, how could Terry have spent years on the streets? Jeff met him at the age of five and he was on the streets at Ten. Your telling me he was street fighting as a toddler?

and read tiamat ryu story again....he said he entered SF1 to test his skill and to impress gouken.

Said interruption was written in 4 terry to have something to do.

Ryu should lose to Oro & beat the mess outta Alex. Why should that make me angry? @least try to make sense.

If Terry's lost, give me a name. Time over shit don't matter.

This wouldn't be the 1st time I was right about Rock & proved you wrong. Rock does a ki blast after evac toss & the slide behind you move is his too right? Did Geese ever DR Terry? The elbow/Palm strike is faster than BKnuckle.

Say whatever bad shit you want about Rock. Look who raised him (you're usually wrong 'bout him anyways) You got a vid of Rock doing a RS?

Vets don't lose to rookies? How come TFRu don't win tournies? So Ripoff's pop WAS holding back then? Retcons are a good thing when used right. FF story needs retcons like a mofo mane

WTF is Hon Fu? Did Hon Fu kick some ass?

Rock's dad had a history of incompetance. Rock don't.

You were right. Bison IS smarter than Geese.

That's why Bison's beat the hero & has a win in the last 20 years.

Geese was better than the hero(one person) & still ended up running 'cuz he's a moron.

No wonder his tourny rec is 0 & 3.

Rock can @least hang w/Terry in a scrap.

Rock's a natural.

Alex can't hang w/Ryu.

Rock winning the tourny after losing to Terry makes even less sense than usual.

I think the manga was true. This is difficult. I can't wait 'til after X-Mas Did I lose count?

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
...wtf emp? 😕
obviously i didn't say that. i said terry has been on the street SURVIVING before he was taking in my jeff.

How much struggle could he have gone thru since he was found by jeff at the age of five.

Originally posted by Sado22

and read tiamat ryu story again....he said he entered SF1 to test his skill and to impress gouken.

He entered because he wanted to test his skill, not because he wanted to impress Gouken. I can quote it if you want.

being less than five and trying to keep yourself and your younger brother alive in the most voilent city of your universe is a struggle. its an amazing struggle.

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
being less than five and trying to keep yourself and your younger brother alive in the most voilent city of your universe is a struggle. its an amazing struggle.

~Sado

That's conjecture, because it doesn't mention anything about him fighting in the city at that age. He was simply an oprhan, and the only time we hear mention of him fighting in the Street was after Jeff died.

no, jeff picked him off the streets to begin with.

Originally posted by Sado22
no, jeff picked him off the streets to begin with.

true...that's why i said around 5.

~Sado
P.S. why classic NES? just curious 🙂