Student gets arrested and tasered at John Kerry Forum

Originally posted by Devil King
See, I don't understand what the hell John Kerry has to do with it. That's what bothered me most of all. Everyone is plastering John Kerry's name all over this, like he was holding the tazer or something. Of all the footage and pictures I've seen, I haven't seen John Kerry's mug once.

In the context you are referring to John Kerry and the context that I am using John Kerry are two different things. Why can I not find it amusing when someone owns someone else? That has NOTHING to do with the subsequent events leading up to the "tasering".(In the context in which I intended my bringing of John Kerry's name and the author of the book.)

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I strongly suspect that the reason the kid got tasered was because his causing a scene (because he was mad about the mic getting cut) gave them barely enough of an excuse to let off some stress (and to exercise their egos) to shock him. They'll likely say on their report that he reached for one of their guns or something.

you honestly dont see a pattern here? that every time something like this happens, there is always some video missing?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
or that he was resisting violently and they tasered him to keep him from injuring himself.

you honestly dont see a pattern here? that every time something like this happens, there is always some video missing?

Because the cops don't want their superiors to see what really happened because they'd get fired?

How does "Dude, get off of me!" qualify as "resisting violently"?

that video actually has 2 points where it cuts out. We don't see the part where he asks his questions or is escorted out.

Clearly excessive force anyways. Most cops could bench press that kid, even were he trying something, they could have held him real easy. I don't know, here in Canada they put people in the back of the car when they are acting up rather than assaulting them...

But ya, I agree with RJ, we cannot make any real conclusions from the video we have seen. There is a response from the University put up that seems to support the idea that the cops were acting sadisticly, but it also questions whether or not the student would face charges.

A full video would clear things right up though. Whats taking youtube so long lol

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
to subdue suspects WITHOUT using lethal force.

Lying on the ground pleading to "not tase him" sounds like he's subdued.

And RJ, there are camera's everywhere now. It's a great thing that people videotape this stuff, it will eventually cause cops to think about what they're doing, rather than tasering some dude because he's being kind of a dick.

Why wouldn't people video record this type of stuff? They see some guy lying on the ground with half a dozen cops around him, asking "why was I arrested" only to get shocked for a response.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Because the cops don't want their superiors to see what really happened because they'd get fired?

How does "Dude, get off of me!" qualify as "resisting violently"?

dumb ass didnt do as he was told, resisted, probably got violent, and got zapped. end of story.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

dumb ass didnt do as he was told, resisted, probably got violent, and got zapped. end of story.

I also don't think it is fair to assume the kid did anything to deserve a tasering. Remember, we cannot see what happened between point A and B.

Originally posted by inimalist
I also don't think it is fair to assume the kid did anything to deserve a tasering. Remember, we cannot see what happened between point A and B.

Very true, but why? Did CNN intentionally not show it?...or did the cops make the camera man "confiscate" the footage?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaiWCS10C5s&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NWukZhsiBw&mode=related&search=

More videos.

Apparently the guy said "Blowjob" and "Impeach Bush" and went over some time limit and this is why he was treated the way he was.

Is it just me or has the youtube feature stopped working for everyone?

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Very true, but why? Did CNN intentionally not show it?...or did the cops make the camera man "confiscate" the footage?

My assumption is either a) CNN didn't film it and this is what one of the guys friends sent to the media (making him look good) or b) CNN filmed it and i) wanted to make the cops look bad for scandal ratings or ii) left the other parts out because they thought them of no consequence for a society that can only handle headline news.

Originally posted by InnerRise
Apparently the guy said "Blowjob" and "Impeach Bush" and went over some time limit and this is why he was treated the way he was.

Still doesn't warrant getting shocked.

Originally posted by InnerRise
Is it just me or has the youtube feature stopped working for everyone?

Yeah, Youtube has issues.

same old stories. cop tells you to do something, you refuse, they try to be professional and tactful, you act a fool, they cuff you and taser you.

I love cops.

I watched a couple of videos...

Its a tough one. Clearly they had no right to man handle him the way they did in the first place, but the way he acted afterward did warrant them having to assert their authority (note: Not that I think it is right that they arrested him, but once they started they aren't going to stop, and he certainly made things worse for himself).

The police should be reprimanded, but I think a more important concern is who issued the order to arrest a person asking questions in the first place.

They called it inciting a riot, but I think that was an excuse for the cameras and to get him out of the building.

Does anyone know if he is still in jail?

Originally posted by dadudemon
In the context you are referring to John Kerry and the context that I am using John Kerry are two different things. Why can I not find it amusing when someone owns someone else? That has NOTHING to do with the subsequent events leading up to the "tasering".(In the context in which I intended my bringing of John Kerry's name and the author of the book.)

I never said you couldn't find it amusing.

All I said, is I don't understand why John Kerry's name is being plastered all over this story. He didn't have anything to do with this ridiculous situation. But FOX news would have you believe that he was the one holding the kid down and zapping his ass.

I'll say this. I am at a career crossroads. On one hand, I have the oppurtunity to advance in the hotel business. On the other hand, I have the option of joining HPD. IF I opt to become a policeman, and I am questioning a suspect about...whatever, and said suspect acts a fool and gets vioent, I will taser him right in the balls.

Originally posted by Devil King
I never said you couldn't find it amusing.

All I said, is I don't understand why John Kerry's name is being plastered all over this story. He didn't have anything to do with this ridiculous situation. But FOX news would have you believe that he was the one holding the kid down and zapping his ass.

Originally posted by inimalist
I watched a couple of videos...

Its a tough one. Clearly they had no right to man handle him the way they did in the first place, but the way he acted afterward did warrant them having to assert their authority (note: Not that I think it is right that they arrested him, but once they started they aren't going to stop, and he certainly made things worse for himself).

The police should be reprimanded, but I think a more important concern is who issued the order to arrest a person asking questions in the first place.

They called it inciting a riot, but I think that was an excuse for the cameras and to get him out of the building.

Does anyone know if he is still in jail?

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

So, anyone else think this is a mental health issue?

Originally posted by InnerRise
He is facing multiple charges and no bond has been set. SO yes.

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

multiple charges of what? is there a link to that?

Originally posted by inimalist
So, anyone else think this is a mental health issue?