Originally posted by Captain REXwe dont know why he was tasered. for all we know he was trying to injure the officers, which justifies the taze. point is, we CANNOT see alot of what happened.
So...what was he tasered for?
flashbacks of Rodney King, anyone?
but hey, ask schec, he apparently knows every law in the book.
Originally posted by Captain REXthats just it, Rexie. the vid DOESNT SHOW US alot of the incident. people are assuming they know what happened, when in fact we know nothing of what happened.
Keep it civil, folks. We're not here to whine at each other.But seriously, what the hell? I don't see what he did wrong.
Originally posted by Captain REX
Keep it civil, folks. We're not here to whine at each other.But seriously, what the hell? I don't see what he did wrong.
there really was no reason.
people like to switch the premise and justify his tasing rather than his arrest. maybe his arrest was justifiable, hell if i know. but thats the game they play. "we dont know the full story". indeed we dont. so arrest him. but they had to taser a man who was CLEARLY posing no threat and begged to not be tortured. then come the sci-fi-esque suggestions of video editing.
sure RJ, george lucas and ILM did some cgi magic on all the celphone videos just to make the cops look bad. whatever gets you through the night.
Originally posted by Captain REXwell, if this forum was there for a particular reason, and this kid decided to wreak havoc, which it is plainly obvious he did, the police are more than empowered to remove him from the scene, by any means necessary.
I don't think four police officers should feel threatened by one college student...Still, regardless, it looks like an infringement on freedom of speech, however you put it.
things went wrong when he resisted. you resist the cops, you pay the price.
Originally posted by Schecterby "edit" i mean they are only showing us what htey want us to see. that, or the person filming only filmed what THEY wanted us to see.
there really was no reason.people like to switch the premise and justify his tasing rather than his arrest. maybe his arrest was justifiable, hell if i know. but thats the game they play. "we dont know the full story". indeed we dont. so arrest him. but they had to taser a man who was CLEARLY posing no threat and begged to not be tortured. then come the sci-fi-esque suggestions of video editing.
sure RJ, george lucas and ILM did some cgi magic on all the celphone videos just to make the cops look bad. whatever gets you through the night.
did I mention CGI? overanalyze much?
Originally posted by Quiero Motawow, I gotta give you points for the dramatic effect. wanker
So if the cops had emptied the magazine and turned him into Swiss cheese, you would still defend them??
they dont have to use their sidearms anymore against a suspect UNLESS the suspect draws a weapon.
yes, by any means necessary. at first, they were polite with him, grabbing him and trying to steer him off stage. the moment he resisted, the moment he flung his arm away from them, they were authorized to use "whatever means necessary" in order to remove him from the stage.
"why are you arresting me?" come on....they werent arresting him, he was hellbent on making a show outta it. the missing piece of vid, I bet would do more than clarify justification on the cops part.
you guys are totally choosing to ignore this.
Originally posted by Captain REXthey werent arrestig him at first, they were merely escorting him away from the stage.
Let's taser the dynamite....
In any case, havoc-wreaking or not, I don't think an arrest was in order. Maybe escorted from the building by security?
then, the vid cuts to him cuffed and beign tazed.
convenient, eh?
forgot to add. the same people who claim "we dont know what happened from what we saw in the video/it may have been edited" will then go on to claim that they know exactly what happened, police officers never stray from procedure and are infallable saints, EVERY ONE....because they went to a police academy. this may be a symptom of retardation. not certain, just speculating, though it is fact, maybe, yes, perhaps, definately.
The only justifiable reason for using a taser would be if:
A) Threatened the safety of the officers or those around him either by actions or vocal threats, e.g. waved his fist in a threatening manner, shouted he'd kill someone etc.
B) Resisted arrest e.g. fought off attempts to handcuff him
By the time they tasered him, he was already in cuffs and surrounded by 4-5 officers. He posed no threat, unless someone wants to state that he has deadly mind powers.