dude, i still consider my self an atheist. if there is a god, may i just say **** YOU. you allow people to suffer and yet u r just? **** that. if not well then all the same. and btw i am born and raised jewish. honestly there's no real concept of the afterlife in judaism so i was just like wtf? so why believe and follow a god when u get..... nothing
Originally posted by chickenlover98
true shaky, but the "possibility" is something i might consider, probly not but jus sayin
There is a Heaven to gain and a Hell to shun (I wouldn't have expended so much of my personal time, effort, and energy for over a year if I knew there was no truth in this). I wouldn't have subject myself to so much verbal abuse either. But regardless of my sacrifices and the sacrifices of other believers on this forum Heaven, Hell, the fact that all are sinners lost without Christ is true whether I say it is or not. You are not a sinner because I say so, you are a sinner because you sin. In addition, you are sinner by nature through heredity. You inherited Adam's sin nature. Case in point: Chickenlover98 have you ever lied? Stolen? Wanted someone else's belongings? Looked on a woman lustfully? Took God's Name in vain? Dishonored your parents? Hated someone in your heart? (God's standards are so high that this particular sin is called murder). Have you ever had sex without marriage? Have you ever had sex with a married woman (who you were not married to)? Have you ever used profanity?
If you can so no to all of these examples then you are right: there is nothing for you to be saved from. You--and only you--don't need Jesus. You have a first-class ticket to Heaven when you die. Enjoy your flight and please, pardon my obnoxious behavior.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
true shaky, but the "possibility" is something i might consider, probly not but jus sayin
There is a Heaven to gain and a Hell to shun (I wouldn't have expended so much of my personal time, effort, and energy for over a year if I knew there was no truth in this). I wouldn't have subject myself to so much verbal abuse either. But regardless of my sacrifices and the sacrifices of other believers on this forum Heaven, Hell, the fact that all are sinners lost without Christ is true whether I say it is or not. You are not a sinner because I say so, you are a sinner because you sin. In addition, you are sinner by nature through heredity. You inherited Adam's sin nature. Case in point: Shakyamunison have you ever lied? Stolen? Wanted someone else's belongings? Looked on a woman lustfully? Took God's Name in vain? Dishonored your parents? Hated someone in your heart? (God's standards are so high that this particular sin is called murder). Have you ever had sex without marriage? Have you ever had sex with a married woman (who you were not married to)? Have you ever used profanity?
If you can so no to all of these examples then you are right: there is nothing for you to be saved from. You--and only you--don't need Jesus. You have a first-class ticket to Heaven when you die. Enjoy your flight and please, pardon my obnoxious behavior.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
There is a Heaven to gain and a Hell to shun (I wouldn't have expended so much of my personal time, effort, and energy for over a year if I knew there was no truth in this). I wouldn't have subject myself to so much verbal abuse either. But regardless of my sacrifices and the sacrifices of other believers on this forum Heaven, Hell, the fact that all are sinners lost without Christ is true whether I say it is or not. You are not a sinner because I say so, you are a sinner because you sin. In addition, you are sinner by nature through heredity. You inherited to Adam's sin nature. Case in point: Shakyamunison have you ever lied? Stolen? Wanted someone else's belongings? Looked on a woman lustfully? Took God's Name in vain? Dishonored your parents? Hated someone in your heart? (God's standards are so high that this particular sin is called murder). Have you ever had sex without marriage? Have you ever had sex with a married woman (who you were not married to)? Have you ever used profanity? So if you can so no to all of these examples then you are right: there is nothing for you to be saved from. You--and only you--don't need Jesus. You have a first-class ticket to Heaven when you die. Enjoy your flight and please, pardon my obnoxious behavior.
Hell is not you go when you die. So, regardless of what you do in this life time you will not go there when you die. Heaven and Hell are two of the ten worlds that we live in at every moment.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Hell is not you go when you die. So, regardless of what you do in this life time you will not go there when you die. Heaven and Hell are two of the ten worlds that we live in at every moment.
Prove it.
There is a Heaven to gain and a Hell to shun (I wouldn't have expended so much of my personal time, effort, and energy for over a year if I knew there was no truth in this). I wouldn't have subject myself to so much verbal abuse either. But regardless of my sacrifices and the sacrifices of other believers on this forum Heaven, Hell, the fact that all are sinners lost without Christ is true whether I say it is or not. You are not a sinner because I say so, you are a sinner because you sin. In addition, you are sinner by nature through heredity. You inherited Adam's sin nature. Case in point: Shakyamunison have you ever lied? Stolen? Wanted someone else's belongings? Looked on a woman lustfully? Took God's Name in vain? Dishonored your parents? Hated someone in your heart? (God's standards are so high that this particular sin is called murder). Have you ever had sex without marriage? Have you ever had sex with a married woman (who you were not married to)? Have you ever used profanity?
If you can so no to all of these examples then you are right: there is nothing for you to be saved from. You--and only you--don't need Jesus. You have a first-class ticket to Heaven when you die. Enjoy your flight and please, pardon my obnoxious behavior.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Prove it...
Here is all the proof you need. Just read all of the page.
http://www.sgi-usa.org/buddhism/faqs/tenworlds.htm
Heaven and Hell are states of mind, not places you go after you die.
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
I love how Shakya continually dismisses the alleged mythology of Christianity yet persists in espousing his beliefs as though they are factual (when, in reality, they are ridiculous).DUDE TOTALLY REINCARNATION AND TEN WORLDS AND SHIT BUT NO WAI HEAVEN AND HELL
So, you don't get my point even though it is right in front of you. Think about what I am doing. You are half way there; just keep in mind that I know what I am doing and I'm trying to make a point.
I love how Shakya continually dismisses the alleged mythology of Christianity yet persists in espousing his beliefs as though they are factual (when, in reality, they are ridiculousbrave words defending what you actually are attacking, did you really think through this respond of yours, or are you just one of the indoctrinated morons clinging to the ways of the ignorant
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Here is all the proof you need. Just read all of the page.http://www.sgi-usa.org/buddhism/faqs/tenworlds.htm
Heaven and Hell are states of mind, not places you go after you die.
Have you been to Heaven or Hell Shakyamunison?
The wisdom behind the ten worlds is significant, regardless of what religion you are.
From what I understand about Buddhism and Christianity, they both encourage the application of the same principles to life. You could find all the concepts of the ten worlds or the four truths somewhere in the Bible (though quite vaguely). But you couldn't find those concepts defined very well anywhere in Christianity. You would have to search the Bible very thoroughly, then make connections between the right verses, to find all these concepts. In Buddhism, they are defined much better. It is as if somebody spent years studying to figure it out, then outlined it perfectly so others could learn the same things faster.
Interesting that according to history, someone did.