So another deathwing victory.....
I want to make a dragon debate that is close....any suggestions?
I got:
So another deathwing victory.....
I want to make a dragon debate that is close....any suggestions?
I got:
yeh but hes in diffrent time zones at diffrent times, he cannot use time freeze and useful moves like that but he may have advantages with time, i mean if its allowed he could move through time back to before the opponent excisted especially if the opponent has no time powers although that would be irregular but i dont agree Red is strongest, i mean maybe in physical but magical? its only the life giver isnt she?
Originally posted by Burning thoughtIt was stated in-game he holds up space. He does in real mythology as well.
where are you getting he holds up space?...if its from real mythology then its not really relevent because their not exactley the same as the mythology versions..in Mythology Kratos does not excist and Atlas even in mythology ive never heard him holding up space..only the world itself.. but in God of war he can only be holding up the mantle since hes blatently underground hence fire and such..Kratos has been shown in human form to have difficulty with large slabs of rock, especially in God of war 1 and in God of war 2 he doesnt tumble those zues sized slabs with ease, not Deathwing throwing ease..anyway its pointless to be debating him throwing Deathwing because the thing is flying anyway 馃槃
Only in gameplay does he have difficulty lifting shit.
And Remindme, the debate is not over.
Deathwing Flies sky high, All our heroes jump at him and attempt to hack & slash. He unleashes molten lava breath, lets say he hits one, that guy is dead. The others manage to pound on the indestructable scales before landing. The earth starts to shake and move, lava pouring from holes that are formed. Deathwing rains lava from the sky.
From there on out, for the heroes, Surviving is as good as it gets.
That is how i now see this battle going
Originally posted by RemindmeLink's light arrows WILL hurt him. Kratos is strong enough with the Blade of Olympus to pierce his skin, Dante I don't know(not a big DMC guy), and Ryu with the TDS is able to kill a planet buster, and should be able to pierce its skin.
Deathwing Flies sky high, All our heroes jump at him and attempt to hack & slash. He unleashes molten lava breath, lets say he hits one, that guy is dead. The others manage to pound on the indestructable scales before landing. The earth starts to shake and move, lava pouring from holes that are formed. Deathwing rains lava from the sky.From there on out, for the heroes, Surviving is as good as it gets.
That is how i now see this battle going
i agree with remindme...he can fly which is a large advantage for him isnt it...and his earthern powers will make surviving hell for them on the ground
Dante is perhaps only one who could possibly be a challenge due to Devil triggers, or were they not allowed? i mean surely Sparda power could beat it
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Link's light arrows WILL hurt him. Kratos is strong enough with the Blade of Olympus to pierce his skin, Dante I don't know(not a big DMC guy), and Ryu with the TDS is able to kill a planet buster, and should be able to pierce its skin.
Okay, i can accept, Links Arrows are going to sting a little bit, but Deathwing is much bigger than any foe Link can slain to my knowledge. He can't bring down or hinder Deathwing in time to stop Deathwing from unleashing hells heat
Kratos is strong enough to pierce indestrutable material? though i don't belive that, i will say just for now, yes he can, even if that were true, he can't cause enough damage in time. Same with Ryu
Cloud might get a few hits in, but he may as well not.
Super Sparda, the only power he i am unfamilar with, is it limited in anyway? be it power or a time limit? Even so, Deathwing could force him into the earths core.
Don't forget, size doesn't have to mean sloppy. And deathwing is not slow
Originally posted by Remindme
Okay, i can accept, Links Arrows are going to sting a little bit, but Deathwing is much bigger than any foe Link can slain to my knowledge. He can't bring down or hinder Deathwing in time to stop Deathwing from unleashing hells heatKratos is strong enough to pierce indestrutable material? though i don't belive that, i will say just for now, yes he can, even if that were true, he can't cause enough damage in time. Same with Ryu
Cloud might get a few hits in, but he may as well not.
Super Sparda, the only power he i am unfamilar with, is it limited in anyway? be it power or a time limit? Even so, Deathwing could force him into the earths core.
Don't forget, size doesn't have to mean sloppy. And deathwing is not slow
its limited by Dantes devil energies, like most of his DT powers it seems, although its strength is supposed to be formidable
Originally posted by Remindme1. Sting a bit? They would hurt like hell, tho I doubt they would one shot him.
Okay, i can accept, Links Arrows are going to sting a little bit, but Deathwing is much bigger than any foe Link can slain to my knowledge. He can't bring down or hinder Deathwing in time to stop Deathwing from unleashing hells heatKratos is strong enough to pierce indestrutable material? though i don't belive that, i will say just for now, yes he can, even if that were true, he can't cause enough damage in time. Same with Ryu
Cloud might get a few hits in, but he may as well not.
Super Sparda, the only power he i am unfamilar with, is it limited in anyway? be it power or a time limit? Even so, Deathwing could force him into the earths core.
Don't forget, size doesn't have to mean sloppy. And deathwing is not slow
2. Indestructible is subjective, Kratos is very strong, and combined with the almighty power of the Blade of Olympus(it singlehandedly ended the Great Titan War in one attack dude) he could do it. Ryu should be able to pierce him, but not to the extent of Kratos.
3. Cloud's normal strikes would not faze him, tho he could hurt him with Omnislash Ver. 5.
4. It makes Dante more powerful, and completely invulnerable, for a limited time, tho how limited I don't know.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Sting a bit? They would hurt like hell, tho I doubt they would one shot him.2. Indestructible is subjective, Kratos is very strong, and combined with the almighty power of the Blade of Olympus(it singlehandedly ended the Great Titan War in one attack dude) he could do it. Ryu should be able to pierce him, but not to the extent of Kratos.
3. Cloud's normal strikes would not faze him, tho he could hurt him with Omnislash Ver. 5.
4. It makes Dante more powerful, and completely invulnerable, for a limited time, tho how limited I don't know.
to be fair tho Kratos cnanot wield the power of the sword as much as Zues and that nuke attack zues does isnt going to be as effective against an agile dragon since the wave radius was low on the ground and Cloud..hmm...does omnislash just segment his sword into 5, surely each small fragment would be weaker than one stroke of the blade to Deathwing
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Sting a bit? They would hurt like hell, tho I doubt they would one shot him.2. Indestructible is subjective, Kratos is very strong, and combined with the almighty power of the Blade of Olympus(it singlehandedly ended the Great Titan War in one attack dude) he could do it. Ryu should be able to pierce him, but not to the extent of Kratos.
3. Cloud's normal strikes would not faze him, tho he could hurt him with Omnislash Ver. 5.
4. It makes Dante more powerful, and completely invulnerable, for a limited time, tho how limited I don't know.
Doubtful, mix his size with the fact he possess Demon Soul within him.
Unless you have proof it can cut through a material considered Indestructable i can't accept that opinion.
So, do you honestly believe they could seriously injure him with one attack?
I see, Well, that could be dangerous to Deathwing. But not amazingly so.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtKratos cannot use all of the abilities of it, but remember, the sword in GoW2 used by Kratos is stronger than it was when Zeus used it in the war, and all of that power is still in every swing. Omnislash Ver. 5 did not even cut Seph, the damage was internal or spiritual.
to be fair tho Kratos cnanot wield the power of the sword as much as Zues and that nuke attack zues does isnt going to be as effective against an agile dragon since the wave radius was low on the ground and Cloud..hmm...does omnislash just segment his sword into 5, surely each small fragment would be weaker than one stroke of the blade to Deathwing
Originally posted by Remindme1. Well, they would not be minor, those wounds would add up.
Doubtful, mix his size with the fact he possess Demon Soul within him.Unless you have proof it can cut through a material considered Indestructable i can't accept that opinion.
So, do you honestly believe they could seriously injure him with one attack?
I see, Well, that could be dangerous to Deathwing. But not amazingly so.
2. The fact that it is indestructible, has the power of two Gods(Zeus put his own power into it when he forged it) and Kratos is strong as f*ck.
3. No, but those wounds would add up.
4. I don't know a whole lot about Dante, but one thing you should know is he is amazingly fast.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Kratos cannot use all of the abilities of it, but remember, the sword in GoW2 used by Kratos is stronger than it was when Zeus used it in the war, and all of that power is still in every swing. Omnislash Ver. 5 did not even cut Seph, the damage was internal or spiritual.
not neccerily stronger, i mean during the war it was fresh from zues powering it, and it looks like zues was prepping it for that attack after a long while, since it floated from the skies, so it would either need fresh energy from zues, be in zues hands or only when it was first created to have the power it showed..
i mean after Kratos had powered the blade its extent of damage was only to make a fairly small wound in the side of the colossus of rhodes, an unimpressive feat so Kratos must not have much power with the blade or its actually grown weaker over the time its had after the titan wars, although id go with the former
Originally posted by Burning thoughtKratos just can't control it's power, it still has more slashing power than it did during the war.
not neccerily stronger, i mean during the war it was fresh from zues powering it, and it looks like zues was prepping it for that attack after a long while, since it floated from the skies, so it would either need fresh energy from zues, be in zues hands or only when it was first created to have the power it showed..i mean after Kratos had powered the blade its extent of damage was only to make a fairly small wound in the side of the colossus of rhodes, an unimpressive feat so Kratos must not have much power with the blade or its actually grown weaker over the time its had after the titan wars, although id go with the former
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Well, they would not be minor, those wounds would add up.2. The fact that it is indestructible, has the power of two Gods(Zeus put his own power into it when he forged it) and Kratos is strong as f*ck.
3. No, but those wounds would add up.
4. I don't know a whole lot about Dante, but one thing you should know is he is amazingly fast.
A 2 foot arrow in a dragon over 10 times bigger than anything Link has fought. Explain this please
Like a sword slashing a shield, the effect is neutral. Any power is also neutralised by Demon Soul
Wounds? I don't see any proof that Ryu's attack penetrate the scales
How fast? like......100 slashes a second fast or, move like a rocket fast?
Originally posted by Remindme1. It is pure light energy that pierces evil. Deathwing is evil.
A 2 foot arrow in a dragon over 10 times bigger than anything Link has fought. Explain this pleaseLike a sword slashing a shield, the effect is neutral. Any power is also neutralised by Demon Soul
Wounds? I don't see any proof that Ryu's attack penetrate the scales
How fast? like......100 slashes a second fast or, move like a rocket fast?
2. Explain Demon Soul to me.
3. With a normal sword Ryu cuts jets in half, the TDS is no normal sword.
4. Like so fast he has a swordfight with his bro in the rain, and only gets wet when they lock swords. Also, he has ridden a rocket fired at him.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. It is pure light energy that pierces evil. Deathwing is evil.2. Explain Demon Soul to me.
3. With a normal sword Ryu cuts jets in half, the TDS is no normal sword.
4. Like so fast he has a swordfight with his bro in the rain, and only gets wet when they lock swords. Also, he has ridden a rocket fired at him.
True, the more potent the evil the more potent the arrow. Though Deathwing is evil, a betrayer, he is not like Ganon or Sargeras, his intention is not evil, it's control, Thus the arrows damage is more limited than it's usual awesomenessisms
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At some point shortly before the War of the Ancients, Neltharion used his own essence and the skills of his goblin artificer-servants to create an artifact of incredible power, in order to combat the invading forces of the Burning Legion. However - possibly due to his corruption by the Old Gods, who sought freedom from their imprisonment by the Titans eons earlier - Neltharion also wished to use it to control the other Dragonflights, and make himself a god to be worshipped by the mortal races. However, during an accidental cave-in that tore a scale from his body, Neltharion found that his matter - even as small as a scale - could damage the Soul (which it did), and thus he had to take great care to avoid damaging it. When it was ready, Neltharion revealed his creation to his fellow Aspects, and convinced them to not only give their own essences, but also the essences of their entire flights. Thus, every single dragon gave of themselves to power this creation...with the exception of Neltharion himself.In the last combined flight of the dragons of Azeroth against the Burning Legion, Neltharion arrayed the dragons of all the other flights into a magical matrix that enhanced the device's power greatly. During this battle, Neltharion revealed his madness and used the Dragon Soul to wreak havoc on both the Burning Legion and the hapless night elves, demanding that all of Azeroth, including the other dragon flights and the Great Aspects, bow to his mastery. Malygos, the Aspect of Magic, and his Blue Dragonflight attempted to stop Neltharion, who summarily executed the entirety of the blue flight with the exception of Malygos himself. The other dragons were locked in Neltharion's control until the unexpected intervention of Korialstrasz broke his concentration and allowed the other dragons to counter-attack. Though the ranks of the Dragonflights were decimated, Neltharion was forced to retreat from the field of battle, taking the Dragon Soul with him.
How can you compare cutting jets that are built for speed and only need tiny damage to be destroy to cutting through Adamantium?
So very impressing reaction speed and reflexes. Still, Super Sparda would be the interesting part