Cloud, Dante, Ryu & Kratos VS Deathwing the Destroyer

Originally posted by Csdabest
Oh also i just look it up. Their adamantium is latin word of adamant Which is Daimound. Which can be broken. And cut through via superheated. Thats from all the warcraft information I have looked up. from multiple sites. The armor is diamond adamant in latin terms being alled Adamanitum. And Diamounds are not industructible. Just because all the characters In the World of Warcraft universe dont have the ability to break through it doesnt mean other characters from other universes cant break through it.

Diamond or Adamant, or Adamantium or latin,american, whatever lanquage you decide to use is breakable.

If it is the same adamantium from the Marvel universe please explain how people in warcraft crafted it from alien technology. If they didnt the only other adamantium is the diamond which the WOW info clearly states is diamond also called adamant from the latin word Adamantium.

lolI feel like i repeated byself like 3 times in this single post lol

BS.. There's nothing known about Warcraft adamantium.. You are looking at something entirely different.. Unless you have an official blizzard source that says it's diamonds.. Because it isnt..

Does this look like diamonds to you?

http://www.wowwiki.com/images/6/6d/Ornate_Adamantium_Breastplate.JPG

It ISNT from the marvel universe!!! It's a warcraft matter.. Marvel doesn't have exclusive right on matters with similar names..

Originally posted by Csdabest
For other uses of adamant, adamantium, and similar terms, see Adamant (disambiguation).
Look up Adamant in
Wiktionary, the free dictionary.Adamant and similar words are used to refer to any especially hard substance, whether composed of diamond, some other gemstone, or some type of metal. Both adamant and diamond derive from the Greek word áäáìáò (adamas), meaning "untameable". Adamantite and adamantium (a metallic name derived from the Neo-Latin ending -ium) are also common variants.

Throughout ancient history, "adamantine" referred to anything that was made of a very hard material. Virgil describes Tartarus as having a screeching gate protected by columns of solid adamantine (Aeneid book VI). Later, by the Middle Ages, the term came to refer to diamond, as it was the hardest material then known.

It was in the Middle Ages, too, that adamantine hardness and the lodestone's magnetic properties became confused and combined, leading to an alternate definition in which "adamant" means magnet, falsely derived from the Latin adamare, which means to love or be attached to.[1] Another connection was the belief that adamant (the diamond definition) could block the effects of a magnet. This was addressed in chapter III of Pseudodoxia Epidemica, for instance.

Since the word diamond is now used for the hardest gemstone, the increasingly archaic "adamant" — and its adjectival form "adamantine" — has a mostly poetic or figurative use. In that capacity, the name is frequently used in popular media and fiction to refer to a very hard

Come again???

And where in this quote did it say "warcraft" "neltharion" or "fictional universe"?

I'm going to save myself some time, and Co-sign all Darth Extecute's posts

Considering that adamant-adamantium was also used in Middle age it can only be assumed with good reason its the same type.

And if you didnt know diamound can take many forms, colors, shades and textures. Diamound does not only look like a shiny stone on a ring.

Originally posted by Csdabest
assumed

Excuse me? did you just say you assume it? So you DONT have an official source that states otherwise.. I see.. Well, glad we got that sorted out..

Now if you excuse me, I'll go read about Neltharions indestructable skin again..

So unless you want to completely change the description of the word Adamantium and its material, or bring evidence how they make their adamantium which is clearly diamound using a dictionary. If not then then all types of metal in the game are not the metals of our world. Steel is not the same steel. Wood is not the same wood. Come on now.

I will agree if you can magically change the description or show proof of what they made their adamantium of. Untill then the offical description stands. Unless your willing to say its the adamantium from Marvel

Originally posted by Csdabest
So unless you want to completely change the description of the word Adamantium and its material, or bring evidence how they make their adamantium which is clearly diamound using a dictionary. If not then then all types of metal in the game are not the metals of our world. Steel is not the same steel. Wood is not the same wood. Come on now.

I will agree if you can magically change the description or show proof of what they made their adamantium of. Untill then the offical description stands. Unless your willing to say its the adamantium from Marvel

There are thousands of things if the wacraft verse thats not in our world. What your saying is absurd

Originally posted by Csdabest
So unless you want to completely change the description of the word Adamantium and its material, or bring evidence how they make their adamantium which is clearly diamound using a dictionary. If not then then all types of metal in the game are not the metals of our world. Steel is not the same steel. Wood is not the same wood. Come on now.

I will agree if you can magically change the description or show proof of what they made their adamantium of. Untill then the offical description stands. Unless your willing to say its the adamantium from Marvel

Adamantium also means magnet.. Which is taken from the same source that you used.. I guess all metal will now be drawn to Neltharion.. WOAH! What just happened?

Did Ryu drop his sword? Did Dante drop his sword and gun? Did Cloud drop his badass sword? oh

Where did they go? Oh, I see.. They got stuck on Neltharion's magnetical skin..

Yes and you forget that their metallic weapons are not the only offensice they can use. If they its adamantium then swords might or might not work, they still have their magic abilities. Ryu Ninpo, Kratos his mythological magic, And Oh Ryu sword is not of metal. it was clearly staed to be carved out of the bones of a Dragon. Bone does not equal metal. Plasama sword not metal. Superheated Plasama. Cloud still has his magic with his materia. And dante is still dante

Originally posted by Csdabest
Yes and you forget that their metallic weapons are not the only offensice they can use. If they its adamantium then swords might or might not work, they still have their magic abilities. Ryu Ninpo, Kratos his mythological magic, And Oh Ryu sword is not of metal. it was clearly staed to be carved out of the bones of a Dragon. Bone does not equal metal. Plasama sword not metal. Superheated Plasama. Cloud still has his magic with his materia. And dante is still dante

Too bad you didn't do your research.. Or you'd know that magic isn't very effective against Neltharion..

He eliminated the blue dragon race.. Leaving Malygos, but go figure..

No matter what counter you bring up, Neltharion can counter it.. He didn't drive back hundreds of dragons from five different races with all special abilities, adapted for different situations, along with putting fear into the Burning Legion.. Which means not even Archimonde couldn't stop him..

And Archimonde can with a wave of a finger crush a grown dragon..

Malygos > Dante, Ryu, Kratos and Cloud together, when it comes to magic..

ime not sure about the malygos beating all their magic but regardless this is spite, sillyness coming from Csdabest is insulting to people who actually debate....

um Says who. Different universal laws. Ryu pretty much the strongest in his universe. Dante basicaly the strongest in his universe. Kratos....Almost the strongest in his universe. You dont know how good the characters magical abilites from WOW would tranfer to this universe. I never said that they would win. Im clearly stating the fact that Everyone is overrating Deathwing and underestimating the four. I know deathwing will mostlikely win as i stated in my above posts. Im not arguing the winner. Im arguing the huge power slant that people are saying their is. Because if Deathwing was really that powerfull then their would be no point in World of Warcraft. Saying a single character from one universe will mop up the four....three(Cloud sucks) best characters from other universes with ease is absurd. Special due to the feats of the characters. All who have escaped death situations and have came back from the dead. Your giving too much credit to deathwing and not enough credit to the other warriors from other universes.

Originally posted by Burning thought
ime not sure about the malygos beating all their magic but regardless this is spite, sillyness coming from Csdabest is insulting to people who actually debate....

Malygos got his powers from Norgannon.. And I do believe Malygos outshines those people when it comes to magic.. Magic is Malygos life.. And he's darn good at it.. Lord of Magic, even..

Originally posted by Burning thought
ime not sure about the malygos beating all their magic but regardless this is spite, sillyness coming from Csdabest is insulting to people who actually debate....

How is anything im saying sillyness. Its sillyness by denying the only two forms of adamantium. Its sillyness to argue the definition of the word adamantium. Its sillyness to say other universes characters are cannon fooder in another universe which is also insulting. And I am debating. I have backed my arguments with evidence. Speicaly the definition of adamantium. And What plasama is. and Informed that the magnetic effect would not work aginst Ryu's sword because it is made out of dragon bone. Not metal. So please explain where i am being silly?

Csdabest your missing big points....kratos=usless since he cant fly..no good for it, his powers a minimal, weak lighting he launches and he loses that in GOW 2 in the sword and has Typhons bane as his only real ranged wep.....Cloud is usless completly, by himself he cant reach Deaths height..dont be absurd please, Deathwing could just rupture the land and call volcanoes, Cloud will melt along with Kratos, Ryu as well...

Dante is the only guy here who has a chance of dealing some damage and he is limited in flight as well, Deathwing is no fool and is not a big slow thing, he could simply keep his mouth closed and then if Datne tires to get in hes going to be destryoed in lava

your being mostly silly by trying to debate that Deathwings armour is made of Diamond...then saying its magnetic, sillyness

Originally posted by Csdabest
um Says who. Different universal laws. Ryu pretty much the strongest in his universe. Dante basicaly the strongest in his universe. Kratos....Almost the strongest in his universe. You dont know how good the characters magical abilites from WOW would tranfer to this universe. I never said that they would win. Im clearly stating the fact that Everyone is overrating Deathwing and underestimating the four. I know deathwing will mostlikely win as i stated in my above posts. Im not arguing the winner. Im arguing the huge power slant that people are saying their is. Because if Deathwing was really that powerfull then their would be no point in World of Warcraft. Saying a single character from one universe will mop up the four....three(Cloud sucks) best characters from other universes with ease is absurd. Special due to the feats of the characters. All who have escaped death situations and have came back from the dead. Your giving too much credit to deathwing and not enough credit to the other warriors from other universes.

I'm sure these four would woop the floor with many from the warcraft universe.. But we also has to consider the circumstances.. They are fighting a lava-breathing as good as indestructable, magic resistant dragon aspect, blessed with power of the four other dragon aspects..

Which means, he holds power from all Pantheon.. His main field is of course earth, but he is horribly powerful..

Ah.. And the one blessing Neltharion.. Who granted Neltharion parts of his powers.. Khaz'goroth.. At 1%, Khaz'goroth would probably beat these fours.. And he definatly empowered him with more than 1%..

People may think I'm over-rating the Warcraft characters.. Because of all the times I take their sides and "over-rate" them.. But honestly.. Look trough the characters that people create threads about.. They are all horribly powerful..

If Remindme would have made a thread with Malygos, or Nozdormu or possibly Ysera ((If she doens't have homefield advantage)) then the four might have won..

But this is Neltharion, with the demon soul..

Like I said. Kratos has his horse Pegasu to move around. Ryu has more than one manuversed around crazed obsticles. Used his ninpo to levitate rock enabeling him to fly around. Cloud...Well im not sure if he cant actualy fly with Aero. He was flying in advent children. And by saying that all Deathwing has to do is...You saying that as if they are really just going to watch a big monstrous creature stand their and blast them. Your too biased on the situation making it seem like the four are retarted.

I know. But im not arguing the fact that the four would win. Im saying it would be a better fight then saying one blast everyone is dead. i know deathwing would win 8/10 to 9/10. Im arguing the fact that it would be a better fight than people are making it out to be.

the four dont need to be retarded, but theres nothing their going to do if the Dragon takes flight into the clouds so they cant even see him and then causes the battlefield to rupture with all kinds of tectonic activity, volacnoes and lava, if Ryu tries to levitate a rock, Deathwing will melt it to lava and thats the end of Ryu, kratos pegasus is not powerful nor is it fast, it will end up just allowing Neltharian to blast at a larger target immolating the pegasus, not to menstion it was not stated Kratos has the horse anyway.

Deathwing has incredible power over earth, he doesnt need to fire anything, he could simply will it, and the volcanoes and earthquakes happen while hes safely up in the clouds..which is why it would be easy for him

Originally posted by Csdabest
Like I said. Kratos has his horse Pegasu to move around. Ryu has more than one manuversed around crazed obsticles. Used his ninpo to levitate rock enabeling him to fly around. Cloud...Well im not sure if he cant actualy fly with Aero. He was flying in advent children. And by saying that all Deathwing has to do is...You saying that as if they are really just going to watch a big monstrous creature stand their and blast them. Your too biased on the situation making it seem like the four are retarted.

He wasnt flying.. He was thrown..

And that's almost all they could do.. Neltharion is the master of earth.. he'd crumble the rock that Ryu uses to fly with..

The flying horse would be hamburger.. It's not as agile as this dragon, even if it's smaller..

The four aren't retarded.. But the master of earth isn't exactly a fool either.. He tricked the four aspects without them suspecting anything.. He forged the most powerful magical object of existance..

So dont think he's not a smart being..

If they were going to move by obstacles.. They'd be screwed.. Neltharion would shape the land to suit him the best in the fight..