Cloud, Dante, Ryu & Kratos VS Deathwing the Destroyer

Originally posted by Remindme
True, the more potent the evil the more potent the arrow. Though Deathwing is evil, a betrayer, he is not like Ganon or Sargeras, his intention is not evil, it's control, Thus the arrows damage is more limited than it's usual awesomenessisms

How can you compare cutting jets that are built for speed and only need tiny damage to be destroy to cutting through Adamantium?

So very impressing reaction speed and reflexes. Still, Super Sparda would be the interesting part

2. That sounds cool, but where does it say that they neutralize all magic?

3. Normal swords can't cut jets without great strength like Ryu, and the TDS increases his power and cutting power greatly, and is very effective against evil.

4. Yes, he is very fast, and has fought things big like Deathwing(Mundus) and is capable of dodging most of Deathwing's attacks. I don't know much about Sparda form other than what I gave you.

1. He thinks Dragons are the only morale being and only they deserve to exist...or something on those lines if i remember correctly

2. Well it doesn't. However, all dragons put their power into it. Malygos is the aspect that rules over magic.... I did the math

3. very effective against evil? sounds a bit too clichè for SF but okie dokie. Still not proving it can cut through something so hard. Has he cut through something like Adamantium before?

4. I'm assuming Mundus is the creature that come from the building in the city. Firstly, Deathwing is about 7-8 times bigger. Secondly that things AI was awful, can't compare avoiding that to dodging deathwings attacks

Originally posted by Remindme
1. He thinks Dragons are the only morale being and only they deserve to exist...or something on those lines if i remember correctly

2. Well it doesn't. However, all dragons put their power into it. Malygos is the aspect that rules over magic.... I did the math

3. very effective against evil? sounds a bit too clichè for SF but okie dokie. Still not proving it can cut through something so hard. Has he cut through something like Adamantium before?

4. I'm assuming Mundus is the creature that come from the building in the city. Firstly, Deathwing is about 7-8 times bigger. Secondly that things AI was awful, can't compare avoiding that to dodging deathwings attacks

2. That's not really good enough IMO, that does not mean he is immune to magic.

3. SF? This is DOA/NG Ryu Hayabusa mane. He is very strong, the TDS increases his power greatly, and is very effective against evil. I am not a Busa expert however, Shin Gear and SBP know more.

4. That's gameplay mechanics dude.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. So he's a loon? Well, he's still evil, Ganon is f*ckin psychotic and is still harmed by them.

2. That's not really good enough IMO, that does not mean he is immune to magic.

3. SF? This is DOA/NG Ryu Hayabusa mane. He is very strong, the TDS increases his power greatly, and is very effective against evil. I am not a Busa expert however, Shin Gear and SBP know more.

4. That's gameplay mechanics dude.

I guess that depends on your opinion, like people who say Gouki has never commited sin because he kills by a code. killing is killing in my book, murder is a sin. Evil is subjective.

It means within him is the powers of all magics in the world. Thus any magic is very ineffective. Plus the dragon hide you know how resistant they are naturally anyway

Well i did make the thread so don't tell me which Ryu it is. But i don't mind anyways. Simple answer, evil is subjective.

Exactly my point, Fighting Mundus would be nothing like fighting Deathwing

Originally posted by Remindme
I guess that depends on your opinion, like people who say Gouki has never commited sin because he kills by a code. killing is killing in my book, murder is a sin. Evil is subjective.

It means within him is the powers of all magics in the world. Thus any magic is very ineffective. Plus the dragon hide you know how resistant they are naturally anyway

Well i did make the thread so don't tell me which Ryu it is. But i don't mind anyways. Simple answer, evil is subjective.

Exactly my point, Fighting Mundus would be nothing like fighting Deathwing

2. I know Dragon Hide is ineffective, but you also have to consider that light arrows is a very new concept to the Warcraft world, he is not a master of that.

3. Oh, sorry lol. I was under the impression this was DOA Ryu. Wow, ummmmm this match just got worse, it would be better if it was DOA Ryu.

4. No dude, Mundus had bad AI in gameplay only, in actuality the fight was likely much different.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Well, by that logic, I could blame all of Ganon's crimes on his mental instability, which would not make him the king of evil, but he is, alot of the things he does is influenced by it, why is Deathwing any different?

2. I know Dragon Hide is ineffective, but you also have to consider that light arrows is a very new concept to the Warcraft world, he is not a master of that.

3. Oh, sorry lol. I was under the impression this was DOA Ryu. Wow, ummmmm this match just got worse, it would be better if it was DOA Ryu.

4. No dude, Mundus had bad AI in gameplay only, in actuality the fight was likely much different.

Because an arrow can kill a man, fact. An arrow can't penetrate a dragon of Deathwings size skin. I understand the Arrows a mean vs evil but, they are just that, arrows. I just think the combined protection of Demon Soul and him being a dragon would be enough to sheild most/all of the damage they potentially can do

Priests/paladins wield the power of pure light, the holy element, magic in the Warcraft verse

Nah it's okay, you can use whatever Ryu you think is most suited

I see, but it's the way lava is going to change the battlefield is why i believe Deathwing wins. Plus he can kinda make the ground ooze lava too. That is why he wins (In my humble opinion)

Adamantium is virtually industrucible. If it was truly industructible then it couldnt not be molded or bent. Magneto in the marvel universe bent wolverine adamantium skeleton. If it can bend it can break. In order to mold adamantium you first need to melt it down. So adamantium would be vulnerable to heat. And you know what is very hot. Plasma Sword mk. II. Plasama is extremely hot and can peirce any metel. Well not peirce. melt through it. its like a light saber if being compared to anything. So far lightsabers can peirce through anything except that one weird metal. but anyways Adamantium can be bent and melted through with extreme intesities of heat. The dragons armor would get dented in or melted through. Since its its skin it would be extremely painfail. And if the scales are made up of adamntium whats from stoping them from for uplifting the scales and stabbing under it.

You got a Greek God, A Super demon/God slayer uber fest of a ninja, Practically one of the strongest demons. then you have Cloud. Meh....

Oh if Ryu(SF) was invovled it would be over kill. Shun Goku Satsu. That would instantly kill the dragon. It doesnt attack physical..It attack spiritualy.

Im not saying the four would win. Im saying give them more credit.

Also You cant tell me Marvel are not wrighting Warcraft creatures and characters. If not Adamantium is under Marvel and it would be a huge copyright infringement. But anywyas. I have no desicion on this

Originally posted by Remindme
Because an arrow can kill a man, fact. An arrow can't penetrate a dragon of Deathwings size skin. I understand the Arrows a mean vs evil but, they are just that, arrows. I just think the combined protection of Demon Soul and him being a dragon would be enough to sheild most/all of the damage they potentially can do

Priests/paladins wield the power of pure light, the holy element, magic in the Warcraft verse

Nah it's okay, you can use whatever Ryu you think is most suited

I see, but it's the way lava is going to change the battlefield is why i believe Deathwing wins. Plus he can kinda make the ground ooze lava too. That is why he wins (In my humble opinion)

He's adamantium from outside, right? His insides are still normal?

In that case Dante a)transforms in his high demonic form (Sparda/Super Sparda)- fight with Mundus shows that he can be in that form for as long as it's needed and limit on DT is just a game mechanics (getting highh demonic aura (red aura form DMC1 end) with your costumes solves that problem completely)
b)deleberately flies INSIDE Deathwing (he's dealt with lava creatures\fire elementals before and with ease, so hostile surrounding isn't such a huge problem to him).
c)blasts Deathwing with demonic energy (in DMC2 the chest blast in high demonic form is pretty much an instant kill for any enemy, so a couple of those would definetely f*ck up dragon's insides).

Seems a bit freaky, but it helps to solve the whole unbreakable skin problem.

I think Deathwing has lava on the inside as well 🙂

As his skin cracked, lava was revealed. So his inside is basically lava as well, I believe 😄

So fighting him from the inside might hurt shockyes

As for you Violent2Dope and Remindme! That quote is most likely very proper, so what we have there is a great example of Deathwing almost eliminating an entire magical race that is blessed with the powers of magic from the pantheon themselves. The blue dragons are basically pure magic. If he can on his own stand toe and destroy that race as well as battle the actual aspect of that element, then I believe he will do quite well against any magical attacks 😛

Csdabest. This is not the same material that is used in the Marvel universe shockno

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
[b]I think Deathwing has lava on the inside as well 🙂

As his skin cracked, lava was revealed. So his inside is basically lava as well, I believe 😄

So fighting him from the inside might hurt shockyes

As for you Violent2Dope and Remindme! That quote is most likely very proper, so what we have there is a great example of Deathwing almost eliminating an entire magical race that is blessed with the powers of magic from the pantheon themselves. The blue dragons are basically pure magic. If he can on his own stand toe and destroy that race as well as battle the actual aspect of that element, then I believe he will do quite well against any magical attacks 😛

Csdabest. This is not the same material that is used in the Marvel universe shockno [/B]

Dante fought in lava surroundings, and in high demonic form he's almost completely immune to environment\elemental attacks.
Even in regular demonic form Devil Triggering with Ifrit turns him into sort of elemental of fire\magma (he channels the demonic embodiment of said element into himself).

And how exactly will Dante get into Deathwing's stomach? 😛

He will not exactly be waiting on the ground with his mouth open 😇

By flying right into his mouth. In high demonic form Dante can fly, to breath the stream of lava Deathwing has to open his mouth and then...

Deathwing may be big and clumsy, but I do not think he is a fool 😛

How long would this high demonic form last? 🙂

In first fight with Mundus it's shown that it has no time limit aside from game mechanics, so...long enough to deal a good deal of damage to poor dragon.

Anyways, the ability to fly in demonic/high demonic form is an additional advantahge, especially given Dante's supersonic speed.

I guess Dante is the hope and dreams of the dragonslayers then 😄

Because I do not care how strong or powerful those others are. They can not fly and the magical arrow of Link, it is clearly over-rated.

Link fights evil. If basing it on the strength that Violent2Dope claims it to have, Link could basically walk around one-shotting all foes in the Zelda games and complete it in no-time 😛

Even the bosses shrug

Because I believe:

Deathwing > Zelda Bosses!

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
[b]I guess Dante is the hope and dreams of the dragonslayers then 😄

Because I do not care how strong or powerful those others are. They can not fly and the magical arrow of Link, it is clearly over-rated.

Link fights evil. If basing it on the strength that Violent2Dope claims it to have, Link could basically walk around one-shotting all foes in the Zelda games and complete it in no-time 😛

Even the bosses shrug

Because I believe:

Deathwing > Zelda Bosses! [/B]

According to DMC4 trailer, they plan to include a huge firebreathing dragon as one of the bosses. So we're probably going to see Dante in dragonslayer role and watch how he's really good at defeating the dragons.

some of this is not quite true, Dante fell out of Devil mode in the cutscene, not just in gameplay, obviously he has no unlimited supply for the obvious reasons otherwise he would use it in the cutscenes, his Devil mode is on a limit, although the limit is unknown.

as for going inside Deathwing, his burning insides would incinerate Dante, Dante wont have enough time in high demonic sparda form to survive getting into Deathwing AND fighting inside of him, Deathwings quite vast himself, only leviathons inner body does not have lava

so really this is unlikely to be a winnable battle what with constant streams of lava breath, volcanos and lava across the battlefield and earthquakes and Deathwing moving overhead

I thought someone already suggested Danteing going in the mouth?

Deathwing has Demon Soul within him, a Artifact of incredible power even in the Warcraft verse, Dante is half demon? here's what happened to the last demon that touched it.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Neltharion captured a demon of the Burning Legion during the War of the Ancients and placed the Dragon Soul on its forehead. The demon was consumed, leaving just his ashes and skull. Neltharion removed the disc from the remains of the demon's skull

As for him being immune to elemental attacks, do you have proof he can survive contact with lava?

And finally, it isn't the same Adamantium, deathwing had to use the power of demon soul to help craft it.

Originally posted by Remindme
Okay, seems the last thread i made vs Deathwing was a mismatch 😖

Lets try this:

Cloud
Dante
Ryu
Kratos

VS

Deathwing the Destroyer

What? No videos on Deathwing?

Nope, only biography.

He hasn't been used in the main Warcraft plot for ages, so nope, no videos