find me one top tier he defeated.show me Superman, Wonder Woman, Hal, any of them being KO'ed by Prime
1. Wonder Woman and Red Tornado were KOed just by Prime CRASHING INTO THE GROUND
2. He defeated J'onn and Powergirl at the same time in IC#6. You see him hit J'onn once (possibly one-shotting him) then Powergirl attacks him as Brother Eye says to Batman how they will fall. Then neither of them are seen again in the comic and they're inactive as Prime fights Kon. It's very obvious that he KOed J'onn and Powergirl. He possibly one-shotted J'onn from the looks of it.
3. In IC#7 he tore a hole in Breach, possibly killing him and/or sending him to another universe. Breach owned J'onn and did well against Superman and J'onn at the same time.
4. In IC#7 he pretty much had Guy at his mercy before Hal saved him, then had Hal at his mercy before the Supermen saved him
i'll be waiting
oh and he didn't beat Ion fairly because Ion was weakened and a novice with the Ion powe
Who cares? Sodam Yat is above top tier when he's just a Daxamite with a GL ring. When he's a Daxamite with Ion power, stated to be "the greatest weapon" of the Guardians, it's obvious he's intended to be Skyfather level in power.
This is aside from things like a weakened SBP treating J'onn like a baby and blowing a hole through Superma. Or how he laughed off charged punches from Black Adam, who ambushed him. Or how he tossed off all those heroes trying to restrain him at the same time. Or how casually he destroyed The Anti-Monitor, who was still obviously above top tier. Or how he owned Superman, Kilowog, and Powergirl at the same time. Or how he hurt a Guardian, shrugged off their blasts, and one had to commit suicide to incapacitate him for a brief time.
The way he's being treated, he's like Mangog with Superman's powerset. It doesn't seem like anyone in the DCU below cosmics is a match for him physically.
and the Red Shirt alternate universe heroes don't count as top tiers because they have no feats to say they are
I'll let this go since he's currently powered up, but honestly it's naive to think they were mid tiers or some other crap like that. When mainstream reality characters meet alternate reality versions, they're almost always portrayed as similar in power. If we read between the lines a little, it's EXTREMELY obvious that the point of the scene was to show how easily SBP could destroy all of the DCU's heroes and Earth if extreme measures aren't taken against him. Aside from the whole kidnapping Mxyzyptlk and breaking The Source Wall thing.
Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
1. Wonder Woman and Red Tornado were KOed just by Prime CRASHING INTO THE GROUND2. He defeated J'onn and Powergirl at the same time in IC#6. You see him hit J'onn once (possibly one-shotting him) then Powergirl attacks him as Brother Eye says to Batman how they will fall. Then neither of them are seen again in the comic and they're inactive as Prime fights Kon. It's very obvious that he KOed J'onn and Powergirl. He possibly one-shotted J'onn from the looks of it.
3. In IC#7 he tore a hole in Breach, possibly killing him and/or sending him to another universe. Breach owned J'onn and did well against Superman and J'onn at the same time.
4. In IC#7 he pretty much had Guy at his mercy before Hal saved him, then had Hal at his mercy before the Supermen saved him
Who cares? Sodam Yat is above top tier when he's just a Daxamite with a GL ring. When he's a Daxamite with Ion power, stated to be "the greatest weapon" of the Guardians, it's obvious he's intended to be Skyfather level in power.
This is aside from things like a weakened SBP treating J'onn like a baby and blowing a hole through Superma. Or how he laughed off charged punches from Black Adam, who ambushed him. Or how he tossed off all those heroes trying to restrain him at the same time. Or how casually he destroyed The Anti-Monitor, who was still obviously above top tier. Or how he owned Superman, Kilowog, and Powergirl at the same time. Or how he hurt a Guardian, shrugged off their blasts, and one had to commit suicide to incapacitate him for a brief time.
The way he's being treated, he's like Mangog with Superman's powerset. It doesn't seem like anyone in the DCU below cosmics is a match for him physically.
I'll let this go since he's currently powered up, but honestly it's naive to think they were mid tiers or some other crap like that. When mainstream reality characters meet alternate reality versions, they're almost always portrayed as similar in power. If we read between the lines a little, it's EXTREMELY obvious that the point of the scene was to show how easily SBP could destroy all of the DCU's heroes and Earth if extreme measures aren't taken against him. Aside from the whole kidnapping Mxyzyptlk and breaking The Source Wall thing.
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Thanos has always lost when he has gone one on one with Skyfather level beings and above. In two pages (before power up) prime defeats a guardian and the antimoniter. In countdown (post power up) he proceeds to break through the source wall and "lay the smack down" on a 5D imp. I know it's my second post, but, i'm left wondering why the hell is this thread even being debated? 😕
Originally posted by Dick GraysonBecuz you left important details out about what really happened. First off Thanos lost to Tyrant and was losing to Odin but really never lost to him and took his blows for over 7 pages. He has a tempoaray powerup up and had Zatannas help in depowering him. I mean how could you leave that out. 😆
Thanos has always lost when he has gone one on one with Skyfather level beings and above. In two pages (before power up) prime defeats a guardian and the antimoniter. In countdown (post power up) he proceeds to break through the source wall and "lay the smack down" on a 5D imp. I know it's my second post, but, i'm left wondering why the hell is this thread even being debated? 😕
AM was bfred after he took a huge explosion. Prime did just toss him into space but it wasnt like Am was fresh.
So please dont leave out these important details next time.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Becuz you left important details out about what really happened. First off Thanos lost to Tyrant and was losing to Odin but really never lost to him and took his blows for over 7 pages. He has a tempoaray powerup up and had Zatannas help in depowering him. I mean how could you leave that out. 😆AM was bfred after he took a huge explosion. Prime did just toss him into space but it wasnt like Am was fresh.
So please dont leave out these important details next time.
You're not really disagreeing with me.
So Thanos lost to a being above skyfather and was going to lose to a skyfather.
Originally posted by Dick Grayson
Thanos has always lost when he has gone one on one with Skyfather level beings and above. In two pages (before power up) prime defeats a guardian and the antimoniter. In countdown (post power up) he proceeds to break through the source wall and "lay the smack down" on a 5D imp. I know it's my second post, but, i'm left wondering why the hell is this thread even being debated? 😕
Prime beat a skyfather level being and a being above skyfather and an imp (which is way up the food chain).
Originally posted by Dick Grayson
i'm left wondering why the hell is this thread even being debated? 😕
Still confused about why this is being debated. 😕
Originally posted by Dick Grayson
You're not really disagreeing with me.So Thanos lost to a being above skyfather and was going to lose to a skyfather.
Prime beat a skyfather level being and a being above skyfather and an imp (which is way up the food chain).
Still confused about why this is being debated. 😕
One more thing about main stream DC characters being more powerful than thier counterparts, They ARE NOT. In countdown to the arena, the ray's talk about how each is an exact match for the other. In the Hunt for the atom, every version of Superman and Wonder Woman they encounter has been able to *****, Donna and or Kyle.
Originally posted by Air Legend
Don't worry. You'll probably be banned soon enough anyways.
Why the hell would I be banned. Because i'm fair and balanced and not a Marvel fanboy? I get it, it's one of those boards, heavilly biased in favour of Marvel characters and as soon as someone says a DC character can win they are in trouble.
So you're a Thanos fan, good for you.
He loses here though, whether your board likes it or not!
Originally posted by Dick GraysonUhm he beat Mxy who was powerless becuz of another character not prime. Geez like Mxy is anything without his powers.
You're not really disagreeing with me.So Thanos lost to a being above skyfather and was going to lose to a skyfather.
Prime beat a skyfather level being and a being above skyfather and an imp (which is way up the food chain).
Still confused about why this is being debated. 😕
Prime beat Yats ass but he really is a poor excuse for a skyfather if he is considered one. He was beaten also becuz of his inexperience as Ion.
Thanos wins.
Originally posted by Dick GraysonHe doesnt lose here I dont know why you think he would but your entitled to your opinion. I choose to disagree as do others.
Why the hell would I be banned. Because i'm fair and balanced and not a Marvel fanboy? I get it, it's one of those boards, heavilly biased in favour of Marvel characters and as soon as someone says a DC character can win they are in trouble.So you're a Thanos fan, good for you.
He loses here though, whether your board likes it or not!
Originally posted by quanchi112
Uhm he beat Mxy who was powerless becuz of another character not prime. Geez like Mxy is anything without his powers.Prime beat Yats ass but he really is a poor excuse for a skyfather if he is considered one. He was beaten also becuz of his inexperience as Ion.
Thanos wins.
Originally posted by Dick Grayson
Why the hell would I be banned. Because i'm fair and balanced and not a Marvel fanboy? I get it, it's one of those boards, heavilly biased in favour of Marvel characters and as soon as someone says a DC character can win they are in trouble.So you're a Thanos fan, good for you.
He loses here though, whether your board likes it or not!
Originally posted by Dick Grayson
Why the hell would I be banned. Because i'm fair and balanced and not a Marvel fanboy? I get it, it's one of those boards, heavilly biased in favour of Marvel characters and as soon as someone says a DC character can win they are in trouble.So you're a Thanos fan, good for you.
He loses here though, whether your board likes it or not!