Originally posted by quanchi112
in superman returns he went to the er after he fell to earth. thay had to save him. this time the doctors fail.😉
What are you talking about? the needles coudn't pierce his skin.
The defibrullator backlashed when they tried to shock him.
SS got held down by a few leather straps in a government base, lol.
Originally posted by quanchi112
supes goes down harder than when luthors henchmen beat him down.
You say you take everything into account, and maybe you do (I cannot read your mind, thus i cannot ascribe to you what your thoughts/intentions are). However when you make posts like the one above it tends to portray a rather myopic sense of viewing things.
True, Luthor's thugs laid the whoopa$$ on Kal. No doubt about it. However, for you to state that I have to assume you watched the movie, and by watching the movie you know what had happened a FEW moments before they started wailing on Kal.
I believe I do not need to elaborate what happened, and that it makes sense why they were able to do what they did.
Thus it makes no sense for you to state that he got beat up by Luthor's thugs. It would be like me saying that (in a prior Superman movie ....can't recall if it is 2 or 3) Superman got beat up in a bar 'til he bled. That is true. What would be myopic would be me 'forgetting' to mention that when that happened he had lost ALL of his powers and was a mere human being.
Anyways, have a look at the following scan (which happened on panel BTW):
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i198/RaikouTheLightning/copthanos9yk.jpg
Now, I believe that gives me an excuse to post that pic on every 'Thanos vs' thread as an indicative point that Thanos can get owned. After all, if he got bl@@dy arrested by cops ......
However, if I look at the sheer extentity of Thanos showings then it becomes evident that that one scan is as worthy as a jug of warm spit.
Anyways, if you want to talk about Superman getting pwned by Lex's thugs on a Kryptonite land mass then maybe you should also consider Superman lifting that kryptonite-laden land mass to space.
Originally posted by grey fox
*Sigh*[B]Surfer cannot be physically separated from his board by force
I takes a Tachyon pulse to do so , anything else is useless. [/B]
Doctor doom emulating the energies of the surfer was able to use the board... with sufficient force johnny was able to remove doom from the board... so don't say it can't be done. They only way reed was sure surfer would be removed from the board would be with a tachyon pulse... maybe thats cause they couldn't generate the force necessarily as the combined johnny did.
Originally posted by spetznazthen u should consider louis and her new man saving his ass. and then u should consider the medical team sabving his life.
You say you take everything into account, and maybe you do (I cannot read your mind, thus i cannot ascribe to you what your thoughts/intentions are). However when you make posts like the one above it tends to portray a rather myopic sense of viewing things.True, Luthor's thugs laid the whoopa$$ on Kal. No doubt about it. However, for you to state that I have to assume you watched the movie, and by watching the movie you know what had happened a FEW moments before they started wailing on Kal.
I believe I do not need to elaborate what happened, and that it makes sense why they were able to do what they did.
Thus it makes no sense for you to state that he got beat up by Luthor's thugs. It would be like me saying that (in a prior Superman movie ....can't recall if it is 2 or 3) Superman got beat up in a bar 'til he bled. That is true. What would be myopic would be me 'forgetting' to mention that when that happened he had lost ALL of his powers and was a mere human being.
Anyways, have a look at the following scan (which happened on panel BTW):
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i198/RaikouTheLightning/copthanos9yk.jpg
Now, I believe that gives me an excuse to post that pic on every 'Thanos vs' thread as an indicative point that Thanos can get owned. After all, if he got bl@@dy arrested by cops ......
However, if I look at the sheer extentity of Thanos showings then it becomes evident that that one scan is as worthy as a jug of warm spit.
Anyways, if you want to talk about Superman getting pwned by Lex's thugs on a Kryptonite land mass then maybe you should also consider Superman lifting that kryptonite-laden land mass to space.
🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
then u should consider louis and her new man saving his ass. and then u should consider the medical team sabving his life.🙂
I'm sorry, but Louis wouldn't care about the Surfer.
And you're right, the Surfer would need a medical team, lol.
It would take Superman about a few seconds to take Surfer out.
Originally posted by Sirius77surfer heals on his own while superman needs a team of doctors and his friends to save his ass.
I'm sorry, but Louis wouldn't care about the Surfer.And you're right, the Surfer would need a medical team, lol.
It would take Superman about a few seconds to take Surfer out.
see the diff.
Originally posted by quanchi112
surfer heals on his own while superman needs a team of doctors and his friends to save his ass.see the diff.
Superman healed right after he got the Kryptonite taken out of his ribs.
Surfer is weak as sh** without his little board. Also, if Superskrull Jonny was able to knock Doom with Surfers powers off of his board, then Supes will do it with ridiculous ease.
It took four of them to lift a ferris wheel.
And four of them to beat Doom with the Surfers powers.
Superman can lift a ferris wheel by himself because he can lift an Island while Kryptonite poisoned.
See the difference.
Originally posted by quanchi112
then u should consider louis and her new man saving his ass. and then u should consider the medical team sabving his life.🙂
I have.
I've also considered that when that Kryptonite shard was removed from Superman he was alright.
I've also considered all the other feats he did (including feats that well within pre-crisis levels).
In much the same manner that when debating on Thanos threads I do not only consider one instance of Wolverine (bone-clawed I believe) slashing his back, or that of him being arrested by human cops in New York.
I also consider the other feats that the Mad Titan has done, and I easily discover that they greatly overwhelm scratches on the back by Wolvie and steel handcuffs from NY's finest.
Superman's feats easily negate the instances of him getting beaten up (*although that is not even necessary since the instances of him getting beaten/messed up/helped by humans were due to:
1) Being on an island partly comprised of Kryptonite
2) When he was 'saved' by Lois and her guy he had a shard of Kryptonite wedged in him (basically a kryptonite knife)
3) When he was in hospital it is because he had just come from hauling an island of kryptonite into space, and then falling to the ground
4) In SM2 0r 3 when he was beaten up by some dude in a bar he had given up his powers to be with Lois.)
However looking at his other feats it is easy to see that SM is at pre-crisis levels. To the extent that he can even control time (The movie Silver Surfer on the other hand is no where near his low-level comicbook levels, let alone his normal/better showings).
Originally posted by Sirius77
What?
He means ER, as in Emergency Rescue.
Originally posted by Sirius77
What are you talking about? the needles coudn't pierce his skin.
The defibrullator backlashed when they tried to shock him.SS got held down by a few leather straps in a government base, lol.
.....after having his power source completely cut off. Put Supes on a Red-sun dependent planet and he'd be held down by Leather straps.
Originally posted by rotiart
Doctor doom emulating the energies of the surfer was able to use the board... with sufficient force johnny was able to remove doom from the board... so don't say it can't be done. They only way reed was sure surfer would be removed from the board would be with a tachyon pulse... maybe thats cause they couldn't generate the force necessarily as the combined johnny did.
Johnny only Beat Surfer!Doom because he broke the two miniature tachyon generators keeping him (Doom) connected to the Board.
Originally posted by Ouallada
Does Doom with board = Surfer with board?
Possibly better, Doom was more aggressive with his power.
Originally posted by grey fox
He means ER, as in Emergency Rescue......after having his power source completely cut off. Put Supes on a Red-sun dependent planet and he'd be held down by Leather straps.
YouTube videoJohnny only Beat Surfer!Doom because he broke the two miniature tachyon generators keeping him (Doom) connected to the Board.
Possibly better, Doom was more aggressive with his power.
Emergency room [/Pedantry]
Anyway, I can't accept Doom being equal to or better than Surfer with his power. SS was obviously more in-tune with his power, and could simply summon the board as per the ending. In any case, if they got anything right about SS at all, it would be his pacifism. How Doom was knocked off his board is irrelevant to this debate. As I see it, Reed has the only valuable take on the situation.
Originally posted by Ouallada
Emergency room [/Pedantry]Anyway, I can't accept Doom being equal to or better than Surfer with his power. SS was obviously more in-tune with his power, and could simply summon the board as per the ending. In any case, if they got anything right about SS at all, it would be his pacifism. How Doom was knocked off his board is irrelevant to this debate. As I see it, Reed has the only valuable take on the situation.
All I'm trying to do is dispel the notion tat all it takes to De-power Surfer is to 'Punch him off his board'. All that does is waylay him as it returns, hell even Doom had it return to him !
