Sephiroth & Ganon vs Kefka & Vergil

Started by lightness5 pages

corrections

vergil>link>ganon. since he won many times and he's weaker.
vergil's basically too skilled for ganon to keep up with and is too hard to take down even if he gets him.

vergil beats seph too in terms of skill judging from his ac fight

by that logic, fire > ice > water, so fire triumphs water? Ganon > Virgil, superior magic, plus teleport = >>

You are aware he's mocking Cloud in that fight? heres him toying with the strongest members of SOLDIER befroe the events in FFVII
YouTube video

Spoiler:
He's still messing around, in this fight, he's going all out.

Can you spot the part where he uses two hands?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Ganon is the only true immortal here.

Expect Ganon has been killed in Zelda NES, A Link to the Past, and Twilight Princess so Ganon really isn't as immortal as you hope.

Originally posted by Remindme
heres him toying with the strongest members of SOLDIER befroe the events in FFVII

How can Sephiroth toy with himself?

vergil beats seph too in terms of skill judging from his ac fight

Sephiroth outclasses Vergil in every single way except durability.

He's still messing around, in this fight, he's going all out.
Can you spot the part where he uses two hands?

its funny because Genesis is going all out, but once Genesis is about to seriously injure Angeal, Seph gives him a chop to the arm and Genesis screams like a girl.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
How can Sephiroth toy with himself?

He's not toying with himself dobe, he's toying with Angeal and Genesis

Originally posted by Terryc250
Sephiroth outclasses Vergil in every single way except durability.
Can't really assume that either, Sephiroth have never been tried, and if you check the first post, Virgil doesn't have that famous regeneration.

Originally posted by Terryc250
its funny because Genesis is going all out, but once Genesis is about to seriously injure Angeal, Seph gives him a chop to the arm and Genesis screams like a girl.
Heh, yeah, Some poke their nose and say "No, Bad Boy" others cut their shoulder

sorry, vergil>seph in everything without his true form where he just has magic advantage. cloud managed to beat seph when he was a lowly soldier.

vergil's fast enough to teleport everywhere making it impossible for seph to hit, and he can cut up an entire area without moving from a spot.

vergil effortless catches bullets and throws them back at full speed. seph is comparable with cloud who has to back off while blocking bullets slowly.

Originally posted by lightness
sorry, vergil>seph in everything without his true form where he just has magic advantage. cloud managed to beat seph when he was a lowly soldier.

vergil's fast enough to teleport everywhere making it impossible for seph to hit, and he can cut up an entire area without moving from a spot.

vergil effortless catches bullets and throws them back at full speed. seph is comparable with cloud who has to back off while blocking bullets slowly.

Maybe you didn't hear me so I'll try again

Sephiroth was Toying around with Cloud in that fight

Originally posted by Remindme
He's not toying with himself dobe, he's toying with Angeal and Genesis

You said he was toying with the best SOLDIER.

He's him toying with the strongest members of soldiers.....

Meaning the guys at the top of the bracket, which is what i said....at no point did i suggest it was an individual 😛

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Expect Ganon has been killed in Zelda NES, A Link to the Past, and Twilight Princess so Ganon really isn't as immortal as you hope.
The Ganon in NES and ALttP is a weaker version of Ganon, Ganondorf is his much more powerful reincarnation(OoT is not the first in the series, FSA is). Also, Ganon in TP did not die, is connection to his body was severed to to Zant killing himself, and lets say he did die, he did so after the ToP for unexplained reasons left his hand, Ganon with ToP is immortal.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
The Ganon in NES and ALttP is a weaker version of Ganon, Ganondorf is his much more powerful reincarnation(OoT is not the first in the series, FSA is). Also, Ganon in TP did not die, is connection to his body was severed to to Zant killing himself, and lets say he did die, he did so after the ToP for unexplained reasons left his hand, Ganon with ToP is immortal.

If FSA is Four Swords Adventure than you are waaay off. OoT has been said by the grand creator of Zelda to be the first in the series. And you really have no evidence that the Ganon in NES and ALttP is weaker. He has the Triforce of Power in NES and is killed and he has the entire Triforce in ALttP and is killed.

Originally posted by lightness
corrections

vergil>link>ganon. since he won many times and he's weaker.
vergil's basically too skilled for ganon to keep up with and is too hard to take down even if he gets him.

vergil beats seph too in terms of skill judging from his ac fight

Ganon is older, and is a better swordsman than Vergil, and has very powerful magic, also, never has Link ever beaten GanonDORF by himself, he has some kind of outside help.

Originally posted by Remindme
Maybe you didn't hear me so I'll try again

[B]Sephiroth was Toying around with Cloud in that fight [/B]

vergil toyed with dante in their first fight and he actually won. not like seph who toys with the main character and ended up losing cleanly everytime(except his angel form which he lost to the team).

vergil can do what cloud did to him with telekinetic swords plus a lot more.

So you think a half demon > Magically powerful Warlord with the powers of 3 goddesses?

Originally posted by ESB -1138
If FSA is Four Swords Adventure than you are waaay off. OoT has been said by the grand creator of Zelda to be the first in the series. And you really have no evidence that the Ganon in NES and ALttP is weaker. He has the Triforce of Power in NES and is killed and he has the entire Triforce in ALttP and is killed.
Oh really? I'll get the quote that states FSA is the first. Also, I go by feats, they were weaker.

Originally posted by lightness
vergil toyed with dante in their first fight and he actually won. not like seph who toys with the main character and ended up losing cleanly everytime(except his angel form which he lost to the team).

vergil can do what cloud did to him with telekinetic swords plus a lot more.

You seriously think Virgil > Sephiroth going all out?

Virgil was not toying with Dante, you have no evidence to suggest that, if you do, show me, if not, accept the facts we currently know.

The video i posted Clearly shows Sephiorth > Virgil in;
Skill
Speed
Strength
Reflexes

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Oh really? I'll get the quote that states FSA is the first. Also, I go by feats, they were weaker.

Let's see Ganon conquered Hyrule in NES and conquered the Golden Land in SNES. What grand feat are you looking for? Wait is it because the NES couldn't show off these grand powers that makes a castle explode?

Oh and you do know Four Swords Adventure is the sequel to Four Swords which is a sequel to the Minish Cap.

One feat that Ganon did thats never mentions is like create all the massive bad guys in the first place, that would take some serious mojo

Originally posted by Remindme
You seriously think Virgil > Sephiroth going all out?

Virgil was not toying with Dante, you have no evidence to suggest that, if you do, show me, if not, accept the facts we currently know.

The video i posted Clearly shows Sephiorth > Virgil in;
Skill
Speed
Strength
Reflexes

it's a fact that vergil could have killed dante but left him their, and he looked bored.

i didn't see a video showcasing anything spectacular compared to vergil

skill:vergil stoped ever drop of raindrop and formed a dome while fighting dante. plus vergil has more animeish fantasy sword cuts. pretty much all his sword cuts look extended/longer than his sword

speed: i don't see seph being able to dissapear everywhere like vergil did. vergil's faster than dante who can run faster than bullets

strength-vergil casually knocked a giant demon in the air and cut him in half with a kick. seph has never shown to be able to throw something that big and cut without his sword.

reflexes: already covered in skill/speed.

Originally posted by lightness
it's a fact that vergil could have killed dante but left him their, and he looked bored.

i didn't see a video showcasing anything spectacular compared to vergil

skill:vergil stoped ever drop of raindrop and formed a dome while fighting dante. plus vergil has more animeish fantasy sword cuts. pretty much all his sword cuts look extended/longer than his sword

speed: i don't see seph being able to dissapear everywhere like vergil did. vergil's faster than dante who can run faster than bullets

strength-vergil casually knocked a giant demon in the air and cut him in half with a kick. seph has never shown to be able to throw something that big and cut without his sword.

reflexes: already covered in skill/speed.

Choose not to finish someone off and going easy on someone are two completely different things.

Wow, cutting water is your reasoning as to having more skill.....are you insane? Sephiroth clearly shows more skill in the video i posted, you failed to prove anything. Sephiroth blade beam cut through the Junon Cannon without losing any of it's power, and in AC he cuts through buildings

Run faster than bullet without time manipulation? show me a video and i'll believe you, till then you have no evidence. In KH Sephiroth Spam teleports. in FFVII we see Sephiroth fly and go through walls.

Giant demon, how big is giant?. Sephiroth impaled a serpant over 100ft with a tree in FFVII