Battle Zone: darthgoober vs TricksterPriest

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Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah...I don't see Trick saying any of that giving him the win. GDS is invalid by FORUM rules, so none of your little theory's and loopholes about it matter. Did you ever think that maybe DS dying is proof that NOT all versions of DS are valid? Think about it, how are future versions of DS that will never come to pass the same character? Now there's a real mind bender for you. As for guys like Infinity Man and Stayne....prove it.

And what being that's far beyond a skyfather did DS beat?

Actually, there is a loophole by which the GDS feats can be let in. Darkseid killed GDS DS. Everything GDS 'seid did was done in a weakened state. And Darkseid easily killed GDS 'seid.

and the forum rules can go to hell. There is no forum rule regarding GDS, and I have disputed that interpretation with Digi for some time now.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Maybe sometime, but not for now(I normally want to punch my monitor when I debate with nvr OUTSIDE of the Battle Zone). Anyway, my character's supposed to be Keeper not Thanos, this match was just a special case because I had a point to make. I don't want to get drawn into defending Thanos everytime...

No. Nvr will not be fighting you. You will however, be obligated to accept a rematch from me. 😈 I didn't get a chance to use my full arsenal, and though I will take the loser sig, I consider this a handicap loss.

You owe me a real match. 😉

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ok so my observations. Trick Spent too much time trying to hype of DS and didn't use his best feats. He should have tried to discredit Thanos as much as he could. I woudln't have went for how much Thanos can endure, becuz we know he can take alot. I would have went for how much he can't crank out. DS has the ability to reality warp and create beings out of nothingness. He could subject Thanos to many many attacks. I also would have made note that since DS is about to die, everything that has happened to all versions of him are him. In GDS, the past DS came from the present and beat a being who had the power of Two Abstract lvl beings. Plus his own. Not counting GDS DS, the Current DS still experienced beating a being who was far being Skyfather. Since we know DS is about to manifest the Full omega again, there is no way in hell thanos has the power to get even one win. Infinity man would give Thanos a fight, as would Stayne. And neither can take DS.

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Originally posted by darthgoober
I doubt that nvr would go for that because in all likelihood Keeper would kick either of their asses 😖hifty: .

Infinity Man would actually be a really good fight. Not sure who would win.

Stayne outclasses Keeper.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Actually, there is a loophole by which the GDS feats can be let in. Darkseid killed GDS DS. Everything GDS 'seid did was done in a weakened state. And Darkseid easily killed GDS 'seid.

and the forum rules can go to hell. There is no forum rule regarding GDS, and I have disputed that interpretation with Digi for some time now.


You mean weakened and then repowered up right? Before DS did a single impressive feat in that arc, he was powered up by outside items TWICE. And actually, I heard from starking that it wasn't actually GDS DS that current Darkseid beat.

And you don't have to LIKE the rules Trick. I don't like the fact that DS's appearances from Hypertime and alternate realities are admissible, but those are just things that we have to deal with.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
No. Nvr will not be fighting you. You will however, be obligated to accept a rematch from me. 😈 I didn't get a chance to use my full arsenal, and though I will take the loser sig, I consider this a handicap loss.

You owe me a [b]real match. 😉 [/B]


As I said, what didn't you get to show? I only proposed the match because I've yet to see anything that puts DS heads and tails over Thanos in power. If you can convince me of that now by providing evidence to that effect, then I'll go ahead and acknowledge it and no match will be necessary. Unless of course, you think you HAVE to have some kind of undisclosed "secret weapon" just to stand a chance against me....

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Infinity Man would actually be a really good fight. Not sure who would win.

Stayne outclasses Keeper.


Really because according to Galan, Takion(who's the equal of Stayne) is right on par with Keeper power wise. In fact, he said he'd slightly FAVOR Keeper in that match.

Originally posted by darthgoober
You mean weakened and then repowered up right? Before DS did a single impressive feat in that arc, he was powered up by outside items TWICE. And actually, I heard from starking that it wasn't actually GDS DS that current Darkseid beat.

And you don't have to LIKE the rules Trick. I don't like the fact that DS's appearances from Hypertime and alternate realities are admissible, but those are just things that we have to deal with.

As I said, what didn't you get to show? I only proposed the match because I've yet to see anything that puts DS heads and tails over Thanos in power. If you can convince me of that now by providing evidence to that effect, then I'll go ahead and acknowledge it and no match will be necessary. Unless of course, you think you HAVE to have some kind of undisclosed "secret weapon" just to stand a chance against me....

First off, GDS 'seid was not at full power. He acknowledged that he was stronger in the past and that absorbing Mordru and Time Trapper's power didn't bring him back to full power.

And you asked for it.

Before I continue showing why Darkseid outclasses Thanos, I'm going to take a slight detour and show off some of Darkseid's uber minions. All of whom were created under his own power.

First off, I'm going to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, that PC Validus would annihilate Thanos.

I'm going to copy some of the things from Rorscarch's respect thread.

Originally posted by Rorschach

Sun Boy claims Validus can take down entire cities with his mental lightning, and that his voice itself is like thunder.

His mental lightning can give out the energy of 1,000 30th Century power plants. The sheer power that Validus is unleashing almost knocks out Sun Boy, and his high intensity solar burst does nothing to Validus.

Originally posted by Rorschach

A portion of a Sun-Eater unleashes planet-splitting force, and it is met by the [B]equally devastating power of Validus.

A wounded Validus shows up and saves Valiant Girl from another portion of the Sun-Eater. He also forces it to retreat. [/B]

Originally posted by Rorschach

Validus takes out Superboy.

More to come soon.

Originally posted by Rorschach

Grabs a speeding Mon-El and throws him right through a planetoid.

Originally posted by Rorschach

Validus punks the Legion and kills the Invisible Kid, effortlessly.

In addition to all this, Validus is completely immune to TP and most forms of matter manip.

Originally posted by Rorschach

Duplicate Boy can mimic the power of Superboy but Validus’ power is more than his body can handle.

Originally posted by Rorschach

Punks Karate Kid.

Originally posted by Rorschach

Validus tears a world apart without showing any sign of strain.

Next up: Stayne.

Her origin: http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takion2125zp7ua.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takion2137mg5wc.jpg

The big ass hand is Darkseid.

Stayne is considered totally equal to Takion and capable of performing any feat that he can. So here are a few feats from Takion to demonstrate his power. Most of these feats are from when he was still learning how to use his powers.

Originally posted by Estacado
[b]Takion vs Kyle Rayner
Shows ability to teleport turns off Kyle's ring by intercepting it's energies.When Kyle tries to contain Takion he begins to "feed" on the ring's energy which awakens the power of The Source inside him.While he tries to regain control he somehow manages to lift out a huge air craft carrier from the see also teleports it.

[/B]
Originally posted by Estacado
[b]Creates and controls a black hole
After he created the black hole he is able to manipulate the gravitational pull of it showing this by focusing it on the air craft carrier also says he is capable of manipulating the forces of the Universe.
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cont.

Originally posted by Estacado
[b]Abilities
Lasers don't effect him he can also change the solidity of his body can put things in a magnetic stasis capable of teleporting others by shifting reality.
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cont.

Originally posted by Estacado
[b]Takion vs Stayne
She was created by Darkseid she is the "dark side" of the Source.

[/B]

Couldn't you save a lot of time if you just linked to the respect forum? 😬.

Originally posted by Estacado
[b]Takion Vs Stayne
Takion and Stayne have the exact same powers only Stayne is evil.Takion is capable of gathering neutrons from the air and solidify them using hem as energy beams. He is being able to scatter Stayne's energies by dispersing her magnetic field she counters this by intensifying her gravitational field on a molecular level.After Takion tries to turn her into anti matter that can't exist in th matter universe but his strategy doesn't work because Stayne contained her self in an electro magnetic field with this she is not touching matter then Takion also changes him self into anti matter after takion tries to destroy her by messing with her molecular structure but Stayne just merges with him and tales control of him from inside as within a few seconds he is able to separate her from himself.

[/B]

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Takion easily stops a battle between the forces of Apokolips and Earth's heroes and pulls the heroes out of it in some kind of forcefield to talk to them:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/takioninterruptsbattle.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/takioninterruptsbattle1.jpg

Even though Takion died during the Genesis event, as soon as the Source was restored, he was as well, since he was a part of it. This implies that as long as the Source exists, Takion can't die:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/takionlinkedtosource.jpg

Takion searches all of Apokolips for Darkseid:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/takionsearchesapokolips.jpg

Takion teleports all of the heroes from the Source Wall back to their homes:http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/takionteleportation.jpg

Another thing DS can do that Thanos cannot, is resurrect the dead, including those killed by his OE.
Erases Lashina:
http://img435.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vaporizes8cb.jpg

And.....rezzes Lashina:
http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lashina9mk.jpg

Originally posted by darthgoober
I doubt that nvr would go for that because in all likelihood Keeper would kick either of their asses 😖hifty: .

You would never see me argue against him with IM. I would pick Highfather. 🙂

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
First off, GDS 'seid was not at full power. He acknowledged that he was stronger in the past and that absorbing Mordru and Time Trapper's power didn't bring him back to full power.

But he didn't just absorb their power now did he? He also absorbed energy from Excalibure and the Orb of...something or other(I don't remember what).

But of course none of that matters, because GDS isn't allowed by forum rules.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
And you asked for it.

Before I continue showing why Darkseid outclasses Thanos, I'm going to take a slight detour and show off some of Darkseid's uber minions. All of whom were created under his own power.

First off, I'm going to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, that PC Validus would annihilate Thanos.

I'm going to copy some of the things from Rorscarch's respect thread.

More to come soon.


Minions mean shit. Odin's created plenty of things that possess powers that he himself lacks, and ALL of Galactus's heralds are faster than he and have capabilities that he doesn't.

Originally posted by darthgoober
But he didn't just absorb their power now did he? He also absorbed energy from Excalibure and the Orb of...something or other(I don't remember what).

But of course none of that matters, because GDS isn't allowed by forum rules.

Minions mean shit. Odin's created plenty of things that possess powers that he himself lacks,

what?

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
what?

To which part?

To describe darkseids minions and their feats isnt pertinent to this conversation. Should thanos backers bring up omega who is above all these characters that trick named. No becuz even though thanos created him it isnt him. Its a feat for thanos genius is all. Darkseid does have incredible power but his power differs from his minions as does galactus with his minions or heralds as well. I hope this opened up lots of eyes here and I still believe thanos takes a vast majority here. Vast.

Originally posted by darthgoober
To which part?
Originally posted by darthgoober
Minions mean shit. Odin's created plenty of things that possess powers that he himself lacks

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Originally posted by Bad Ash231
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Ah...I was thinking of things like the Destroyer, and Odin's spear. Both of which originate from the Odin Force, and both of which have capabilities beyond those of Odin himself.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Actually, there is a loophole by which the GDS feats can be let in. Darkseid killed GDS DS. Everything GDS 'seid did was done in a weakened state. And Darkseid easily killed GDS 'seid.

and the forum rules can go to hell. There is no forum rule regarding GDS, and I have disputed that interpretation with Digi for some time now.

No. Nvr will not be fighting you. You will however, be obligated to accept a rematch from me. 😈 I didn't get a chance to use my full arsenal, and though I will take the loser sig, I consider this a handicap loss.

You owe me a [b]real match. 😉 [/B]

Why should gds darkseid feats be relevent when he was absorbing other beings powers. The other reason is it happened in the future and hasnt occurred yet.

And i am going to correct you. Gds darkseid fought a Youthful 8th century darkseid immediately after he was resurrected pretty much. He hadnt had time to go around and amp himself up. Young ds used to orion to kill him. This darkseid killing the older i just woke up i aint shit darkseid is not impressive in the least. The whole point of dragging his younger self there was to give him his youthful body back becuz the current one he occupied was run down. Feat doesnt satnd and it shouldnt as the there is no loophole. Some overzealous fans of darkseid want so desperately to reference these feats becuz he was impressive in the story. That is the only reason/