Originally posted by HandOfFate
Let's see speed of thought is about 30 m/s (note that is meters per second, not miles) Vs Speed of lightning 93,000 miles per second (IIRC)Emma generates a mental bolt and fire it off towards Storm. While Storm generates a lightning bolt [b]above
Emma's head.Which strike first? [/B]
Storm still has to think about casting the lightning bolt... 😬
Originally posted by HandOfFate
So does Emma. Mental bolts don't just pop out of the blue 🙂
true, though i'd be more inclined to think that a mental bolt is part of the same thought process as her actual idea... like, as she's thinking of doing the mental bolt its already happening... not so with storm imo...
Originally posted by pr1983
true, though i'd be more inclined to think that a mental bolt is part of the same thought process as her actual idea... like, as she's thinking of doing the mental bolt its already happening... not so with storm imo...
I would agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that Storm's powers are always on. Mentally speaking she is always in touch with the environment. This is the reason she can feel the movement of objects through the air even thought she can't see the object.
This also allows Storm to manifest weather effects within seconds, which is about the same time it would take Emma to generate a mental bolt
As you can see, it takes her seconds to manifest a hurrican on the surface of the Moon. Now think about if she did something much smaller. 😉
Originally posted by HandOfFateThat's not the speed of thought, that's the speed of an action potential down myelinated axons. If Emma planned on punching Storm in the face it might be relevant.
Let's see speed of thought is about 30 m/s (note that is meters per second, not miles) Vs Speed of lightning 93,000 miles per second (IIRC)Emma generates a mental bolt and fire it off towards Storm. While Storm generates a lightning bolt [b]above
Emma's head.Which strike first? [/B]
Storm : Thought followed by action.
Emma : Thought is action.
Emma: 'Shut down.' Storm shuts down. Same thing as discussed ad nauseum with the Sue Richards thread.
Originally posted by demigawd
Ask and ye shall receive:http://weather.sun-sentinel.com/tornadoFAQ.asp
Tornadoes can be strong enough to destroy large buildings, leaving only the bare concrete foundation. In addition, they can lift 20-ton railroad cars from their tracks and they can drive straw and blades of grass into tree and telephone poles.
(I actually meant tornadoes, not hurricanes)
Thnk you for this. People from America should know this, since hurricans and tornadoes often hit your country. 🙄
And in response to speed of thought (mind blast) vs. lightning, but isn't lightning travel faster than speed of though? Correct me if I'm wrong. And given the fact Storm can produce lightning and other weather phenomenas with BARELY a thought...
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That's not the speed of thought, that's the speed of an action potential down myelinated axons. If Emma planned on punching Storm in the face it might be relevant.Storm : Thought followed by action.
Emma : Thought is action.Emma: 'Shut down.' Storm shuts down. Same thing as discussed ad nauseum with the Sue Richards thread.
No, thought does not equal action. If so, then telepaths would wins every fight within a couple of seconds. Like Storm, Emma has to generate a psi-bolt, it's not something she can do with a moments notices.
The only way thought would equal action would be if Emma is already in touch with Storm's mind, which she is not.
So in other words Emma can think whatever the hell she want too but generating the psi-energy to accomplished this task is another thing
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So if she's telling another mind to shut down, that is for some reason slower than entire actions?
If Storm was trying to stab her with a knife then yeah but their both working on the same mental speed. Emma is not in contact with Storm's mind during the begin of this battle, so thought does not equal action until Emma makes contact.
Unless you have something showing Emma's mental speed at superhuman level.
Originally posted by HandOfFate
If Storm was trying to stab her with a knife then yeah but their both working on the same mental speed. Emma is not in contact with Storm's mind during the begin of this battle, so thought does not equal action until Emma makes contact.Unless you have something showing Emma's mental speed at superhuman level.
I honestly don't know what you're trying to prove. Emma has shut down minds with a mere thought before.
http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/2473/telepathy5ot.jpg
Notice that they're seven other people in this room, she was caught by suprise and she still managed to specifically pin point the part of their brains that controls movement.
I have another scan where she gives an entire crowd orgasms in an instant. Again she pin points each of the specific part of their minds with a thought. (There are may 30+ people in the crowd).
Cassandra Nova has made Gladiator wet his pants with a thought.
She's also made Wolvey a little girl with a thought.
Emma has taken over Beasts and Wolverines mind with a thought.
Esme has mentally shutdown both Sage and Bishop with a thought.
When telepaths communicate with one another it's thought based.
Both Storm and Emma make visual contact at the same time, so I don't see the point you're trying to proof.
As stated above Emma's thought is action while Storm is thought + action.
Grass and straw cannot pierce concrete.Don't be stupid.
-AC
"Don't be stupid"
Such irony.
It's a fact. go google it.
I've never heard of grass or hay straw, BUT I have however seen footage of a drinking straw (like from mcdonalds) imbeded into a tree.
Not to mention on CSI a hurricane wind took up a bullet which happened to hit someone, which set up the plot of them not being able to find the weapon because nothing could fire the bullet that fast.
So hurricane speeds are amazing, amazing strong.
And CSI is usually very scientifically on track.
Originally posted by What If...
[B]Considering Emma is practically on her knees with Storms hand wrapped around her throat, we can presume 99% she could kill her.
Notice the length of time where Storm gets naked. And then she lunges towards Emma with her hands. That's one of the events I'm talking about.
So nope...
As said before, the magnitude of the lighnting can be altered, Emma was on top of her, she got her off with a quick lightning bolt to the face.
There is no evidence showing she has some wierd immunity to lightning to we must presume in a normal human body it can easily kill her.
Hah...the first time Storm was out to kill Emma when she struck her with lightning.
The fact is Emma(Human Form) has survived Storms lightning twice now, it has failed to knock her out. So either Emma's silicon body protects her or Storms lightning isn't all it's hyped up to be.
So nope the fact remains, Storms lighting has failed twice now. Emma's Psi-Force Bolt hasn't.
Originally posted by HandOfFateThat's not my point only that it takes less steps for her to shut someone else's mind down than it does for Storm to conjure a lightning bolt. A lightning bolt takes time, even though it's fast, it still moves. A mental command is... "Sue, mind off"...
If Storm was trying to stab her with a knife then yeah but their both working on the same mental speed. Emma is not in contact with Storm's mind during the begin of this battle, so thought does not equal action until Emma makes contact.Unless you have something showing Emma's mental speed at superhuman level.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I have another scan where she gives an entire crowd orgasms in an instant. Again she pin points each of the specific part of their minds with a thought. (There are may 30+ people in the crowd).
how do you know that emma has done all those in an instant. with the crowd she could have been in their heads the instant she walked out there and it took her that whole time to pin-point that section of their brain.
I honestly don't know what you're trying to prove. Emma has shut down minds with a mere thought before.
we both know it has taken longer than a thoiught for her to completley shut down someones brain before
Originally posted by stormfront13
how do you know that emma has done all those in an instant. with the crowd she could have been in their heads the instant she walked out there and it took her that whole time to pin-point that section of their brain.
Look at the scan, Emma was in her Diamond Form. This is before Emma got shattered and fixed by the Phoenix. This version of Emma was unable to use her telepathy and Diamond Form simultaneously. So nope it's the speed of thought.
we both know it has taken longer than a thoiught for her to completley shut down someones brain before
Well according to the scan it doesn't and according to the comics it doesn't. Even movies and television state that telepathy works at the speed of thought.
So again I fail to see what you're trying to prove.
Emma's power work at the speed of thought ok but don't you think since storm is alot smarter than emma see can think faster and act on her thoughts. But storm doesn't even have to think for her powers to react she is truely one with her powers just by her being a slight piss natural reacts so I say storm all the way
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Look at the scan, Emma was in her Diamond Form. This is before Emma got shattered and fixed by the Phoenix. This version of Emma was unable to use her telepathy and Diamond Form simultaneously. So nope it's the speed of thought.
do you know the time it was after she left her diamond form to the point where had pushed their bliss buttons? definitley more than the speed of thought however.
Well according to the scan it doesn't and according to the comics it doesn't. Even movies and television state that telepathy works at the speed of thought.
1) the scan doesn't prove it's at the speed of thought
2)it's taken longer than the speed of thought before in the comics
3) movies and cartoons don't mean anything
