Magneto vs Superboy-Prime!!

Started by Rorschach12 pages
Originally posted by carver9
You do realize that its a comic. It was stated on panel that he was going only the speed of light. What more evidence do you need. 😕

He said he was going to fly though Oa at the speed of light and create a new Big Bang so that he would be the only hero left. Then when he was about to fly off Kal-L grabbed his leg, which would have Superman-Prime realize he had to move much faster if was going to actually lose the heroes.

Originally posted by carver9
So im guessing that superboy prime was going to slow down when he got to oa and fly through it at the speed of light. I have a question for ya. If he was going faster than the speed of light, why would he slow down once he had reached oa. If he was going so far above the speed of light why would he bring his speed under what he was flying to get there. Dont make sense to me.

He said he was going to fly through Oa at the speed of light. Most likely he couldn't achieve a new Big Bang unless he was flying at the speed of light and not faster than light.

Originally posted by carver9
By the way, show me a scan where it says that superman can go the speed of light. Show me something where the narrator is saying that superman can go the speed of light.

Not this bullshit again. You keep saying Superman can't move FTL because he hasn't done it on Earth but make exceptions for characters like Gladiator.

If you think Superman isn't FTL because he doesn't do so on Earth, then don't say any character is FTL unless they've gone FTL while on Earth.

Originally posted by carver9
Show me a scan that says superman was moving close to the speed of light ON EARTH. Show me something that the narrorator is saying this.

It was stated he could race a photon to it's target. Photons move at the speed of light.

He escaped from a Black Hole by moving FTL. Only trolls like Phenomenol think otherwise. It's a good thing I have him on ignore.

Now you show me some scans of 5 different characters moving faster than light on Earth.

Originally posted by carver9
You do know who iron man is right. Ironman flew from earth to the sun in 2 panels.

The time taken wasn't stated.

Originally posted by carver9
Ironman flew with sentry from the sun to earth in 2 panels.

Iron Man didn't fly to the Sun with Sentry, he stayed behind. Sentry was the one who went all the way to the Sun.

Originally posted by carver9
Ironman also flew from earth to the moon in one panel.

Time wasn't stated, and he could have gotten there in 10 seconds and he would still be slower than light.

Originally posted by carver9
So im guessing that iron man moves faster than the speed of light

No.

Originally posted by carver9
the narrator could have been saving room and shortened the panels so that they wouldnt have to use a lot of room showing a character just flying through space.

One-Panel with the time taken for Iron Man to reach his destination would be enough.

Originally posted by carver9
Unless youre saying that ironman can go the speed of light. If he can, he speed blitz wonderwoman, iron man 10/10.

Not really, seeing as how Wonder Woman has tagged Zoom and Flash.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Superman escaped under his own power,he needed the dude the seal the hole when he got out or he would have just been sucked back in,there are many things proving hes ftl.

You obviously didn't read what the hell superman said did you? Read the scans very carefully!

Superman is talking about escaping through a rift at LIGHTSPEED! Superman then goes on to say "if he can make that." The scans before these show Superman FAILING terribly to escape from the Black Hole under his own speed. IT IS RIGHT THERE IN THE COMIC.

Originally posted by Rorschach
He escaped from a Black Hole by moving FTL. Only trolls like Phenomenol think otherwise. It's a good thing I have him on ignore.

Now you show me some scans of 5 different characters moving faster than light on Earth.

Your the troll, you choose to believe something that is not true and then spout it around as if it is fact? The CANON scans disagrees with your fanboyism!!!

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4198/untitled128qt3bk.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5858/untitled138wy8fy.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5207/untitled140kt3ew.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/938/untitled152oe8eq.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8946/untitled166ov4wo.jpg
http://i84.imagethrust.com/images/5tMA/view-image/superman-191-kebbin-18.html
http://i84.imagethrust.com/images/5tMD/view-image/superman-191-kebbin-20.html

He is not FTL.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8669/jla02114bq7.jpg

Originally posted by Phenomenol
You obviously didn't read what the hell superman said did you? Read the scans very carefully!

Superman is talking about escaping through a rift at LIGHTSPEED! Superman then goes on to say "if he can make that." The scans before these show Superman FAILING terribly to escape from the Black Hole under his own speed. IT IS RIGHT THERE IN THE COMIC.

[QUOTE=Rorschach]He escaped from a Black Hole by moving FTL. Only trolls like Phenomenol think otherwise. It's a good thing I have him on ignore.

Now you show me some scans of 5 different characters moving faster than light on Earth.

Your the troll, you choose to believe something that is not true and then spout it around as if it is fact? The CANON scans disagrees with your fanboyism!!!

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4198/untitled128qt3bk.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5858/untitled138wy8fy.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5207/untitled140kt3ew.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/938/untitled152oe8eq.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8946/untitled166ov4wo.jpg
http://i84.imagethrust.com/images/5tMA/view-image/superman-191-kebbin-18.html
http://i84.imagethrust.com/images/5tMD/view-image/superman-191-kebbin-20.html

He is not FTL. [/QUOTE]
Right,except he escaped under his own power,ww fight,going to andromeda galaxy,earth to saturn in 4 minutes,racing a photon to its target,there are plenty of feats putting him at lightspeed and beyond.

He was moving at the speed of light , but needed someone to keep the rift open. He was capable of moving at those speeds on his own.

And vlaaad12345, I'd appreciate if you didn't quote any of Phenomenol's posts. I really don't want to see any of his bullshit.

Originally posted by Rorschach
He said he was going to fly though Oa at the speed of light and create a new Big Bang so that he would be the only hero left. Then when he was about to fly off Kal-L grabbed his leg, which would have Superman-Prime realize he had to move much faster if was going to actually lose the heroes.

He said he was going to fly through Oa at the speed of light. Most likely he couldn't achieve a new Big Bang unless he was flying at the speed of light and not faster than light.

Not this bullshit again. You keep saying Superman can't move FTL because he hasn't done it on Earth but make exceptions for characters like Gladiator.

If you think Superman isn't FTL because he doesn't do so on Earth, then don't say any character is FTL unless they've gone FTL while on Earth.

It was stated he could race a photon to it's target. Photons move at the speed of light.

He escaped from a Black Hole by moving FTL. Only trolls like Phenomenol think otherwise. It's a good thing I have him on ignore.

Now you show me some scans of 5 different characters moving faster than light on Earth.

The time taken wasn't stated.

Iron Man didn't fly to the Sun with Sentry, he stayed behind. Sentry was the one who went all the way to the Sun.

Time wasn't stated, and he could have gotten there in 10 seconds and he would still be slower than light.

No.

One-Panel with the time taken for Iron Man to reach his destination would be enough.

Not really, seeing as how Wonder Woman has tagged Zoom and Flash.

Deathstroke, batman, etc, has tagged the flash, I guess they move faster than light. By the way, read what superman says. http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8669/jla02114bq7.jpg 😆

Precrisis superman can move the speed of light but superman has said plenty of time on panel that he cant move that fast.

Originally posted by carver9
Deathstroke, batman, etc, has tagged the flash, I guess they move faster than light.

Some scans or issue numbers would be appreciated.

Besides, anyone below light-speed tagging Flash is PIS.

Originally posted by carver9
By the way, read what superman says. http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8669/jla02114bq7.jpg 😆

Great job brining up a scan from 9 years ago.

I guess Flash can only move at the speed of sound since that’s what he said in a comic over 10 years ago.

Originally posted by carver9
Precrisis superman can move the speed of light but superman has said plenty of time on panel that he cant move that fast.

Pre-Crisis could fly 1000s of times the speed of light, he broke the time barrier as a baby.

Post-Criss said so once, from a comic 8 years ago or so that he can't move faster than light. Since then he's moved faster than light.

Give me issue numbers that Superman claims he can't fly faster than light. Since you said that he's said it pleny of times, I'm assuming that you have refferences.

Flash can only move at the speed of sound. 🙄

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff144/KMCSuperman/Flashv2Annual0126.jpg

A top speed of only 705 Miles per Hour? I can't believe people think Quicksilver would lose to this guy. 🙄

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff144/KMCSuperman/Flash-v2-001-06.jpg

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Right,except he escaped under his own power,

WRONG!!! He didn't go FTL to escape the Black Hole, he escaped it at lightspeed and Superman is ONLY 99% lightspeed. That is canon!

@Roach is nothin but a fanboy!

Originally posted by Phenomenol
WRONG!!! He didn't go FTL to escape the Black Hole, he escaped it at lightspeed and Superman is ONLY 99% lightspeed. That is canon!

@Roach is nothin but a fanboy!

Read the Presidnet Lutor arc or identity crisis. Superman travels many multiples of light speed in both.

Originally posted by Zebedee
Read the Presidnet Lutor arc or identity crisis. Superman travels many multiples of light speed in both.

When did he travel faster than light in Identity Crisis?

He didnt and phenominal he dont go 99% the speed of light. Not even close. Read Superman for tomorrow, he will tell you what his speed is when he was trying to race and save some soldiers but was FAST enough to catch that bullets.

Originally posted by carver9
He didnt and phenominal he dont go 99% the speed of light. Not even close. Read Superman for tomorrow, he will tell you what his speed is when he was trying to race and save some soldiers but was FAST enough to catch that bullets.

More Bullshit.

The issue you’re referring to is Superman v2 207.

Superman states the speed of a speeding bullet and then confirms that he is faster than a speeding bullet but says that sometimes being faster than a speeding bullet isn’t enough. He didn’t say he wasn’t faster than light and didn’t say that was his speed limit.

nuff said..

Originally posted by batdude123

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=7676905

Saturn is 821,190,000 miles away. In 4 minutes, light travels approximately 44,640,000 miles. So 821,190,000 / 44,640,000 = 18.3958333333333 etc. faster than the speed of light.

Although, it can reach close to a billion miles away in which case he'd be flying approximately 22 times light speed.

🙂

Originally posted by Rorschach
Some scans or issue numbers would be appreciated.

Besides, anyone below light-speed tagging Flash is PIS.

Great job brining up a scan from 9 years ago.

I guess Flash can only move at the speed of sound since that’s what he said in a comic over 10 years ago.

So i guess you didnt see identity crisis when deathstroke stab flash in the shoulder.

When wonderwoman or superman fight zoom or flash they get over whelmed. Neither of the two keep up with them. Wonderwoman even said her self how is she suppose to fight someone moving at the speed of light.

By the way when flash moves at the speed of light or even close, you do know the impact that it has on his body right. If you dont, look at the comic where he saved 500,000 people from a city that was hit by a nuke. He was hurt. Flash rarely goes the speed of light and when he does you do know that thats when the speed force is summoned.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
nuff said..

King mungi, you do know who nova is right; he has super human strength, speed, etc... Well on earth he can only achieve the speed of sound but in space, guess how fast he can go, ftl. WOW.

So that scan is believable, since superman was flying through a place that has no gravity pull. 😕

http://en.marveldatabase.com/Nova_%28Richard_Rider%29

Originally posted by carver9
So i guess you didnt see identity crisis when deathstroke stab flash in the shoulder.

You conveniently left out the part where Deathstroke set off some explosives and moved his sword so that Flash would run into it.

Originally posted by carver9
When wonderwoman or superman fight zoom or flash they get over whelmed. Neither of the two keep up with them. Wonderwoman even said her self how is she suppose to fight someone moving at the speed of light.

She never said that. She even said that Zoom wasn't truly faster than her but was moving ahead of her time.

In the same fight she managed to land a punch on him.

Originally posted by carver9
By the way when flash moves at the speed of light or even close, you do know the impact that it has on his body right. If you dont, look at the comic where he saved 500,000 people from a city that was hit by a nuke.

No he wasn’t. He went back to the League to battle against Fernus.

Originally posted by carver9
He was hurt. Flash rarely goes the speed of light and when he does you do know that thats when the speed force is summoned.

He can access the Speed Force anytime he wants, he's gone FTL on several occasions.

Originally posted by carver9
http://en.marveldatabase.com/Nova_%28Richard_Rider%29

How posting something that isn’t an online bio.

Post a scan from a comic book where Nova says he can only fly at mach 3 while on Earth.

And keep in mind that Nova flys FTL by accessing hyperspace, something Superman doesn't do.