The Destroyer vs. Darkseid

Started by Priest12 pages

Originally posted by h1a8
Why won't the Omega Effect erase the destroyer?
It is not essential.

Superman is not essential either.

Originally posted by Priest
Superman is not essential either.
dc will never kill off supes. they are up supes ass.

to dc he is essential. more essential than anyone else.

Originally posted by h1a8
Why won't the Omega Effect erase the destroyer?
It is not essential.

Being "essential to the universe" has nothing to do with it. That's just some fan-based "forum talk" to excuse Supes resisting it.

Originally posted by Priest
Superman is not essential either.

Yes he is. Where you been?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Being "essential to the universe" has nothing to do with it. That's just some fan-based "forum talk" to excuse Supes resisting it.

FAIL. Superman hasn't resisted the full OE. AND superman is essential to the entire multiverse.

How do you know Destroyer isn't essential?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
FAIL. Superman hasn't resisted the full OE. AND superman is essential to the entire multiverse.

He didn't say that Superman wasn't essential.

He said the explanation for 'surviving the omega effect' being "Superman's essential!" is just some fan-talk. It was never stated in a comic that Superman survived the Omega Effect because he was essential to the multiverse.

He survived it because he's just that friggin tough.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
FAIL. Superman hasn't resisted the full OE. AND superman is essential to the entire multiverse.

Originally posted by Soljer
He didn't say that Superman wasn't essential.

He said the explanation for 'surviving the omega effect' being "Superman's essential!" is just some fan-talk. It was never stated in a comic that Superman survived the Omega Effect because he was essential to the multiverse.

He survived it because he's just that friggin tough.


Originally posted by darthgoober

Bah. He isn't that touch. He's been teleported by the OE too many times to say he's that tuff.

Mxy did state that if Superman was in some way killed, the Universe he resided in would experience armageddon/destruction.

So he is essential to existence in some way/shape/form --- But that has nothing to do with how he resisted the OE. srsly

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Bah. He isn't that touch. He's been teleported by the OE too many times to say he's that tuff.

Prove that DS can erase everyone that he can teleport.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Prove that DS can erase everyone that he can teleport.
Agogg, Martian Manhunter, Secret, Lobo and Hank Henshaw are on par, or above Supes. So he should be able to erase him, unless there's something other than his durability keeping him from doing so......

Originally posted by starking
Agogg, Martian Manhunter, Secret, Lobo and Hank Henshaw are on par, or above Supes. So he should be able to erase him, unless there's something other than his durability keeping him from doing so......

Just because someone's on on par in overall power, that doesn't mean that they have superior durability. Storm's a lot more powerful than Luke Cage but she's no where near as durable. Who has DS erased that has actual durability showings equal to Supes?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Just because someone's on on par in overall power, that doesn't mean that they have superior durability. Storm's a lot more powerful than Luke Cage but she's no where near as durable. Who has DS erased that has actual durability showings equal to Supes?
Agogg, Secret and Hank Henshaw are probally Superior to Supes in the durability department and they were all effected by the omegas.

Originally posted by starking
Agogg, Secret and Hank Henshaw are probally Superior to Supes in the durability department and they were all effected by the omegas.

Henshaw was transmuted and Secret was depowered, neither was erased. As for Agogg, you said it yourself....PROBABLY supperior. I haven't seen anything that actually indicates that though.

Originally posted by Soljer
Because, if I recall correctly, even when an absolute nobody was powering it, it was more than a match for Thor.

In the Destroyer's first appearance, it was discovered and animated by an ordinary human. The Destroyer could unleash any force in the universe, fire them as bolts of limitless power (it's how it sliced Mjolner in half), it took hits from Mjolner like nothing, and could even use it against Thor.

Only because it didn't fair well against the Celestials (which, IMO, is wrong), am I Not so quick to write Darkseid off.

For me, the Destroyer was a godkiller. Classic Destroyer could unleash any form of energy in immeasurable amounts; it would decimate OWAW Darkseid (and shoulda been able to decimate the Celestials). I don't know enough about Classic Darkseid to comment.

Originally posted by Mindship
In the Destroyer's first appearance, it was discovered and animated by an ordinary human. The Destroyer could unleash any force in the universe, fire them as bolts of limitless power (it's how it sliced Mjolner in half), it took hits from Mjolner like nothing, and could even use it against Thor.

Only because it didn't fair well against the Celestials (which, IMO, is wrong), am I Not so quick to write Darkseid off.

For me, the Destroyer was a godkiller. Classic Destroyer could unleash any form of energy in immeasurable amounts; it would decimate OWAW Darkseid (and shoulda been able to decimate the Celestials). I don't know enough about Classic Darkseid to comment.

Odin's greatest creation vs the Celestials failed. One Celestial blocked his ultimate weapon.

Destroyer was handling Desak in their fight, until Desak found Tarene.
Which isn't relevant, the second part, but the first shows his raw power.

Originally posted by Galan007
Mxy did state that if Superman was in some way killed, the Universe he resided in would experience armageddon/destruction.

So he is essential to existence in some way/shape/form --- But that has nothing to do with how he resisted the OE. srsly

Are you correcting me or explaining to Nvr?

Cause that's, more or less, exactly what I said.

Barring an astral whammy to the soul, Darkseid gets mauled.

Destroyer is like doomsday, only more durable, with extremely potent energy projection and other powers.

And people take the OE because they can take the OE.

I've asked nvr and others to provide a scan linking Superman to the Source, with Darkseid's OE failure and it never shows because it doesn't exist.

The Dread Destroyer takes the OE, gets back up, and opens the visor of doom right to the eyeknobs.