Is rock dead and/or dying?

Started by Nellinator12 pages

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Though it is always easier to look back and find the good bands than to pick them out of the current scene.
Which may be true. Though, I'm pretty good about looking for music. Mainstream rock has been dead for quite a while and this indie movement is pumping out mediocre bands by the thousands with a few good along the way. I guess one could say that rock naturally progressed to metal as well which has produced many great bands as well, but metal seems to be stagnating as well imo. Time will tell I suppose.

Metal is shit at the moment.

I remember though, in '99, I somewhat lost interest in music, and it felt like hardly anything was coming out.

Now though, I own many many albums from that year that I bought at a later date, with the benefit of hindsight.

Always 20/20 it is.

So the new question is:

What rock bands and/or artists formed after 1990 does everyone predict will have lasting power?

Originally posted by Nellinator
Always 20/20 it is.

So the new question is:

What rock bands and/or artists formed after 1990 does everyone predict will have lasting power?


The White Stripes for one.(or at least Jack White in some shape or form)

Lasting power meaning what?

Originally posted by Nellinator
Always 20/20 it is.

So the new question is:

What rock bands and/or artists formed after 1990 does everyone predict will have lasting power?

Rage Against the Machine definately, unless they formed in the late 80s

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Lasting power meaning what?
30 years from now getting play on classic rock stations, getting new generations of fans and albums continuing to be distributed in contemporary stores.

Hmm.

Radiohead, The White Stripes, RHCP, Nirvana, Muse maybe.

Probably many others according to your criteria; then others entirely for serious music fans.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Hmm.

Radiohead, The White Stripes, RHCP, Nirvana, Muse maybe.

Probably many others according to your criteria; then others entirely for serious music fans.

All bands I thought of too. Nirvana is already on the classic rock station I listen to. So are Soundgarden and Pearl Jam and STP and RHCP. I kinda trying to think of bands that got recognized after the grunge era died.

I wouldn't be surprised to here RATM, the Foo Fighters, Tool, maybe some Queens of the Stone Age. I think Muse is on the way there. A couple more good albums and I think they are a lock.

I don't really count cult bands as having lasting power though, even if they are good and still have a dedicated following. That's definitions though I guess.

Tool aren't ever on the radio here as it is, to my knowledge.

People outside of the US and Canada tend to forget that over here they're still not a major mainstream band.

-AC

Oasis will probably still be listened to, though the thought doesn't fill me with ecstasy.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Tool aren't ever on the radio here as it is, to my knowledge.

People outside of the US and Canada tend to forget that over here they're still not a major mainstream band.

-AC

And vice versa.

Rock is only 'dead' if you are influenced by what you see and hear on the mainstream media.

Originally posted by wicker_man
Rock is only 'dead' if you are influenced by what you see and hear on the mainstream media.
I'd beg to differ.

Re: Is rock dead and/or dying?

Originally posted by Nellinator
It has been a long time since rock has had anything truly groundbreaking occur. Solid rock bands are few and far between. So talk about rock bands since the mid-nineties that are keeping the rock in rock these days.

Rock is no where near being dead. Rock is not just a type of music. It is an industry. Like all musical industries, the mainstream aspect of the genre will always be plagued by redundancy and monontony. Mainstream artists produce music that is popular at the moment. Most bands that are tied to a major label have a responsibility in producing sales. I am not one of those people that are anti mainstream. Although, if you bothered to devote energy in searching for new bands. You would find a plethora of original rock music. You need to either find a less popularized label or look into un signed artists.
I gaurentee you that if you look hard enough, you will find bands that break the mold and are setting new standards in rock. The only problem that i find with mainstream is that it is harder to get recognized if you are not on a major label. This usually leads to incredible original bands being forced to break up after a few albums because its to hard to compete with the spotlight of the mainstream.

A good place to find some good un discovered bands is actually myspace.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I'd beg to differ.

Then differ.

Re: Re: Is rock dead and/or dying?

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Rock is no where near being dead. Rock is not just a type of music. It is an industry. Like all musical industries, the mainstream aspect of the genre will always be plagued by redundancy and monontony. Mainstream artists produce music that is popular at the moment. Most bands that are tied to a major label have a responsibility in producing sales. I am not one of those people that are anti mainstream. Although, if you bothered to devote energy in searching for new bands. You would find a plethora of original rock music. You need to either find a less popularized label or look into un signed artists.
I gaurentee you that if you look hard enough, you will find bands that break the mold and are setting new standards in rock. The only problem that i find with mainstream is that it is harder to get recognized if you are not on a major label. This usually leads to incredible original bands being forced to break up after a few albums because its to hard to compete with the spotlight of the mainstream.

A good place to find some good un discovered bands is actually myspace.

great post 💃

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Rock is no where near being dead. Rock is not just a type of music. It is an industry. Like all musical industries, the mainstream aspect of the genre will always be plagued by redundancy and monontony. Mainstream artists produce music that is popular at the moment. Most bands that are tied to a major label have a responsibility in producing sales. I am not one of those people that are anti mainstream. Although, if you bothered to devote energy in searching for new bands. You would find a plethora of original rock music. You need to either find a less popularized label or look into un signed artists.
I gaurentee you that if you look hard enough, you will find bands that break the mold and are setting new standards in rock. The only problem that i find with mainstream is that it is harder to get recognized if you are not on a major label. This usually leads to incredible original bands being forced to break up after a few albums because its to hard to compete with the spotlight of the mainstream.

A good place to find some good un discovered bands is actually myspace.

There haven't been new standards set in rock in a long time though, which is exactly my point. I have yet to see an example of someone doing so since 1995. People need to stop pretending like I don't actually know many bands from recent years, but I do. I look, I go to shows, I look on myspace, I check forums, I check dedicated sites, etc. Sure there are plenty of bands outside of the mainstream, but that does mean they are good, and it definitely doesn't mean that new standards are being set. If anything the standards for a good rock band are going backwards outside and inside the mainstream. Something I feel the internet is partially to blame for. Rock is dying.

I remember seeing an old interview back when Don Mcclain released the American Pie song.(I think that was his name).ANyhow,they were talking to some girl that was a fan of his,and she was talking about how he was the last great artist in rock music.

That was a long time ago and plenty of greats have come since then.I think that's something that happens with every new generation of rock.their's always those who will say it's dead.

Originally posted by mr.smiley
I remember seeing an old interview back when Don Mcclain released the American Pie song.(I think that was his name).ANyhow,they were talking to some girl that was a fan of his,and she was talking about how he was the last great artist in rock music.

That was a long time ago and plenty of greats have come since then.I think that's something that happens with every new generation of rock.their's always those who will say it's dead.

While your point has merit, I still believe what I do. I haven't enjoyed every movement in rock, but at least they were happening. Everyone that is of note these days are throwback, vintage, or revival bands imo. The interesting experimental stuff that is shooting off of rock, really isn't rock. Rock in itself seems very very stale to me these days.