Originally posted by AlfheimBecause being able to throw things proves you're a speedy character. 🙄
Did Beast catch his shield and throw it at him? Again Namor caught the shield AND threw it at him.Furthermore that fight was ages ago, Cap has got better and beat his ass in infinity war.
Namor owned Cap more recently.
*throws a quarter against the wall* OMG! I'm Captain America!
I am a little confused with merging and such
Namor will beat wolvie in central park...with flying and hitting him with tree's and such imo
But if i was asked claw to fist in a brawl no flying...wolvie would beat namor....i know its handicaping namor, but his flying and strength advantage just seems too much for wolvie imo
Originally posted by Creshosk
Because being able to throw things proves you're a speedy character. 🙄*throws a quarter against the wall* OMG! I'm Captain America!
Originally posted by Alfheim
He dindt just dodge Caps attack he caught Caps shield then hit him with it. Im pretty sure he could have thrown it much harder.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Did Beast catch his shield and throw it at him? Again Namor caught the shield AND threw it at him.Furthermore that fight was ages ago, Cap has got better and beat his ass in infinity war.
Namor owned Cap more recently.
what woud throwing a shield have to do with speed.............that be strength..................
hell catching the shield would not be speed it be reflex.............
Originally posted by starlock
I am a little confused with merging and suchNamor will beat wolvie in central park...with flying and hitting him with tree's and such imo
But if i was asked claw to fist in a brawl no flying...wolvie would beat namor....i know its handicaping namor, but his flying and strength advantage just seems too much for wolvie imo
In a 1on1 man to man those advantages are not too much for Logan.. they don't prove to be when Wolverine's fighting him, they don't prove to be when he's fighting characters with similar characters (power wise) either like Rogue for instance.
But when he starts applying plot devices to those advantages.. then yeah it's a bit much.
Originally posted by Creshosk
He caught caps shiled and thn he threw it and it hit Cap. Let me repeat again he caught Caps shield threw it at cap and it hit him.
You are giving me an example of throwing something. Your example doesnt fit because your not catching something from somebody with enhanced reflexes and then throwing the same object with enough accuracy to hit him.
So your comparing a wall to Captain America. 😬
Originally posted by AlfheimCatching it might be a speed feat, but throwing it is not, that's an accuracy feat.
He caught caps shiled and thn he threw it and it hit Cap. Let me repeat again he caught Caps shield threw it at cap and it hit him.You are giving me an example of throwing something. Your example doesnt fit because your not catching something from somebody with enhanced reflexes and then throwing the same object with enough accuracy to hit him.
So your comparing a wall to Captain America. 😬
Originally posted by Creshosk
Catching it might be a speed feat, but throwing it is not, that's an accuracy feat.
Ok what skills would you need in order to be accurate? If you were throwing a shield at somebody with enhanced reflexes would you not need to have fast reflexes as well?
Regardless of what you want to call it you would have to be very good. The only other person who I can think of whos done that is Spiderman who has better reflexes than Wolverine. Other people have been able to catch it but not use Caps weapon against him.
Originally posted by AlfheimNope, just skill of throwing objects.
Ok what skills would you need in order to be accurate? If you were throwing a shield at somebody with enhanced reflexes would you not need to have fast reflexes as well?
Originally posted by AlfheimDid beast even try to throw it?
Regardless of what you want to call it you would have to be very good. The only other person who I can think of whos done that is Spiderman who has better reflexes than Wolverine. Other people have been able to catch it but not use Caps weapon against him.
Again, its not a speed feat regardless of how much of a hard on you have for calling it a speed feat. See this is why I say that you ignore context.
"Other people have been able to catch it but not use Caps weapon against him."
Did they try?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Nope, just skill of throwing objects.
Ok then please explain what you need in order to throw an object accurately to hit somebody with enhanced reflexes. For example in order to hit somebody with a punch you need the skill of throwing punches, this consists of reflexes and strength in the muscles.
Dont just tell me you need a skill of throwing an object, what does this skill consist of.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Did beast even try to throw it?"Other people have been able to catch it but not use Caps weapon against him."
Did they try?
No but I tell you what looking at the last fight its unlikely he would be able to catch it now. The fight were he caught the shield was an old one and he was even giving Cap some trouble in H2H, Cap has got better and basically kicked beats ass the last time they fought. The fight with Namor and Cap was more recent so it was impressive that he caught it.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Again, its not a speed feat regardless of how much of a hard on you have for calling it a speed feat.
I see it as a speed feat in the sense that fast reflexes were needed.
Originally posted by Creshosk
See this is why I say that you ignore context.
Im not ignoring anything. I had to explain to you twice that Namor didnt just throw his shield at Cap it hit him as well, but you kept on going on about how just throwing something doesnt make you good. Creshock your perfect.
Originally posted by jinzin
In a 1on1 man to man those advantages are not too much for Logan.. they don't prove to be when Wolverine's fighting him, they don't prove to be when he's fighting characters with similar characters (power wise) either like Rogue for instance.But when he starts applying plot devices to those advantages.. then yeah it's a bit much.
Hey there, i just try and go with the rules of the forum, and i just think with the advantage of flying and stength and fighting to the best of their abilities, namor would win
I do understand the argument that namor is by nature a brawler and would go hand to claw.......but i think namor would be afraid of logan...they have met in the past and namor knows logan can kill him,so i just base it off of namors fear would keep him in the air using tree's and trucks etc
Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok then please explain what you need in order to throw an object accurately to hit somebody with enhanced reflexes. For example in order to hit somebody with a punch you need the skill of throwing punches, this consists of reflexes and strength in the muscles.Dont just tell me you need a skill of throwing an object, what does this skill consist of.
Throwing objects accuratly...
Originally posted by AlfheimThen you can't say
No
"Other people have been able to catch it but not use Caps weapon against him. "
If they didn't try.
Originally posted by Alfheim...
but I tell you what looking at the last fight its unlikely he would be able to catch it now. The fight were he caught the shield was an old one and he was even giving Cap some trouble in H2H, Cap has got better and basically kicked beats ass the last time they fought. The fight with Namor and Cap was more recent so it was impressive that he caught it.
The feat recently where someon caught it is more impressive than the old fight where someone caught it...
What I hear is biased subjectivity from you.
Originally posted by AlfheimAnd they weren't, all you needed to do was throw it accuratly to hit the person.
I see it as a speed feat in the sense that fast reflexes were needed.
So the person who ignores context sees it as a speed feat? Yeah.. that speaks volumes.
Originally posted by AlfheimYeah... you are.
Im not ignoring anything.]
"Other people have been able to catch it but not use Caps weapon against him. "
Originally posted by Alfheim*throws a quarter at a wall* Look, I'm Captain America... again.
I had to explain to you twice that Namor didnt just throw his shield at Cap it hit him as well, but you kept on going on about how just throwing something doesnt make you good. Creshock your perfect.
Hell, *throws quarter at a doorknob 12 feet away and hits the key hole* I'm as fast as him cause I hit a target that was hard to hit. :rollseyes:
Originally posted by starlock
Hey there, i just try and go with the rules of the forum, and i just think with the advantage of flying and stength and fighting to the best of their abilities, namor would winI do understand the argument that namor is by nature a brawler and would go hand to claw.......but i think namor would be afraid of logan...they have met in the past and namor knows logan can kill him,so i just base it off of namors fear would keep him in the air using tree's and trucks etc
Yeah with that strategy he wins for sure.