Namor, The Sub-Mariner vs Wolverine

Originally posted by namorsubby
so you're saying he didn't stick his claws in namor's face with anger while namor was just attempting to talk?........and he didn't jump at the chance to stab namor through the chest while he lent him a helping hand? you think he was holding back because he punched namor off the house instead of stabbing him again?.......but he still did all that stuff beforehand.......that's completely ridiculous.......the scans clearly show that wolvie was in a fighting mood and not cutting any slack......hell, that's his whole character....he's a killer

you might wanna tell that to carver.......but it still doesn't make sense. if he heals back 100% bodily.....then why would his healing factor weaken.....if he's back to 100% health......it's a [b]bodily function.....that whole concept makes no sense.......i dont expect anything more though from wolverine writers [/B]

If you are trying to kill someone, why would you punch them in the face instead of stabbing them? 😕

Originally posted by namorsubby
lol......i have no idea what you mean, but yeah, whatever.

lol, no he couldn't have.......he would've if he could've. he's the killer in the situation, not namor. anmor's the guy who doesn't even really want to fight.....but his hand is force by pestering but utterly useless attacks.

If you are trying to kill someone, would you punch them or stab them? 😕

Its not a hard question.

Originally posted by namorsubby
so you're saying he didn't stick his claws in namor's face with anger while namor was just attempting to talk?........and he didn't jump at the chance to stab namor through the chest while he lent him a helping hand? you think he was holding back because he punched namor off the house instead of stabbing him again?.......but he still did all that stuff beforehand.......that's completely ridiculous.......the scans clearly show that wolvie was in a fighting mood and not cutting any slack......hell, that's his whole character....he's a killer

you might wanna tell that to carver.......but it still doesn't make sense. if he heals back 100% bodily.....then why would his healing factor weaken.....if he's back to 100% health......it's a [b]bodily function.....that whole concept makes no sense.......i dont expect anything more though from wolverine writers [/B]

Logan always threatens people with those claws, he has master control over them. And he knows what wounds Namor can heal from.

His HF slows down. It doesn't run on infinite energy. Therefore I wouldn't say he regenerates back to 100% health in such short time with hf being overloaded.

Originally posted by carver9
This is the fight that Im talking about and Wolverine was fighting two other people THEN namor sneak attack him and STILL get curb stomped.

Namor grabbed something against wolverine, wolverine use no tactics in this battle.

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If it wasnt for us agent, Namor would have been dead.

Namor couldnt even move. Namor got owned, yet again.

lol......you're only proving my point.

before i even address this.....let's get this straight that this is one of namor's absolute lowest feats around......and using it like it's something to regularly expect from him is ludacris, anway:

again, namor does not even want to fight. and again wolvie used a distraction.

lol, these scans seem to show namor having a pretty hard time lifting a small metal object........i cant believe you're even using it honestly.

Originally posted by namorsubby
new invaders #5, i know

lol......you're only proving my point.

before i even address this.....let's get this straight that this is one of namor's absolute lowest feats around......and using it like it's something to regularly expect from him is ludacris, anway:

again, namor does not even want to fight. and again wolvie used a distraction.

lol, these scans seem to show namor having a pretty hard time lifting a small metal object........i cant believe you're even using it honestly.

Even Superman says "UUNHHH!!!" while lifting things.

Wolverine was mind-controlled in that fight AND also missing a piece of his soul... but I guess it's irrelevant 😂

Originally posted by namorsubby
new invaders #5, i know

lol......you're only proving my point.

before i even address this.....let's get this straight that this is one of namor's absolute lowest feats around......and using it like it's something to regularly expect from him is ludacris, anway:

again, namor does not even want to fight. and again wolvie used a distraction.

lol, these scans seem to show namor having a pretty hard time lifting a small metal object........i cant believe you're even using it honestly.

He didnt struggle to lift the pipe, he was moaning because he just got cut across the face.

Namor was PISSED and he wasnt holding back. Where are you getting Namor holding back from because I dont see it.

Why would you bust someone upside the head with a steel pipe that weighs about a ton if you are holding back. 😕

Stop discrediting everything.

Namor got owned just like he got owned during that time you bring up namor one shotting wolvy. Wolverine had him dead to rights on the ground wimpering and holding his chest. Thats all wolverine had to do was cut his head off but he chose to walk off.

Wolverine>Namor

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Even Superman says "UUNHHH!!!" while lifting things.

Wolverine was mind-controlled in that fight AND also missing a piece of his soul... but I guess it's irrelevant 😂

He made that noise because he got slice across the face.

Originally posted by carver9
He didnt struggle to lift the pipe, he was moaning because he just got cut across the face.

Namor was PISSED and he wasnt holding back. Where are you getting Namor holding back from because I dont see it.

Why would you bust someone upside the head with a steel pipe that weighs about a ton if you are holding back. 😕

Stop discrediting everything.

Namor got owned just like he got owned during that time you bring up namor one shotting wolvy. Wolverine had him dead to rights on the ground wimpering and holding his chest. Thats all wolverine had to do was cut his head off but he chose to walk off.

Wolverine>Namor

like i said though......if you think a showing like this is any indication whatsoever as to what namor is capable of......you're sorely mistaken.......horrible showing.......perhaps his worst.......but it's the pinnacle of every wolvie fans argument against him.......wonder why?

edit:

btw.....you said namor was pissed........I guess you've never read a namor comic to see just exactly how namor behaves when he's "pissed"........he does things like KO the hulk and beat up captain marvel......or break out of a mystical hold devised by doc strange......he doesn't stand and talk.

Wolverine v3 #61. Soul thing explained.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Even Superman says "UUNHHH!!!" while lifting things.

Wolverine was mind-controlled in that fight AND also missing a piece of his soul... but I guess it's irrelevant 😂

namor was out of water......lack of water is his greatest weakness.....

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Wolverine v3 #61. Soul thing explained.

Originally posted by namorsubby
100 tonners don't say uunhhh while lifting things that weigh less than a ton.......do you say "uuhhhh" when you lift a piece of paper or a binder?.........do you say "uunhhh" with you lift up the toilet seat to piss........didn't think so.

namor was out of water......lack of water is his greatest weakness.....

They shouldn't say that, but they do.

Which fight are you talking about now?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Logan always threatens people with those claws, he has master control over them. And he knows what wounds Namor can heal from.

His HF slows down. It doesn't run on infinite energy. Therefore I wouldn't say he regenerates back to 100% health in such short time with hf being overloaded.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
They shouldn't say that, but they do.

Which fight are you talking about now?

Originally posted by namorsubby
and i know that this is even in the same timeframe because?

facepalm

Think. Just for one second.

Wolverine was mindcontrolled by HYDRA when he fought Invaders. So that's after Phaedra took that piece.

The fight with Royal Guard and Namor took place in issue 45.

Sub-Mariner #3 was released in 2007 year. Wolverine retrieved that soul piece in 2008.

Originally posted by namorsubby
he stabbed namor right through the chest......for a non-healer that's a killing blow....period........it's been proven that probably nobody in the comic world knows too much about namor's mutant/atlantean/human hybrid physiology......even apocalypse didn't have it figured out......why would you think wolvie would knows what's lethal and what's not for namor? stabbing someone through the chest though......that's generally considered lethal, right?

Because Logan stabbed Namor with six claws in his own series and that didn't kill him 😐

Originally posted by namorsubby
they say it only when they're having trouble lifting something.......and it's the last fight

No.

In the last fight he was wearing the black suit which is supposed to keep him hydrated.

you act as if i knew anything about the soulpiece or when it was taken or retrieved......patience is a virtue my friend.....can you please exhibit some for an ignoramus like myself?

you're right about that black suit.......and i, a namor fan, let it slip my mind........shameful

I'm sorry we don't see eye to eye, but i'm gonna have to agree to disagree here..........i just started thinking of ho many times i've had this same argument with a few different posters, even on diffrent sites......and now i've lost my zest to continue.

Originally posted by namorsubby
and now i've lost my zest to continue.

That should help. dur

that was fast......it's almost seems you keep that image on hand, just in case somebody says "zest" in a sentence.lol

Originally posted by namorsubby
you act as if i knew anything about the soulpiece or when it was taken or retrieved......patience is a virtue my friend.....can you please exhibit some for an ignoramus like myself?

I just assumed you read the scans I posted. Links do work, don't they? Azrael/Lazaer stated when it was taken from Logan. I told you what issue that was. The only thing I maybe should have proved was that he retrieved the piece after Sub-Mariner #3. My bad.

But it doesn't hurt to use google - (issue name and #) marvel catalog 🙂

Originally posted by namorsubby
you're right about that black suit.......and i, a namor fan, let it slip my mind........shameful

Yeah, that made me "WTF" 😛

Originally posted by namorsubby
I'm sorry we don't see eye to eye, but i'm gonna have to agree to disagree here..........i just started thinking of ho many times i've had this same argument with a few different posters, even on diffrent sites......and now i've lost my zest to continue.

Fine.

It's understandable.

Originally posted by namorsubby
that was fast......it's almost seems you keep that image on hand, just in case somebody says "zest" in a sentence.lol