Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I meant all the random "Boo hoo... (I was a prick) and I got banned." nonsense..... 😬 Get over it... and get over yourself...EDIT: Oh I thought this was the Off-topic thread... sorry I've had a bit to drink...
Same I just got back from a bar that was serving $1.25 for a glass of beer
Originally posted by jinzin
not really a fair assessment dizzle...when does wolverine have to dodge bullets?
when does wolverine want to?
Originally posted by jinzin
and how often does he even try?
how much does he succeed when he does try?
Originally posted by jinzin
see the thing is, he doesn't need to dodge bullets.. so he doesn't... when he does, it's either for showing off, or because his healing factors already taxed or something's wrong with it.. but he does succeed when he tries.. and he does so on a consistent basis... you can't argue that him dodging bullets is pis because it's clearly not beyond his capability to do when he does try.. he just doesn't often have the need to be troubled by it...
This interpretation of yours is highly interpretive, and clearly illogical. The fact remains that Wolverine's feats don't appear to match up with what some of his fans are claiming in this thread.
Originally posted by jinzin
QUOTE=5608318]Originally posted by DarkCrawlerstill ignoring solid evidence that obliterates your argument?
subjective reasons from someone very partial to namor.. which have all been reasonably argued back...
"Solid evidence the obliterates my argument?"
Originally posted by jinzin
strawman.. not my argument.. I just don't think 2 good showings vs. namor and one victory should be ignored as easily as you're doing right now.. it's a copout...
If you ignore 68 years of Namor and base all your thinking on one comic...on the first fight, Namor wasn't even trying to fight Wolverien with all his fury until fourth page...
"First, Wolverine attacks. Namor tries to hold his hands off (you can see that in the first page).
Namor is fed up, and hits Wolverine with minimal force, to get him off him.
Wolverine slashes him, Namor dodges so he won't suffer bad wounds, and instead of punching Wolverine back, moves out.
He grabs the wooden rope and throws Wolverine around with him, but Wolverine gets free and attacks Namor again.
Namor gets angry. Wolverine is dropped by one kick.
Namor gets an tree and tries to hit Wolverine with it, Wolverine dodges.
The fight is stopped. On the first three pages, Namor didn't relly do anything agressive that would have showed that he was trying to put Wolverine down for good...on fourth page, he does, and puts down Wolverine with a simple kick and is about to hurt him more radically."
Originally posted by jinzin
depends does captain cold have a majority of the wins?
Nope...Spider-Man and Firelord have on fight...where Spider-Man floored him with couple of punches. Does that mean Spider-Man > Firelord?
Originally posted by jinzin
why do I?
When someone argues that they have seen evidence of something but that the evidence doesn't count because that character "shouldn't be able to do that" they need to re-think the premise of thier conclusion. A characters abilities are based on what he or she demonstrates he or she can do, not on what someone thought they could do at one time.
Not really...I was arguing that character "should be able to do that".
Originally posted by jinzin
-namor hits downwards on an adamntium skull that hurts the hands of brick fighters, on wolverine in a grounded stance...
-your argument's already been refuted by srank on this one
-and finally holding back was later disproved by namor's resort to a plot device for the win...
Doesn't matter. It's adamantium, not vibranium. Just harder then normal metals. If Namor's punches topple battleships and move Hulk, and other things that weigh dozens of times more then Wolverine does, they will move Wolverine. Laws of physics apply at forums, nothing you can do to change it.
So he was obviously not hitting him with full force...because he has moved heavier things with his punches with ease...thus, holding back.
Originally posted by jinzin
actually the slash wasn't that severe... it was the slash, the stab, and the gutting that seemed to do the trick 😉
none of your examples are quite on that level and the amount of adrenaline changes a person's pain threshold..
the "one slash" from the previous fight appears to be a glancing blow..
hell daredevil's stood up to that.. dd must NECESSARILY be as durable as namor.. 🙄
He shouted in pain when the slash hit him. He screamed like a girl when he stabbed and gutted him. Can you explain me why Wolverine's stab would hurt more then Ebony Sword hitting you and coming out from the other side? Or basically being next to miniature sun?
Originally posted by jinzin
wasn't just standing there.. he was getting hit midfight.. that's what happens in fights.. people TRADE blows... 🤨
Hmm...that's funny. Because on their first fight, where Namor also didn't really attack Wolverine besides the fourth page, his dodging made every swing Wolverine executed worthless...
Originally posted by jinzin
I make the same sounds when punching.. I hear the same sounds when my fried's pitching.. neither require lifting strength... seems more like the sound was made as he began to take his swing...
it doesn't appear like he had any difficulty swinging it around....
your inference here is hardly a proof of PIS.. especially since your assumption is directly negated by the feat namor does with the beam next...
0,5 tons would be same to Namor as me lifting a mug from table. Maybe 0,01% of his strength. DO you say "unhh" when lifting a mug? "Unhh" every time when you drink from it?
Originally posted by jinzin
first off, you're comparing an advisor he didn't like in the first place.... to his wife?
second off..
he wasn't taking pity.. just trying to figure out what was going on with wolverine (who he recognizes as a hero).
the rest of the fight didn't have him standing around as you so claim so why keep saying it?
Namor doesn't let ANY Atlantean to be killed. UN once took an citizen of Atlantis as prisoner, and he rallied an army force and invaded New York. And this citizen they captured had attacked Atlantis and bombed it before, so even if he doesn't particulary like someone, doesn't mean that he will let their murder to be unpunished.
And he pretty much stood on one place on page three and four...
Originally posted by jinzin
lol. weakest argument yet.. you deem yourself fit to say that the scene is pis because you don't like the battle stance namor takes? 😂
It does look uncertain...something that Namor has never been...
Originally posted by jinzin
why would he dodge a slash at the tanker?
the next hit came in... probably faster than exected.. (him being an arrogant ass an all) if his hands were in the way = no more hands to hit with... what was he supposed to do get sta--- oh nevermind.. 😕
I mean, that Wolverine slashed the tank first and then attacked Namor. Plenty of time to move out of the way of angry canadian.
Apparently he didn't do it, because he is "arrogant ass" 🙄. Well...he won't be doing it on forum fight because there is not PIS.
Originally posted by jinzin
seven subjective instances that can be easily and reasonably argued against using contradicting evidence rather than inferences... you haven't proved a goddamned thing...
You haven't really contradicted anything either...
Originally posted by jinzin
now seriously... I don't know what the hell your on this rant for.. I've already said.. given the scenario.. and given the plot devices available... namor wins more than he loses... so why are you so quick to argue with me again? getting lonely or something?
I simply don't agree with how easily you cast off the incident because you deem it to be pis when it can (and has frankly) be argued either way...
But it is PIS...Namor could have dodged that stab...but apparently he did not chose to. So it's either Plot Induced Stupidity...or Character Induced...
Originally posted by Eternity
Namor is faster stronger and more durable than wolverine he can also fly. Namor is a very underrated character if he gets a few hits in on wolverine fights over
ur talken about a guy who get slugged by hulk and keeps comming namor gunna neeed more then a few. also faster doesent matter it agility and reflex that matters
Originally posted by wolverine8888
ur talken about a guy who get slugged by hulk and keeps comming namor gunna neeed more then a few. also faster doesent matter it agility and reflex that matters
LOL yeah exactly why Namor smashs Jobberine..............One hit from Namor sends Wolverine into the ocean................instead once again Jobberine handles a 100tonner like Namor is a bar brawler.............right Whatever.
Originally posted by soleran30
LOL yeah exactly why Namor smashs Jobberine..............One hit from Namor sends Wolverine into the ocean................instead once again Jobberine handles a 100tonner like Namor is a bar brawler.............right Whatever.
but that wont happen. wolverien can take namor best shots and wolverien best shot well namor aint living through
Originally posted by jinzin
not really a fair assessment dizzle...when does wolverine have to dodge bullets?
when does wolverine want to?and how often does he even try?
how much does he succeed when he does try?see the thing is, he doesn't need to dodge bullets.. so he doesn't... when he does, it's either for showing off, or because his healing factors already taxed or something's wrong with it.. but he does succeed when he tries.. and he does so on a consistent basis... you can't argue that him dodging bullets is pis because it's clearly not beyond his capability to do when he does try.. he just doesn't often have the need to be troubled by it...
as for taking class 100 shots.. you would have a point.. if all of his showings where fighting bricks... 😕
he fights bricks quite a bit and when he does he takes those shots and then some.. no sense in arguing it.. but because he doesn't fight bricks more than he has overall showing's it's pis? 🤨sorry that argument simply doesn't work.
lol yes, yes it does. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it has any less credibility.
Originally posted by soleran30
LOL yeah exactly why Namor smashs Jobberine..............One hit from Namor sends Wolverine into the ocean................instead once again Jobberine handles a 100tonner like Namor is a bar brawler.............right Whatever.
Or one hit from Wolverine opens Namor from his waist to his shoulders and he falls to the ground and starts hemorrhaging...
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Umm...Wolverine has never took Namor's best shots.Namor's best shots knock out the Hulk and topple battle ships...Wolverine has only taken perhaps his weakest ones...
ya u keep lieng to ur selfand syaing the fight are BS but that won't change that fact that they arnt and wolverien easiliy tagged him.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
but that wont happen. wolverien can take namor best shots and wolverien best shot well namor aint living through
I would like to send you an invitation to a little place called planet earth..........where 100ton hits on a 300lb guy that cannot fly (without the assistance of a 100ton punch)he will be thrown a GREAT distance claws or not.