Originally posted by Silent Master
I guess Wolverine really did win, just look at his punchAnd here is the Hulk laying on the ground ko'd
Now that I can believe. There is just no way Wovlerine can take a full class 100 punch and live. (although this may be before Wolverine got his jobber-aura... 😖hifty: )
Originally posted by Silent Master
Ok.That doesn't look like a win to me.
To be honest with you Wolverine should be one of the biggest chumps in comicdom! The only way he gets by is because for a while he literally had Marvel (the company) on his shoulders .....especially when the entire comic industry was struggling to simply keep the lights on (after the slump caused by speculators, who by the way included upper echelon people like money managers, really messing up the industry).
Anyways, for a while Wolverine was one of the biggest draws for Marvel, and hence to satiate the various fanboys that Wolverine had cultured, Marvel would have Wolverine do things that are simply above him.
The reality of the matter is that Wolverine is:
- A mutant
- Has a skeleton LACED (not made of, laced) with adamantium
- Has claws laced with adamantium, and are sharp enough to cut through ALMOST (note: almost) anything.
- Has a very effective healing factor (although not the best by any measure .....for instance the Hulk's healing factor is far better)
- Is an effective fighter (although in most cases he is merely a brawler .....Wolverine, based on his history, should be a very efficient and techinal fighter. However for the most part he just snarls, unsheaths and sheaths his claws in quick succession for no reason whatsoever, and when he fights he is just hacking and slashing. Yet we are to believe that Wolverine has been through Samurai training, is honor bound by Giri, and adheres to Bushido!?! I loved when Elektra was trying to lead Feral Wolverine back to the ways of Bushido - this was after Magneto had removed the adamantium from him - and it seemed as if Marvel was coming to the realization that Wolverine could be far more honed than he is, however all that was quickly forgoten. Although there is hope with the whole Soul-stealer saga)
- Is short
- Is hairy (with a rather ridiculous hair cut)
- Is named after a small furry animal that has a very bad temper and is said to be quite tenacious
- Likes cigars (and since he is quite 'earthy' they are probably quite cheap)
- Like young Japanese women.
- He has finely tuned senses of smell and hearing.
That is Wolverine.
What he is not:
-He SHOULD not be able to beat nearly ALL of the people he tangles with (characters like Spiderman should play with Wolverine like a toy, and Hulk/Namor level characters would liquefy his insides with one punch). Oh, and he is definitely not a match for Superman or WonderWoman (as certain have stated in the past)
- He is SHOULD not even be a high level character. His power mix may be good enough to get him a place in the Morlocks (the mutant outcasts that used to live in the sewer systems underneath New York city), but I am astounded why even the X-men would want the runt!? Well ....unless they want very well sliced slivers of ham on their breakfast toast!
- He is constantly over-estimated. Logan is many things, but he is simply not the best in anything (well, apart from the whole cheap cigar/young Japanese women thing). Think about it:
> His healing factor is not the best
> His fighting abilities are not the best
> He is not the shortest nor the smaller
> Beast has a better 'Wolverine haircut' than Wolverine himself
> His adamantium setup is not the best (Lady Deathstrike has a better adamantium hookup .....as Wolverine himself said when comparing himself to Yuriko Oyama: 'All I got were the claws and the skeleton... she got the entire package'😉
> He is not the longest lived mutant (goodness, even people like Exodus and Sinister have been on earth longer than Wolverine by centuries, and Apocalypse is simply on a different level. All mutants)
> His anger-management problem is not the worst (WildChild has a far worse anger issue)
> His claw set is not the best (X-23 has a more versatile set due to having an additional claw in each foot, meaning that even her kicks would be deadlier ......and as for hand claws Lady Deathstrikes have far more capability)
> He is not the smartest, fastest, bravest, best looking ........I could go on forever!
Wolverine is simply not the best in anything, including the things that supposedly should be his. As I stated even Beast has a better Wolverine-haircut than Wolverine himself!
HOWEVER, there are 2 things that Wolverine can take the top prize for:
1) Being one of the most perpetually over-estimated characters in comicdom.
Now, some people may say that Doom takes the prize. Or Batman. Some may even say Superman.
But at least Doom and Bruce use their minds to reach their objective, and thus epitomize the whole mind over bruteforce/matter/strength ideal that has marked the human race ever since the first cave man killed a wooly Mammoth.
And Superman is ....well .....let's just say that he was so powerful DC had to 'cool him down' a bit, and even then he was still extremely powerful.
BUT Wolverine is just some short dude with ginsu-knives popping out of his ham-fists
2) The second thing Wolverine gets top prize for?
Well, he is the strongest character in Marvel .....bar none!
What!??!
Have I gone mad?????
Well, no. Every single time Wolverine pops his claws he proves, beyond all reasonable doubt, that he is in fact the strongest person in Marvel.
How:
Well, adamantium is supposed to be almost unbreakable. As close to unbreakable as matter can come.
Alright,and it has been shown that Wolverine's claws extend from deep in his forearms to just behind the spaces between his knuckles, and that when he pops them they extend through the spaces between the knuckles.
Ok ......when he is fighting Wolverine has been shown bending his wrists.
Bending his wrists, even when he has several adamantium coated claws (which are so long that they extend about a foot OUTSIDE when he pops them).
The guy bends his wrist at will, with the adamantium apparently being so malleable that it might not be there at all to begin with.
(End Saracasm)
Wolverine is a chump!
Just because you hate Wolverine, doesn't mean that we have to listen to your stupid rant about him. Most of what ur saying is completely your opinion and shouldn't even be used in this thread or any other thread. Wolverine is awesome and just because he is liked and is not the most powerful being in Marvel, does not mean that he is a chump or anything that you posted. Give me a favorite of yours and I could basically do the same exact thing that you did with Wolverine. What you just did there is completely stupid and low.
Originally posted by spetznaz
To be honest with you Wolverine should be one of the biggest chumps in comicdom! The only way he gets by is because for a while he literally had Marvel (the company) on his shoulders .....especially when the entire comic industry was struggling to simply keep the lights on (after the slump caused by speculators, who by the way included upper echelon people like money managers, really messing up the industry).Anyways, for a while Wolverine was one of the biggest draws for Marvel, and hence to satiate the various fanboys that Wolverine had cultured, Marvel would have Wolverine do things that are simply above him.
The reality of the matter is that Wolverine is:
- A mutant
- Has a skeleton LACED (not made of, laced) with adamantium
- Has claws laced with adamantium, and are sharp enough to cut through ALMOST (note: almost) anything.
- Has a very effective healing factor (although not the best by any measure .....for instance the Hulk's healing factor is far better)
- Is an effective fighter (although in most cases he is merely a brawler .....Wolverine, based on his history, should be a very efficient and techinal fighter. However for the most part he just snarls, unsheaths and sheaths his claws in quick succession for no reason whatsoever, and when he fights he is just hacking and slashing. Yet we are to believe that Wolverine has been through Samurai training, is honor bound by Giri, and adheres to Bushido!?! I loved when Elektra was trying to lead Feral Wolverine back to the ways of Bushido - this was after Magneto had removed the adamantium from him - and it seemed as if Marvel was coming to the realization that Wolverine could be far more honed than he is, however all that was quickly forgoten. Although there is hope with the whole Soul-stealer saga)
- Is short
- Is hairy (with a rather ridiculous hair cut)
- Is named after a small furry animal that has a very bad temper and is said to be quite tenacious
- Likes cigars (and since he is quite 'earthy' they are probably quite cheap)
- Like young Japanese women.
- He has finely tuned senses of smell and hearing.That is Wolverine.
What he is not:
-He SHOULD not be able to beat nearly ALL of the people he tangles with (characters like Spiderman should play with Wolverine like a toy, and Hulk/Namor level characters would liquefy his insides with one punch). Oh, and he is definitely not a match for Superman or WonderWoman (as certain have stated in the past)
- He is SHOULD not even be a high level character. His power mix may be good enough to get him a place in the Morlocks (the mutant outcasts that used to live in the sewer systems underneath New York city), but I am astounded why even the X-men would want the runt!? Well ....unless they want very well sliced slivers of ham on their breakfast toast!
- He is constantly over-estimated. Logan is many things, but he is simply not the best in anything (well, apart from the whole cheap cigar/young Japanese women thing). Think about it:
> His healing factor is not the best
> His fighting abilities are not the best
> He is not the shortest nor the smaller
> Beast has a better 'Wolverine haircut' than Wolverine himself
> His adamantium setup is not the best (Lady Deathstrike has a better adamantium hookup .....as Wolverine himself said when comparing himself to Yuriko Oyama: 'All I got were the claws and the skeleton... she got the entire package'😉
> He is not the longest lived mutant (goodness, even people like Exodus and Sinister have been on earth longer than Wolverine by centuries, and Apocalypse is simply on a different level. All mutants)
> His anger-management problem is not the worst (WildChild has a far worse anger issue)
> His claw set is not the best (X-23 has a more versatile set due to having an additional claw in each foot, meaning that even her kicks would be deadlier ......and as for hand claws Lady Deathstrikes have far more capability)
> He is not the smartest, fastest, bravest, best looking ........I could go on forever!Wolverine is simply not the best in anything, including the things that supposedly should be his. As I stated even Beast has a better Wolverine-haircut than Wolverine himself!
HOWEVER, there are 2 things that Wolverine can take the top prize for:
1) Being one of the most perpetually over-estimated characters in comicdom.
Now, some people may say that Doom takes the prize. Or Batman. Some may even say Superman.
But at least Doom and Bruce use their minds to reach their objective, and thus epitomize the whole mind over bruteforce/matter/strength ideal that has marked the human race ever since the first cave man killed a wooly Mammoth.
And Superman is ....well .....let's just say that he was so powerful DC had to 'cool him down' a bit, and even then he was still extremely powerful.
BUT Wolverine is just some short dude with ginsu-knives popping out of his ham-fists2) The second thing Wolverine gets top prize for?
Well, he is the strongest character in Marvel .....bar none!
What!??!
Have I gone mad?????
Well, no. Every single time Wolverine pops his claws he proves, beyond all reasonable doubt, that he is in fact the strongest person in Marvel.How:
Well, adamantium is supposed to be almost unbreakable. As close to unbreakable as matter can come.
Alright,and it has been shown that Wolverine's claws extend from deep in his forearms to just behind the spaces between his knuckles, and that when he pops them they extend through the spaces between the knuckles.
Ok ......when he is fighting Wolverine has been shown bending his wrists.
Bending his wrists, even when he has several adamantium coated claws (which are so long that they extend about a foot OUTSIDE when he pops them).
The guy bends his wrist at will, with the adamantium apparently being so malleable that it might not be there at all to begin with.
(End Saracasm)Wolverine is a chump!
Spetznaz, that was beautiful cry
Originally posted by batdude123
Just because you hate Wolverine, doesn't mean that we have to listen to your stupid rant about him. Most of what ur saying is completely your opinion and shouldn't even be used in this thread or any other thread. Wolverine is awesome and just because he is liked and is not the most powerful being in Marvel, does not mean that he is a chump or anything that you posted. Give me a favorite of yours and I could basically do the same exact thing that you did with Wolverine. What you just did there is completely stupid and low.
LOL. I knew it would elicit a reaction (I just wish Wolverine8888 was here. Then it would surely cause visceral reactions)
Anyways, guess I'll have to do with you.
What I said is, as you correctly noted, my opinion (by the way, have you also noted that the sun rises in the east, and that gravity indeed exists? Any other obvious gem of observation you'd like to share?)
Furthermore what I said about Wolverine not being the best at anything is true .....prove me wrong based on the list I put there. You do not even have to prove every article .....just show me ONE aspect that was incorrect in what I wrote under the things that Wolverine is not the best in.
A favorite character of mine for you to mangle.
Hmmm, that's easy since I have many favorites.
Let me select one .....say, Wolverine.
Yes, Wolverine is one of my favorite characters (most of my top 10 are actually Marvel characters, then Image, and then maybe 3 DC characters ......it is just that I abhor it when Marvel fanboys, as opposed to Marvel fans, make average characters appear uber).
Thus, mangle Wolverine to your heart's content.
If you want another character that is a top fave of mine ....well, Black Panther.
T'Challa is in my top 3.
Mangle him.
See if it is as easy as it is to poke holes at the sheer stupidity that surrounds Wolverine.
Wolvie is a chump.
Originally posted by batdude123
^Why do you have such a big beef about Wolverine?
You just joined recently, thus you probably do not have enough history on just how the whole Wolverine subject has led to a lot of idiocy here at KMC.
Maybe by now someone has mentioned to you that there was a member called Wolverine8888, and that guy would (adamantly) maintain beyond all logic that Wolverine could do things that he couldn't.
This thread BTW should have some of his posts since it was started a while back.
Anyways, Wolverine is one of my fave characters ....as a character.
However, the Wolverine (I prefer to call that character Wulbereen, due to the atrocious spelling Wolverine8888 used to use) that people like Wolverine8888 created is, simply put, abhorent to me.
I wish you were around when Wolverine8888 was a member .....that dude made many people get turned off by Wolverine.
Anyways, to straighten things out:
Wolverine is a nice character.
Wulbereen (and by this I mean the idiotic 'uber-wolverine' that can, according to W8888 beat Wonderwoman and Namor and Superman, and according to fanboys who voted in the DC/Marvel crossover beat Lobo, and that can tangle with the Hulk) is a CHUMP. Let me also include a good portion of the Wolverine showings where Marvel made him into a veritable demi-god just to keep fanboys buying X-men comics (although I don't fault Marvel for that .....the entire industry was sinking and they needed a way to keep fans, and fanboys, interested ....and Wolverine was it).
Thus it might help if in my posts above you replace 'Wolverine' with 'Wulbereen.'
Anyways, older members know just how Wolverine8888 was. I miss the guy somewhat (after all it was fun having someone that easy to laugh AT), but the guy was a sot.
Originally posted by batdude123
Blade
Hulk(He's beaten him once or twice, don't argue with me about it)
Elektra
Batman(possibly-if he fought stupidly and without prep)
Captain America
Thing(Same situation as Hulk)
Samurai Jack
The Hulk has beaten Wolverine any time the two fought.Wolverine never beat The Hulk.Don't say lies,please.
Originally posted by Morgrulesall
The Hulk has beaten Wolverine any time the two fought.Wolverine never beat The Hulk.Don't say lies,please.
the hell? guess you're not aware of wolverine's winning record vs. hulk as credited by marvel themselves eh?
guess you're not aware that wolverine's nearly killed hulk either eh?
Originally posted by Next Venom_girl
Namor.💃 Hulk beats Wolverine. Namor beats the Hulk. Therefore Namor beats Wolverine. 💃
orrrrrrr wolverine's beaten namor... nearly killed hulk therefore wolverine beats namor...
😂
(can't wait for dc's reaction)