Originally posted by soleran30
Wolverine can get in a win or 2 but certainly not the majority over Namor especially if namor is slinging trees around and bashing him..sure go ahead pick on my favorite guy..............Deadpool! I don't care who can beat him in a fight cuz not many comic characters are as funny🙂
namor has tried that tactic before.. hasn't gotten him a win yet....
Originally posted by jinzinorrrrrrr wolverine's beaten namor... nearly killed hulk therefore wolverine beats namor...
😂
(can't wait for dc's reaction)
If you'd read a few pages back, you would have already seen it. 😉
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Bad writing does not count. ❌
Originally posted by jinzin
namor has tried that tactic before.. hasn't gotten him a win yet....
It's just that Namor never has fought Wolverine with all his fury and power put on it.
Originally posted by jinzin
neither has wolverine.... not much of a point really...
Yeah, but it's difference. All that Wolverine could do would be stabbing faster and more furiously.
Where as when Namor's angry, or puts his mind on it, his punches move faster then Wolverine could dream about, topple battleships, Send Dr. Doom flying a mile away and knock out Beta Ray Bill and Hulk.
There's a difference.
Originally posted by jinzin
neither has wolverine.... not much of a point really...anyway i'm just givin you a hard time... we've already been round this tree enough times to know no one's changing minds around here.
LOL Wolverine has been feral and attacked Namor.
On the other hand Namor has never gotten "medival" on Wolverine in the same fashion.
Sometimes Wolverine fans are just as feral in defense of their comic "hero."
Namor is leagues beyond Wolverine its just that no one at marvel wants to scrap Wolverine from the comics so they give him a way out in the writing.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Yeah, but it's difference. All that Wolverine could do would be stabbing faster and more furiously.Where as when Namor's angry, or puts his mind on it, his punches move faster then Wolverine could dream about, topple battleships, Send Dr. Doom flying a mile away and knock out Beta Ray Bill and Hulk.
There's a difference.
wolverine's senses healing factor and fighting ability all increase.. for a guy who's had problems with captain america this might be an issue..
Originally posted by soleran30
LOL Wolverine has been feral and attacked Namor.On the other hand Namor has never gotten "medival" on Wolverine in the same fashion.
Sometimes Wolverine fans are just as feral in defense of their comic "hero."
Namor is leagues beyond Wolverine its just that no one at marvel wants to scrap Wolverine from the comics so they give him a way out in the writing.
feral? more like mind controlled...
not the same as a true berserker rage...
there's a reason a number of those blows wolverine landed on namor's face were without the claws...
Originally posted by jinzinYeah, he certainly has had them...just not since 1940's. 65 years of experience actually counts for something.
wolverine's senses healing factor and fighting ability all increase.. for a guy who's had problems with captain america this might be an issue..
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Yeah, he certainly has had them...just not since 1940's. 65 years of experience actually counts for something.
http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captnamor31vu.gif
apparently they do 🙄
The fact remains that all Namor has to do to win is grab Wolverine's arms (and with 100class strength Wolverine isn't getting loose) and fly to the nearest body of water and drown him. Or Namor can simply fly 10 or 15 feet in the air and use a semi-truck to beat Wolverine to death. Namor doesn't even have to get close to Wolverine to beat him.
Some leeway has to be given to writers because in decades of publishing Marvel stories, you can find evidence of just about all of the major characters beating each other at some point in time. Luckily on this forum we assume that each fighter will use their powers to the best of their abilities. And as Wolverine's popularity has increased, the greater he has been to raised in the overall Marvel hierarchy. It is not a reflection of his stated abilities that he can last more than five seconds against the top tier characters in Marvel, just Marvel giving fans what it thinks they want to keep selling issues.
Originally posted by jinzin
apparently they do 🙄
You are aware that that is a flashback fight? Happens at 1940's.
http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvscapt16dm.gif
See that old man over there? That's President Roosevelt. As an American, you should know that he isn't alive anymore.
I do know my Namor comics.
🙄 <<<- Annoying, isn't it?
Originally posted by jinzin
feral? more like mind controlled...not the same as a true berserker rage...
there's a reason a number of those blows wolverine landed on namor's face were without the claws...
Feral, child like, warrior mode it doesn't matter a 300lb man isn't going to be where you left him when someone who can LIFT 100 tons(punching will create FAR more force) punchs them.
Yes once again namor only has to grab his hands and its OVER of just as someone said grab a truck of tree and Wolverine is paste!
WAHOO Namor beats the runt to last year.
Originally posted by TheKahn
The fact remains that all Namor has to do to win is grab Wolverine's arms (and with 100class strength Wolverine isn't getting loose) and fly to the nearest body of water and drown him. Or Namor can simply fly 10 or 15 feet in the air and use a semi-truck to beat Wolverine to death. Namor doesn't even have to get close to Wolverine to beat him.Some leeway has to be given to writers because in decades of publishing Marvel stories, you can find evidence of just about all of the major characters beating each other at some point in time. Luckily on this forum we assume that each fighter will use their powers to the best of their abilities. And as Wolverine's popularity has increased, the greater he has been to raised in the overall Marvel hierarchy. It is not a reflection of his stated abilities that he can last more than five seconds against the top tier characters in Marvel, just Marvel giving fans what it thinks they want to keep selling issues.
dude I've always been in favor of namor winning WITH plot devices in his favor... in spite of the fact that he's USED plot devices in both fights and they didn't help him... but the fact is cap has gotten his mits on namor.... wolverine hitting him isn't out of the question and HAS happened.... on numerous occasions...
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
You are aware that that is a flashback fight? Happens at 1940's.http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvscapt16dm.gif
See that old man over there? That's President Roosevelt. As an American, you should know that he isn't alive anymore.
I do know my Namor comics.
🙄 <<<- Annoying, isn't it?
not really annoying it doesn't disprove the point I was trying to make.
Originally posted by soleran30
Feral, child like, warrior mode it doesn't matter a 300lb man isn't going to be where you left him when someone who can LIFT 100 tons(punching will create FAR more force) punchs them.Yes once again namor only has to grab his hands and its OVER of just as someone said grab a truck of tree and Wolverine is paste!
WAHOO Namor beats the runt to last year.
actually last year it was the other way around... 😉
Originally posted by jinzin
dude I've always been in favor of namor winning WITH plot devices in his favor... in spite of the fact that he's USED plot devices in both fights and they didn't help him... but the fact is cap has gotten his mits on namor.... wolverine hitting him isn't out of the question and HAS happened.... on numerous occasions...
How many is "numerous"? The "Enemy of the State" storyline is the only one that has been shown or mentioned. As for Cap hitting Namor, didn't DarkCrawler show that that only happened back in the 40's? Like he said 65 or so years of training and experience counts for something.
And so now the only way for someone who is faster, stronger, quicker, and has greater mobility than Wolverine to beat him is through a plot device eer. Namor's powers mean that he can beat Wolverine without even getting within Wolverine's range. That isn't a plot device, its called being outclassed.
He is fast enough to snatch missiles out of the air but you don't think he could grab Wolverine's arms.... 😕
Originally posted by TheKahn
How many is "numerous"? The "Enemy of the State" storyline is the only one that has been shown or mentioned. As for Cap hitting Namor, didn't DarkCrawler show that that only happened back in the 40's? Like he said 65 or so years of training and experience counts for something.And so now the only way for someone who is faster, stronger, quicker, and has greater mobility than Wolverine to beat him is through a plot device eer. Namor's powers mean that he can beat Wolverine without even getting within Wolverine's range. That isn't a plot device, its called being outclassed.
He is fast enough to snatch missiles out of the air but you don't think he could grab Wolverine's arms.... 😕
actually there have been two fights.. one was a stalemate... the other was in wolverine's favor...
there have been quite a few times that namor has been hit by street level people it's not out of the question.. you'de think a guy who can literally see bullets coming at him would make namor look like he's in slow mo....
and winning by hitting wolverine with a tree or burrying him is still a win by plot device... still a win but by plot device nonetheless.
Originally posted by jinzin
actually there have been two fights.. one was a stalemate... the other was in wolverine's favor...there have been quite a few times that namor has been hit by street level people it's not out of the question.. you'de think a guy who can literally see bullets coming at him would make namor look like he's in slow mo....
and winning by hitting wolverine with a tree or burrying him is still a win by plot device... still a win but by plot device nonetheless.
There are quite a few times Flash has been hit by street level people. There are quite a few times when Superman has been hit by street level people.
It's called PIS.
Also, you say that Wolverine would see Namor in slow mo...well, Wolverine has been hit by street level people too. You are not biased at all, aren't you? 🤨
And the fight in the Enemy of State doesn't count because of the obvious PIS and CIS Namor is treated with. And on the other fight, Namor was pretty much fighting defensively until page 4. Until he dropped Wolverine on the ground with a kick. What do you think that would have happened if he had continued punching Wolverine in about dozen times per second?
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3192/wolverinehits10qj.gif
That.
http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/4242/wolverinehits88qa.gif
^take that in notion too.
Conclusion...Wolverine doesn't have a hope against Class 100 characters if they don't fight peacefully. Like Namor did in their both fights. And Namor does not fight peacefully. I guess that Wolverine has some secondary mutation that gets everyone who fight him to do it like morons...
