Originally posted by MindshipYou mean the non-canon picture that didn't and could not happen in 616 continutiy? The picture of something that 616 hulk has failed to do to 616 wolvie depite trying?
You know that pic of Hulk ripping Wolverine in half?
Substitute Namor...cept he would do it after he first knocked W out.BTW, what's the story with Namor's healing speed? Just how incapacitated would he be if Wolverine got in a shot?
Yeah Namor would win, but let's not kid ourselves.
Originally posted by Creshosk
You mean the non-canon picture that didn't and could not happen in 616 continutiy? The picture of something that 616 hulk has failed to do to 616 wolvie depite trying?Yeah Namor would win, but let's not kid ourselves.
That's the pic.
And what about Namor's healing speed? Human speed? Lil' faster?
Originally posted by spetznaz
I can almost say I detest Wolverine now .....something I never used to do before KMC. Wolverine's fanboys literally poisoned the character for me.
i compleatly agree with you
wolvie is badass, a really cool character, but ya, everytime I hear people talk idiocy about how strong he is, it makes me dislike him just a bit more....
I think it was one of the spidey vs wolverine threads that did it for me 😛
Originally posted by inamilist
i compleatly agree with youwolvie is badass, a really cool character, but ya, everytime I hear people talk idiocy about how strong he is, it makes me dislike him just a bit more....
I think it was one of the spidey vs wolverine threads that did it for me 😛
I NEVER liked Wolverine, but until I came to KMC I didn't hate him. He annoyed me, but I didn't mind him.
You bastards almost did it to Spidey. Good thing I pretty much straigthened up all the other Spidey fanboys to accept a loss.
lets be honest here with ur selfs. u say wolverien fan boys are terrable right? well how many of them are on this sight? there are hardly any. superman fan boys and spiderman fan boys out number them by quite a lot.
also u say wolverine fan boys are terrable? The wolverine hater make the wolverine fan boys look mellow.
Originally posted by capt it up
lets be honest here with ur selfs. u say wolverien fan boys are terrable right? well how many of them are on this sight? there are hardly any. superman fan boys and spiderman fan boys out number them by quite a lot.
also u say wolverine fan boys are terrable? The wolverine hater make the wolverine fan boys look mellow.
as far as i can tell, 2
there are lots of spider-man FBs and Superman fanboys, however, superman is normally capable (at least has comic showings) of the absurd things he is claimed to be able to do, and there are reletively few threads that involve spiderman.... which is odd....
lol, you are correct, there is lots of wolverine hate, in fact, i think you are one of the few fan(boys) who even bothers to show proofs for wolverine, and the hate is because, most of the time, its like arguing with a 2 year old. Someone just makes a claim, then repeats it for 13 pages... It gets annoying with any character, it just seems to happen any time wolverine is brought up
Originally posted by inamilist
as far as i can tell, 2there are lots of spider-man FBs and Superman fanboys, however, superman is normally capable (at least has comic showings) of the absurd things he is claimed to be able to do, and there are reletively few threads that involve spiderman.... which is odd....
lol, you are correct, there is lots of wolverine hate, in fact, i think you are one of the few fan(boys) who even bothers to show proofs for wolverine, and the hate is because, most of the time, its like arguing with a 2 year old. Someone just makes a claim, then repeats it for 13 pages... It gets annoying with any character, it just seems to happen any time wolverine is brought up
There's fanboys for any popular character. On this forum, the worst are, by far, Wolverine and Spiderman, (on occasion... there used to be a lot more Spiderman stuff going on) but I wouldn't extend that to all people who like Wolverine. Basically, I just hate fanboys who refuse to prove anything in general.
Oh, and I LOVE your new sig, inamilist.
Originally posted by capt it up
lets be honest here with ur selfs. u say wolverien fan boys are terrable right? well how many of them are on this sight? there are hardly any. superman fan boys and spiderman fan boys out number them by quite a lot.
also u say wolverine fan boys are terrable? The wolverine hater make the wolverine fan boys look mellow.
Originally posted by spetznaz
No way Jose!
Not even close, and I'll explain why.When it comes to Superman (or for that matter a character like Sentry, who had a one-person 'fanboy' around 7 months back, and other characters of that caliber) it is hard for someone to qualify as a TRUE fanboy.
Why?
Well, because the powers and attributes of the character are so potent and varied that it is very difficult for one to really go off the deep-end with them.For instance (to use Superman) take the speedblitz: Supes has been shown as going at speeds that approach (and in one case I know, and this is for post-crisis btw, surpassing) the speed of light. On top of that he has also been depicted fighting opponents at great speed.
Thus it implies that blitzing is a viable option.What about his strength? Same thing. Even when handled by a writer who tones down his higher end capabilities when it comes to strength, Superman is still extremely capable. And if you look at his average strength feats (even if one ignores the high-end pre-crisis stuff and just takes an average of the post-crisis stuff) Superman is easily FAR beyond the 100-ton scale used by marvel.
Moving to Marvel (and using the aforementioned example of the Sentry) the same stuff applies.
It would be really hard to say Sentry could do something that he has not been written as either:
a) Doing
b) Capable of doing.Going back to DC one finds the Flash as another character that is quite difficult for one to 'stretch' abilities for. That character is speed incarnate, and the speed force covers a multitude of sins.
Moving back to Marvel one finds a character like the Silver Surfer.
It is also hard to be a TRUE 'fanboy' of the Surfer, since when it comes to everything from speed to strength to energy that character is off the charts.Anyways, for the higher echelon characters in both DC and Marvel it is really really really hard for someone to qualify as a fanboy. The only way that would be possible is if:
a) Someone started making threads/posts/assertions that (said) character can take on the 'entire Marvel universe' or the 'entire DC universe' (for instance a certain Marvel fanboy used to have the knack for matching c-level Marvel characters against the 'entire DCU'😉
b) Having skewed matchups (for example say having a 'Flash vs the Living Tribunal' or 'the Silver Surfer vs the Presence'😉.Apart from such situations it is very hard to be a true fanboy of the upper echelon characters.
......but then comes Wolverine.......
Wolverine is just (and I mean it ....just) a short clawed hairy mutant with a penchant for cigars and need for a good barber.
He may be a good fighter, but he is not anywhere NEAR the league of characters like WonderWoman and Superman (you should have read some of Wolverine8888's comments on who would win between Wolverine and Superman, and then to make matters worse he started blaming his little brother for that).That is the key thing about fanboys .....lack of logic.
If someone says that the Silver Surfer can speedblitz someone at many times the speed of light, that is alright. Why? Because SS has been written as being able to transcend the speed of light many times over.
If someone writes Superman as blitzing a character with a thousand punches a second, heat vision, freeze breath, etc etc that is alright. Why? Because he has been written as doing that.
If someone writes the Flash as giving someone an infinite mass punch that is alright. There are scans of him doing that.HOWEVER if someone makes a character like Wolverine into some deity, and then adamantly claims that Wolverine can 'beat this and beat that' character (even when Wolvie is not even worthy of fighting characters TEN LEVELS BELOW the character he is allegedly supposed to be able to beat), then THAT is a fanboy.
I remember the guy who used to be a great fan of Sentry (and basically stood by his character like crazy).
In my opinion he was NOT a fanboy .....just a fan.
Because it is really hard to say Sentry can do something and he cannot.However Wolverine8888 is the epitome of fanboy, namely he is:
1) Illogical.
2) Get's excited to the point of:
a) Spouting forth bad language
b) Liberal usage of bad spelling
c) Making threats (it was hilarious when he would threaten people with 'beatings'😉
d) Going loco whenever people would claim Wolvie would lose.3) Standing for a character that is best merely a popular street-leveler and claiming that such a character can stand up against people of a far higher caliber.
4) 'Adding' (to put it midly) new abilities/powers that the writers have never given to the character (eg according to W8888 Wolverine's skeleton was made of solid adamantium)That is a fanboy, and when it comes to upper echelon characters like Superman (or Sentry, or SSurfer) it is very difficult to achieve that, since the writers have given those characters so much power and varied feats (especially when it comes to Superman and the Surfer, since the Sentry while powerful doesn't have as many stories written about him) that it is next to impossible to say they can do something that they haven't been written as doing.
However take characters like Wolverine and you have a minefield of fanboyism.
Originally posted by inamilist
as far as i can tell, 2there are lots of spider-man FBs and Superman fanboys, however, superman is normally capable (at least has comic showings) of the absurd things he is claimed to be able to do, and there are reletively few threads that involve spiderman.... which is odd....
lol, you are correct, there is lots of wolverine hate, in fact, i think you are one of the few fan(boys) who even bothers to show proofs for wolverine, and the hate is because, most of the time, its like arguing with a 2 year old. Someone just makes a claim, then repeats it for 13 pages... It gets annoying with any character, it just seems to happen any time wolverine is brought up
Originally posted by TheKahn
Originally posted by Dizzle
There's fanboys for any popular character. On this forum, the worst are, by far, Wolverine and Spiderman, (on occasion... there used to be a lot more Spiderman stuff going on) but I wouldn't extend that to all people who like Wolverine. Basically, I just hate fanboys who refuse to prove anything in general.Oh, and I LOVE your new sig, inamilist.
im releativly new here, I think I missed this horde of Spidey FBs that I keep hearing referance to, for better or worse
LOL, thanks
that quote is amazing, and since that tourney bonus thing I have come to realize that Man-Thing is amazing
Originally posted by capt it up
I see( and I see ur piont). I know u all think it very bad and annoying, but looka t it from another few. imagin ur the wolverine fan and the person ur agrueiing just claims every thing is PIS. honestly most wolverine haters show no prove at all, they just say it PIS or it BS.
also the reason wolverine is brought up so much is becuase wolverine haters a lot of the time, make the threads to trash wolverine or to trash fans of wolverine. That is why u will find mostly fans of wolverine who show no prove becuase the fact is who wants to show prove when the people u debate don't care they just ignor it.
for the most part i agree, except there are numerous posters here that are normally capable of backing up what they say with scans or evidence. Try not to get caught up in circular arguments and its really easy to keep your cool 🙂
Originally posted by capt it up
what was the piont in showing me that? please tell me? why would u? to be mean? to try and hurt my feels? all u did was make me most all respect I had for u in one simple post. yes u must feel tough quoting spez wow ur the big man now, honestly that was childish and no worth of attention.
I don't think he was attacking you... You said that all fanboys are equally bad, and that there are plenty of them for other characters besides Wolverine. Spetz's post, while very long, says that even though Superman has hardcore fans, most anything they say he can do has been done by him in comics, and therefore they aren't really fanboys. It was basically a page long definition of what he considers a "fanboy" to be. He was disagreeing with you, but he wasn't trying to make fun of you at all. Khan's a good guy, he wouldn't do that to someone, unless they are, in fact, a fanboy. TheKhan is a ruthless fanboy hunter... 347 kills to date, 80% of them full grown. 5 of the others were mangled beyond recognition. It was crazy.
Originally posted by inamilist
im releativly new here, I think I missed this horde of Spidey FBs that I keep hearing referance to, for better or worseLOL, thanks
that quote is amazing, and since that tourney bonus thing I have come to realize that Man-Thing is amazing
for the most part i agree, except there are numerous posters here that are normally capable of backing up what they say with scans or evidence. Try not to get caught up in circular arguments and its really easy to keep your cool 🙂
Originally posted by Dizzle
I don't think he was attacking you... You said that all fanboys are equally bad, and that there are plenty of them for other characters besides Wolverine. Spetz's post, while very long, says that even though Superman has hardcore fans, most anything they say he can do has been done by him in comics. He was disagreeing with you, but he wasn't trying to make fun of you at all. Khan's a good guy, he wouldn't do that to someone, unless they're a fanboy. TheKhan is a ruthless fanboy hunter... 347 kills to date, 80% of them full grown. 5 of the others were mangled beyond recognition. It was crazy.
ive seen the trophies......
that khan is one bad motha
Originally posted by Dizzle
I don't think he was attacking you... You said that all fanboys are equally bad, and that there are plenty of them for other characters besides Wolverine. Spetz's post, while very long, says that even though Superman has hardcore fans, most anything they say he can do has been done by him in comics, and there for they aren't really fanboys. It was basically a page long definition of what he considers a "fanboy" to be. He was disagreeing with you, but he wasn't trying to make fun of you at all. Khan's a good guy, he wouldn't do that to someone, unless they're a fanboy. TheKhan is a ruthless fanboy hunter... 347 kills to date, 80% of them full grown. 5 of the others were mangled beyond recognition. It was crazy.
Originally posted by capt it up
what was the piont in showing me that? please tell me? why would u? to be mean? to try and hurt my feelings? all u did was make me most all respect I had for u in one simple post. yes u must feel tough quoting spez wow ur the big man now, honestly that was childish and not worthy of attention.
I assure you that my intentions were not malevolent and that post was not intended to be a personal attack (although it was worded strongly). If it offended you, I apologize. I merely wished to demonstrate that old say that "those who live in glass houses..." applies on this board.
Now I can understand frustration with fanboys, we all can. However, I feel is hints at hypocrisy to complain about other fanboys and the anti-Wolverine bias present on this board when, in all honestly, you and others had a hand in creating it by the same tactics used by the fanboys you so adamantly admonish.