Namor, The Sub-Mariner vs Wolverine

Started by capt it up163 pages

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Lets see...well, the most glaring piece of blatant PIS from the issue is Namor acting peacefully after Wolverine had killed his advisor in front of his eyes. Namor doesn't act peacefully...ever...especially if Atlantean has been killed. Let's see history about Namor's fights against this type of Things:

An Alien woman, Tamara, who previously had attacked Atlantis but had been forgiven, was captured by U.N, even though she had done nothing wrong. Did Namor talk to them peacefully? Hell no, he made a invasion force and held New York captive until Tamara was freed.

Doom slapped a woman that Namor thought was his mother. Did Namor hover around him and had a peaceful chit-chat with him?
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No, he beat him to pulp until he couldn't move.

What about Llyra? A woman who was responsible of the murders of Namor's wife and father? Did Namor have a talk? Well, no. Gotta warn you, this isn't actually very pretty sight.
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8225/angry0ra.gif

Oh yeah, here he sees some punks beating an old man. Does he ask: "Why do you bother that old man, punks?". No, he beats the shit out of them.
http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/757/angry26pd.gif

So, how do you think that Namor would act if someone murdered an Atlantean in front of his eyes? Not like he acted in that comic. And that really makes the whole fight PIS, and can't be used in VS fights.

Unless you want to make a Versus match with Wolverine against Mahatma Gandhi in Namor's body.


actauly not at all. first that guy is not related to him. second he knwos wolverien and has foughten by his side befor it not odd that he ask him why he atatcked them.

Originally posted by capt it up
actauly not at all. first that guy is not related to him. second he knwos wolverien and has foughten by his side befor it not odd that he ask him why he atatcked them.

Not related to him, but STILL AN ATLANTEAN. It doesn't matter if he isn't related to him. Do you just think that he lets his murder to slide away? Hell, he once nearly killed few hunters who almost killed a whale. Namor cares for ALL his subjects. When Thor attacked Namor under the control of Morgan LeFay, did Namor ask questions? No, he didn't. When Daredevil did? Nope. Spider-Man? Really, no. Iron Man? Nope. Hulk? No...

I could continue forever. Namor is EXTREMELY angry person. If someone kills an Atlantean in front of his eyes, he doesn't let it be. Maybe if Wolverine would be Captain America, his number #1 friend, then he'd believe that he would be mindcontrolled. But Wolverine? Guy he has met only once prior that? No way.

The truth is, that the fight was complete PIS. Namor has never acted like that, and he shouldn't.

Namor is EXTREMELY angry person

Right kind of an attitude. Who has ever achieved anything by asking questions? And no-one mentions Hercule Poirot...

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Not related to him, but STILL AN ATLANTEAN. It doesn't matter if he isn't related to him. Do you just think that he lets his murder to slide away? Hell, he once nearly killed few hunters who almost killed a whale. Namor cares for ALL his subjects. When Thor attacked Namor under the control of Morgan LeFay, did Namor ask questions? No, he didn't. When Daredevil did? Nope. Spider-Man? Really, no. Iron Man? Nope. Hulk? No...

I could continue forever. Namor is EXTREMELY angry person. If someone kills an Atlantean in front of his eyes, he doesn't let it be. Maybe if Wolverine would be Captain America, his number #1 friend, then he'd believe that he would be mindcontrolled. But Wolverine? Guy he has met only once prior that? No way.

The truth is, that the fight was complete PIS. Namor has never acted like that, and he shouldn't.


yes but namor also bvery inteligent person and he aske da question why he did it maby he wa slooking for the reaosn either wya that would not make it pis. wolverine ask people why they do stuff some tiems and he as angry as namor

So asking questions from Wolverine makes him a wise guy? Isn't it rather odd that he has been that wise only once?

Edit: Or maybe Namor was afraid? He should have been, he has lost to the Hulk and Wolverine is way better than the Hulk. Yeah, get real, it was bad writing.

Originally posted by capt it up
yes but namor also bvery inteligent person and he aske da question why he did it maby he wa slooking for the reaosn either wya that would not make it pis. wolverine ask people why they do stuff some tiems and he as angry as namor

If Wolverine had attacked them on normal way, then yes, he might have asked one.

If he has KILLED HIS ADVISOR in cold blood, then no, he won't. He would beat him to a bloody mass of quivering flesh, and then see if there was anything capable of forming speech anymore.

Namor has a temper unrivaled by anything on Earth. A simple insult, and he might punch you hundreds of meters away.
http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/3332/ill15167si.gif

Namor has lost his temper in MUUUUUCCCCHHH lesser situations. Why didn't he lost it here?

Extremely bad writing, that's why.

He would beat him to a bloody mass of quivering flesh, and then see if there was anything capable of forming speech anymore.

Perhaps ask questions while fighting? Answering them would be another issue then...

If he has KILLED HIS ADVISOR in cold blood, then no, he won't

There are not too many heroes in Marvel who would watch and wait when his/her acquaintance is being killed. Namor is no exception.

Namor has a temper unrivaled by anything on Earth. A simple insult, and he might punch you hundreds of meters away.
http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/3332/ill15167si.gif

Hulk has a temper quite like that, don't you think? I didn't like that Namor vs Ironman fight. It's unlikely that Ironman would stay in water while fighting Namor, he isn't an idiot...

Well, yeah, Hulk beats everything on temper department.

And maybe Iron Man didn't have time to get off water?

Originally posted by Tshern
Hulk has a temper quite like that, don't you think? I didn't like that Namor vs Ironman fight. It's unlikely that Ironman would stay in water while fighting Namor, he isn't an idiot...

I think the temper thing would be quite a tossup between Hulk and Namor, actually. The real bond their is in their shared penchant for smashing.

And I thought Tony didn't have enough time to get out of the water... Namor punches him into the ocean and immediately follows. Iron Man, after a second taken to collect himself, tried to stop Namor with repulsors, but Namor caught him and ripped his f***ing helmet off. Or at least that's how it played out in my mind, Stark could also just be a dumbass.

And maybe Iron Man didn't have time to get off water?

Well, I've seen him changing his direction in air after being hit and sent flying. And when Namor hits water Stark tries to use repulsors instead of just activating somekind of a shield and getting out of water. I haven't read the whole story, but probably that was completely understandable for the story. Still underestimating Ironman's true skills.

Namor definately caught him off gaurd. In a battlefield where the two were ready for it, or rather, Iron Man was ready as Namor ALWAYS is for battle, then it wouldn't have been like that. It would be much closer. Also, the two beat each other up all the time. They've each got some stellar wins against each other. btw Tshern, Marcus says thank you for that song.

Yeah, I got his regards with PM some time ago. Where's he now?

But still, if Ironman was ready to shoot with repulsors he should have been able to use a forcefield since he can create one with his repulsors. He did that against Living Laser...

Originally posted by Tony Stark
Namor has never been any stronger than 85 ton in water 40 ton out of water.

He still crushes Wolverine. 😎

look up his feats. 🙂 you will see that he is way stronger. its like that in comics they say hulk only 100 tons lol but but he punch throw something biiger then or earth. plus they say superman only 100,000 ton but we all know he is far much stronger.

Originally posted by capt it up
yes but namor also bvery inteligent person and he aske da question why he did it maby he wa slooking for the reaosn either wya that would not make it pis. wolverine ask people why they do stuff some tiems and he as angry as namor

You're under arrest for the murder of the English language.

Namor all the way. Imagine Wolvie's fights with the Hulk. Now imagine if the Hulk was faster than Logan, and could fly and shoot lightning. Sure Namor doesn't heal as fast, but the fight wouldn't last long enough for that to matter. That fight in N.I. was bull. I honestly think Marvel forgets that their not writing about Fanboy Wolverine sometimes.

Looking over this thread i can see Namor has some severe anger management issues.

Originally posted by grey fox
Looking over this thread i can see Namor has some [b]severe anger management issues. [/B]

It's not always his fault, though:
http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/5333/namorbloodimbalance8fl.gif

But in most cases...it's his own temper.

Hes usually prevoked though.

Double post.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Hes usually prevoked though.

Yeah. It's actually funny how in most of his fights, Namor never starts it...