Originally posted by celestialdemonwhy bring scathan if u didnt need him. the power he displayed there was outstanding.
Thanos wins this. I need to see Scathan actually defeat someone the LT couldn't before I rank him that high. And don't tell me "he beat Protege". The LT, Eternity, or anyone else didn't lay a hand on him before Scathan hooded him like a falcon.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
Thanos wins this. I need to see Scathan actually defeat someone the LT couldn't before I rank him that high. And don't tell me "he beat Protege". The LT, Eternity, or anyone else didn't lay a hand on him before Scathan hooded him like a falcon.
Scathan beat Protege where LT could not. Scathan was called the greatest of the Celestials. This is why people hold Scathan in such high regard, is that he did something LT himself was unable to do.
Originally posted by quanchi112
scathans actions prove he was needed. no one else did a thing to stop the protege except scathan.scathan was needed.
No one else tried to do anything, including the LT. Saying that Scathan easily defeated a being that the LT couldn't is saying that he is far above the being who is second only to TOAA. How does that make any sense?
Originally posted by Kutulu
Scathan beat Protege where LT could not. Scathan was called the greatest of the Celestials. This is why people hold Scathan in such high regard, is that he did something LT himself was unable to do.
So Scathan is greater than the being who is second to TOAA. Got it.
Where was the mighty Scathan during the HOTI saga? Why did Thanos call him the top of the food chain if there was someone more powerful out there? What's the purpose of TOAA creating the LT to guard the multiverse when he created a being on the side who is more powerful than him?
Originally posted by celestialdemon
So Scathan is greater than the being who is second to TOAA. Got it.Where was the mighty Scathan during the HOTI saga? Why did Thanos call him the top of the food chain if there was someone more powerful out there? What's the purpose of TOAA creating the LT to guard the multiverse when he created a being on the side who is more powerful than him?
Here are the scans in question. Note who's powers got copied by Protege after he already had duplicated the powers of the Living Tribunal:
Originally posted by Kutulu
Here are the scans in question. Note who's powers got copied by Protege [b]after he already had duplicated the powers of the Living Tribunal:[/B]
I'm aware of the scans. He claims to have copied the powers of TOAA. If that was true, then Scathan is above TOAA. How does that make sense?
Originally posted by celestialdemon
I'm aware of the scans. He claims to have copied the powers of TOAA. If that was true, then Scathan is above TOAA. How does that make sense?
The only way it could make sense would be if Scathan's home was somehow outside of the Megaverse (which contains the multivereses, which contain Universe 616).
Celestials are said to to tap into an energy which exist outside of the universe, so who knows. Other than that, it's generally considered PIS.
Originally posted by celestialdemonits comics it doesnt have to make sense. just know scathan is the baddest of all the celestials. they are such a mysterious bunch.
I'm aware of the scans. He claims to have copied the powers of TOAA. If that was true, then Scathan is above TOAA. How does that make sense?
Originally posted by celestialdemonhes in one story. why would thanos bring him up. he heasnt been seen outside the gotg.
So Scathan is greater than the being who is second to TOAA. Got it.Where was the mighty Scathan during the HOTI saga? Why did Thanos call him the top of the food chain if there was someone more powerful out there? What's the purpose of TOAA creating the LT to guard the multiverse when he created a being on the side who is more powerful than him?
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Your claims are without proof Quanchi, you can not think in that head of yours that LT was greater because it was not on panel, therefore it can not be counted as a win. I seriously hope not because this would mean that you were deluded. Just remember one thing Quanchi, never let your senses see anything that they did not. The IG vs LT is not what this thread is about. It about how Scathan would be destroyed by a power above his. Tell you what, why don't you make a thread called; Scathan vs all of these guys:1) Galactus
2) Eternity
3) Epoch
4) Love
5) Hate
6) Kronos
7) Death
8) Mephisto
9) Order
10) Chaos
11) Three celestials of your Choice Excluding Scathan
And see how far you get. Oh! and throw in all of the earth based heroes and the Ultimate nullifier. You know just for kicks.
Protege, Protege, Protege.... this is all I keep hearing about. This one showing means Scathan can pwn LT? Please there was a time that Beyonder looked as if he could defeat LT, but that was before he was retconned wasn't it? You guys go on one showing, and state that Scathan could defeat beings greater in power than itself. Llagrok, my list was not made up Thanos did defeat these beings, all of them would you like me to bring the list up again? I have doubts that Scathan would or could beat the entire list of characters that I saw Thanos defeat easilly. As a matter of fact Thanos depowered himself to make sport of the entire event. Until I see LT beating Warlock all claims of his victory are null and void. As many here are so famous to state, hand books and such wiki crap are unreliable sources as they change to suit the writers. I mean take a character as simple as the Thing for instance, he was always class 85 now I hear that he has become class 100??? What a crock of BS... you mean to tell me that Grimm who is obviously past his prime is actually getting stronger? Whatever. Reliable only when it suits a particular arguement. Scathan may be tough and all of that, but he pales when compared to The Infinity Gauntlet's diverse power sets. Now somehow Scathan is LT's superior? Listen when I see Scathan with more than one notch in his belt, then come and tell me all of this stuff.
Scathan is more than LT, but the Endless could defeat him? Yep makes sense to me.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
I'm aware of the scans. He claims to have copied the powers of TOAA. If that was true, then Scathan is above TOAA. How does that make sense?
It doesn't, so it's reasonable to believe that Protege wasn't capable of copying ALL of TOAA's powers. If he did, then Scathan shouldn't have been capable of beating him.
Originally posted by Kutulu
Scathan beat Protege where LT could not. Scathan was called the greatest of the Celestials. This is why people hold Scathan in such high regard, is that he did something LT himself was unable to do.
Earth-691 Scathan the Approver is
Earth-616 Tiamut, the Dreaming Celestial is the greatest
Originally posted by quanchi112
its comics it doesnt have to make sense. just know scathan is the baddest of all the celestials. they are such a mysterious bunch.
They are mysterious. Created by Kirby to replace Galactus and the Watchers in power
The issues with Scathan were written to showcase his awesome power. Its no different than Starlin showcasing Thanos in Marvel: The End
Again, Earth-691 Scathan is the baddest Celestial
According to the original Eternals comics, Tiamut, the Dreaming Celestial is the greatest Celestial to walk the Earth
Flip flopping maybe? just does not work for me
Lt is the only one under TOAA, as shown and told by some posters, supposedly not debatable, then the same posters say scathan is more powerfull or greater than LT and that can also be proven......cmon now what is the verdict? when it suits certain posters needs LT is only under TOAA,and now Scathan
So we take proteges word he is TOAA
LT's position is up for grabs now?....those comics came out long ago why now is scathan above or greater than LT
I guess thanos IG was God and Supreme..since he said so himself
And we just assume that duplicating ones power gives them the same level of that power?
lets say LT has supernova at 30
lets say proteges duplication power is 25
all protege gets is supernova at 25
Usually those with the LT at his judgements are their because they could have called the meeting, or are given a say in the matter, now they are their for the LT's protection? wow that means alot of thinking will have to be done about past meetings with the LT and future ones to
Originally posted by starlock
Flip flopping maybe? just does not work for meLt is the only one under TOAA, as shown and told by some posters, supposedly not debatable, then the same posters say scathan is more powerfull or greater than LT and that can also be proven......cmon now what is the verdict? when it suits certain posters needs LT is only under TOAA,and now Scathan
So we take proteges word he is TOAA
LT's position is up for grabs now?....those comics came out long ago why now is scathan above or greater than LT
I guess thanos IG was God and Supreme..since he said so himselfAnd we just assume that duplicating ones power gives them the same level of that power?
lets say LT has supernova at 30
lets say proteges duplication power is 25
all protege gets is supernova at 25Usually those with the LT at his judgements are their because they could have called the meeting, or are given a say in the matter, now they are their for the LT's protection? wow that means alot of thinking will have to be done about past meetings with the LT and future ones to
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I loved the issues with Scathan(Big LT and Celestials fan). Saying that, none of us can disprove Scathan helping LT defeat Protege. Celestial muzzle and then, Living Tribunal absorbing the godlike being.