Ok yall,
I think I figured out the madness behind Scathan.
As yall know, I am probably the greatest supporter of the LT, (well atleast second to guy)
But it's a canon fact, the LT could not handle Protege while Scathan could.
Marvel itself confirmed what took place On Panel. (no arguing this)
Now,
I believe Scathan had TOAA's authority in this case, (a special agent perhaps)
due to these panels:
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Hawkgod asked Eternity,
"Can we expect assistance from Scathan?"
Eternity replies,
"Negative, the Celestial's purpose is only to record
and Approve of what transpires here"
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Then at the end, after Scathan pwnd Protege,
The LT tells Protege,
"your actions are inexcusable ... make your peace, may TOAA forgive you"
Protege begins to cry out,
"No, I want to be TOAA"
The LT responds with,
"Power is meaningless beyond this existence"
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This tells me first,
Protege never had TOAA'God's true power,
because beyond the Omniverse "power is meaningless"
This makes sense,
since beyond the Omniverse there's only God in Marvel Heaven,
drawing Protege, THIS Story
and everything else taking place in the Omniverse on pieces of paper.
Originally posted by starlock
where does LT try to do somthing to protege?what did he try on protege, before scathan muzzled him?
when did LT try and fail to use powers against protege?
now that might help me understand where people are coming from
Help is on the way. 🙂
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Protege owing the LT, Eternity & Hawkgod and the Guardians simultaneously:
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The LT had to draw on the Ancient One's Amulet,
in order to increase his own power,
in order to absorb Protege:
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Imo, this is all PIS, but canon nontheless, so I must accept it.
(excerpt from the official Handbook 2006 - LT bio)
Canon!
I'm sorry, but from an objective point of view this "Scathan" character just seems like a victim of poor writing. My PIS-dar is going off like crazy right now.
I'll give it to Thanos just because some idiot writer thought it would be sensible to make the LT need a Celestials help with anything. Retarded
Well... in my mind, there exists another possibility.
Celestials in 616 were created by Eternity - canon.
Celestials exist throughout the multiverese - canon.
One universe is entirely populated by Celestials (universe-2 I think, I forgot the number offhand). - canon.
So it doesn't make sense that all Celestials were created by 616 Eternity, only the ones that were created that exist currently in universe 616. So it would seem therefore that Celestials given that they have been proven to exist in universes throughout the multiverse, that there is some other force at play. There have also been beings similar to Celestials that have been spotted in both 616 and other universes as well, notably the Makers:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/makersmicroverse.htm
So in my mind the possibility exists that Scathan either came from another multiverse, or somehow ascended from the current multiverse.
Originally posted by Kutulu
Well... in my mind, there exists another possibility.Celestials in 616 were created by Eternity - canon.
All Celestials were created by Eternity. (that is, the Totality of Eternity as in the Multiverse)
Just as every Galactus in every Universe was created by the Totality of Eternity.
616 Eternity has the power of the Multiverse, this is confirmed in Defenders v3,
when Dormammu/Umar usurped the power of the Multiverse from within 616,
where the core of Eternity was (or the essence of his Totality)
Originally posted by Kutulu
Celestials exist throughout the multiverese - canon.
True that.
Originally posted by Kutulu
One universe is entirely populated by Celestials - canon.
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Originally posted by Kutulu
So it doesn't make sense that all Celestials were created by 616 Eternity, only the ones that were created that exist currently in universe 616.
Above.
Originally posted by Kutulu
So it would seem therefore that Celestials given that they have been proven to exist in universes throughout the multiverse, that there is some other force at play.
Scathan seemed to operating on behalf of TOAA imo according to the on panel evidence.
Originally posted by Kutulu
There have also been beings similar to Celestials that have been spotted in both 616 and other universes as well, notably the Makers:
Actually the Makers are completely disconnected from 616.
They took an entire Universe and re-created it in their image,
the Microverse is located in this Universe.
Originally posted by Kutulu
So in my mind the possibility exists that Scathan either came from another multiverse, or somehow ascended from the current multiverse.
There are no Celestials outside the prime Multiverse,
there are no sentient Abstracts outside the prime Multiverse either,
with the exception of the Brothers (who are Two MegaverseS now)
Originally posted by Kutulu
Well... in my mind, there exists another possibility.Celestials in 616 were created by Eternity - canon.
Celestials exist throughout the multiverese - canon.
One universe is entirely populated by Celestials (universe-2 I think, I forgot the number offhand). - canon.So it doesn't make sense that all Celestials were created by 616 Eternity, only the ones that were created that exist currently in universe 616. So it would seem therefore that Celestials given that they have been proven to exist in universes throughout the multiverse, that there is some other force at play. There have also been beings similar to Celestials that have been spotted in both 616 and other universes as well, notably the Makers:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/makersmicroverse.htmSo in my mind the possibility exists that Scathan either came from another multiverse, or somehow ascended from the current multiverse.
Do u know about the Absolutes