Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Mr. M, what about Scathan using what seemed like a basic Celestial muzzle to trap Protege?
What can I say,
Scathan being a Celestial shouldn't have been able to do what he did to begin with,
they desensitized me to surprises right after the initial shock.
The way I see it, since imo TOAA was behind all this,
nothing Scathan did should be unbelievable.
You know I how I feel inside about all this (PIS)
but it's canon so ... until further info is illustrated or updated in a bio, it is what it was.
Originally posted by Mr MasterYa, but it seemed like he used a weapon that you could get at the Celestial market for 10 Celestial dollars, down on Maine.
What can I say,
Scathan being a Celestial shouldn't have been able to do what he did to begin with,
they desensitized me to surprises right after the initial shock.The way I see it, since imo TOAA was behind all this,
nothing Scathan did should be unbelievable.You know I how I feel inside about all this (PIS)
but it's canon so ... until further info is illustrated or updated in a bio, it is what it was.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I agree with this.Only now that builds a new paradox, which is,
is Scathan always backed by TOAA, or was this a special case?
Until further notice from Marvel, I, we, can't say for sure.
Guess we'll have to wait.
If Scathan was always backed up by TOAA, then he would be second only to TOAA and the LT would be third to TOAA. So because the bios state that the LT's only superior is TOAA, until further notice the LT is greater than Scathan by default because if Scathan was ALWAYS backed up by TOAA then Scathan would be second only to TOAA and thus he would be recorded that way in the bios.
Scathan was shown to be superior in one instance. Using that logic, you could make a case for:
1) TOAA
2) TOAA-powered Scathan
3) LT
Unfortunately, the caveat is that TOAA-powered Scathan means that the Scathan bit is superfluous. Anything empowered by TOAA to a greater extent than LT is going to be > LT, like G and his heralds. The herald that G gives the most PC to is the most powerful, regardless of pre-herald power level.
Due to the fact that we have only seen Scathan once, using that as a case for Scathan > LT is nonsensical, because Scathan is only > LT with TOAA's backing, and anything with TOAA's backing is simply a feat for TOAA itself.
Basically, if I only ever ran a single 100m race at the Olympics, and I pumped myself full of drugs before the race, and broke the WR as a result, it would still be void, as 1) my normal levels were not established and 2) the victory was down to an external boost, which means other runners could replicate that with the same boost. Scathan has no other appearances, so unless a case can be made that Scathan > LT by himself, all we have is TOAA-powered Scathan > LT, which doesn't mean anything at all with respect to Scathan's power.
Its whoever TOAA designates to in this case. Normally that is LT. But in that particular arc it was Scathan. So, if TOAA gives LT authority to destroy Scathan.. it is LT, if he gives Scathan orders it is vice versa. If TOAA wanted them to destroy eachother, he could, lol. Obviously, I see no reason why Scathan would be acting under TOAA in this case, so I'm going with LT. For the win.
Originally posted by Ouallada
Scathan was shown to be superior in one instance. Using that logic, you could make a case for:1) TOAA
2) TOAA-powered Scathan
3) LTUnfortunately, the caveat is that TOAA-powered Scathan means that the Scathan bit is superfluous. Anything empowered by TOAA to a greater extent than LT is going to be > LT, like G and his heralds. The herald that G gives the most PC to is the most powerful, regardless of pre-herald power level.
Due to the fact that we have only seen Scathan once, using that as a case for Scathan > LT is nonsensical, because Scathan is only > LT with TOAA's backing, and anything with TOAA's backing is simply a feat for TOAA itself.
Basically, if I only ever ran a single 100m race at the Olympics, and I pumped myself full of drugs before the race, and broke the WR as a result, it would still be void, as 1) my normal levels were not established and 2) the victory was down to an external boost, which means other runners could replicate that with the same boost. Scathan has no other appearances, so unless a case can be made that Scathan > LT by himself, all we have is TOAA-powered Scathan > LT, which doesn't mean anything at all with respect to Scathan's power.