most overrated character

Originally posted by Darth Scythe
Notice I said defeated, not killed.

But 3 wins being chalked up to luck? I guess he got lucky he had his lightsaber to cut off Hett's arm too huh.

Notice i said the others, not Hett.

And yes, luck. Hence the irony of, "In my experience there's no such thing as luck." That was part of Lucas' intent...same with the other "running joke" of everyone losing their sabers.

EDIT:
And in someone like Durge's case who can't just be killed like normal, he's not defeated unless killed.

Originally posted by ThoraxeRMG
Bullshit, of what I seen, Revan is underrated.

Wishful thinking.

Revan's status as the world's most popular Gary-Stu notwithstanding, I'd say the majority here (with the exceptions of those such as LeGenD and apparently yourself) have a fair perception of Revan's powers.

Was he an upper tier Sith Lord? Most certainly. One of the most powerful ever.

Was he a great Sith Lord? Personally, I'd give him top three in that category. Bane and Sidious are his only competition, though -- to be fair -- Sidious outstrips every Sith Lord by a great deal in accomplishments.

Was he a brilliant tactition? Yes. But LeGenD's BS like "he's second only to Thrawn!1!" is unfounded.

All in all, Revan's a major powerhouse. Sadly, there are people who are smarter than him (Sidious, Thrawn, Zaarin, ect.), people who are more powerful than him (Luke, Sidious, Yoda, probably Ragnos, ect), people who are greater than him (Luke, Sidious, Leia, Thrawn, ect), and so forth.

He's hardly the best.

Hmm... I don't know, I think Nihilus is kinda overrated..

I don't see why people say Bane is very overrated.

Btw, I agree with you completely, Gideon.

Originally posted by Gideon
Wishful thinking.

Revan's status as the world's most popular Gary-Stu notwithstanding, I'd say the majority here (with the exceptions of those such as LeGenD and apparently yourself) have a fair perception of Revan's powers.

Was he an upper tier Sith Lord? Most certainly. One of the most powerful ever.

Was he a great Sith Lord? Personally, I'd give him top three in that category. Bane and Sidious are his only competition, though -- to be fair -- Sidious outstrips every Sith Lord by a great deal in accomplishments.

Was he a brilliant tactition? Yes. But LeGenD's BS like "he's second only to Thrawn!1!" is unfounded.

All in all, Revan's a major powerhouse. Sadly, there are people who are smarter than him (Sidious, Thrawn, Zaarin, ect.), people who are more powerful than him (Luke, Sidious, Yoda, probably Ragnos, ect), people who are greater than him (Luke, Sidious, Leia, Thrawn, ect), and so forth.

He's hardly the best.

That's quite reasonable. I concur.

Originally posted by Gideon
people who are more powerful than him (Luke, Sidious, Yoda, probably Ragnos, ect)

Provide some good and convincing reasons please!

Originally posted by Gideon
people who are greater than him (Luke, Sidious, Leia, Thrawn, ect), and so forth.

He's hardly the best.

Again provide some convincing reasons.

That is irrelevant, Legend. The point Gideon is explaining you that there ARE people who are undoubtedly better than Revan, on every case.

Originally posted by 0°Mandalore°0
That is irrelevant, Legend. The point Gideon is explaining you that there ARE people who are undoubtedly better than Revan, on every case.

He said "probably" Ragnos, meaning its uncertain.

Didnt KJA say somewhere that kun is stronger than ragnos?
(Not saying its true at all, i cant remember where i heard this but i cant confirm it)

But personally i think revan and exar kun are pretty much equals in terms of power, BOD certainly seems to make it so

But in terms of overration, other websites and youtube etc severely overrate revan claiming he is more uber and powerful than luke,
Legend here doesnt super overrate him if you compare it to other sites.

Lucasforums used to be one place but now i made sure they didnt happen, so they know its sidious and luke > revan

Obi Wan messed up Durge so bad on Muunlist that he had to make a hasty retreat. So he's definitely defeated him.

See this is where I think Revan is overrated. I also think Bane is too. Why should Revan be ranked right below Bane and Sidious when he never did anything as a Sith? Overall Revan was at his best as a Jedi, but as a Sith he's below the likes of Vader, Dooku etc

Well i just finished that young adult novel "rise and fall of darth vader".

It was stated that vader studied ancient sith holocrons in his castle in vjun and doesnt studying that make you more powerful as it did to palpatine according to the visual guide?

I think people should stop disrespecting and underrating vader and dooku

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Yea...he got lucky with Maul and Anakin, and he's lucky there just happened to be a blaster there with GG and he's lucky that GG didn't just pull him apart instead of throwing him.

Put your sources in context.

How is Ragnos more powerful then Revan?

Provide some good and convincing reasons please!

Like clockwork. This is becoming so predictable that it's kind've sad. Regardless, this isn't the place to debate why Ragnos is better than Revan. If you want, make a thread. I'll be sure to PM Nai Fohl, who will probably be itching for such an argument.

How is Leia greater then Revan?

If you insist: she (along with Mon Mothma) managed to form the galaxy-spanning government that eventually overthrew the most powerful military regime in galactic history, and saw the defeats of the Emperor Reborn, Grand Admiral Thrawn, the Yuuzhan Vong, and the Killiks.

Again provide some convincing reasons.

I just did.

Originally posted by Allankles
Obi Wan messed up Durge so bad on Muunlist that he had to make a hasty retreat. So he's definitely defeated him.

See this is where I think Revan is overrated. I also think Bane is too. Why should Revan be ranked right below Bane and Sidious when he never did anything as a Sith? Overall Revan was at his best as a Jedi, but as a Sith he's below the likes of Vader, Dooku etc

If not for Revan, Bane wouldn't have gained the knowledge he needed in order to strengthen/reorganize the Sith Order.

Originally posted by Melcórë
If not for Revan, Bane wouldn't have gained the knowledge he needed in order to strengthen/reorganize the Sith Order.

I know that, but it was a weak plot device in the context of the POD plot and more importantly, in context to Bane as a character.

Anyway, ignoring all that it still doesn't put him over the likes of Vader and Dooku, especially as a Sith.

I agree with that, Allankles, but I don't think Bane is one of the most overrated characters.