Thanos versus Darkseid in Pure Slugfest Battle

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darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
I just proved it

Ds's power isnt more concentrated in his smaller form it is lowered

why do you think he loses to superman but stalemates/beats highfather?


Where has the decrease in power been established again?

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
And i reread the first post..... we arent debating the big one 😮

But the small one is still stronger so it doesnt matter


Ok now back your claim up. What indication do you have that DS's reduced form is stronger than Thanos?

Gecko4lif Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
Where has the decrease in power been established again?

In powerscaling (try to keep up)


Ok now back your claim up. What indication do you have that DS's reduced form is stronger than Thanos?

The fact that he is pretty consistently stronger then supes (but still loses somehow...hmm..)

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
In powerscaling (try to keep up)

Ah...you mean speculation 😉 .

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
The fact that he is pretty consistently stronger then supes (but still loses somehow...hmm..)

Where are these consistent showings of strength, because for the past 20 years or so they've been portrayed as being right on par strength wise.

Gecko4lif Senior Member
Originally posted by darthgoober
Ah...you mean speculation 😉 .

No i mean powerscaling


Where are these consistent showings of strength, because for the past 20 years or so they've been portrayed as being right on par strength wise.

In every comic

ds is superior but supes wins in the end cuz he is good.

It is the same plot everytime

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
No i mean powerscaling

And in what issue did they say that DS's overall power is scaled down along with his size?

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
In every comic

ds is superior but supes wins in the end cuz he is good.

It is the same plot everytime


I've seen most of DS's confrontations with Supes, and in none of them have I seen a clear indication of DS being out of Supes league in the strength department. You have a scan or issue number to back that up with?

Gecko4lif Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
And in what issue did they say that DS's overall power is scaled down along with his size?

If superman started flying would they have to tell you he is flying? No because you can see it for yourself. Same here


I've seen most of DS's confrontations with Supes, and in none of them have I seen a clear indication of DS being out of Supes league in the strength department. You have a scan or issue number to back that up with?

SO pimp slapping supes almost unconscience and beating him into amnesia dont count all of a sudden?

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
If superman started flying would they have to tell you he is flying? No because you can see it for yourself. Same here

Well then SHOW the demonstration. At this point you're just ASSUMING that DS's power drops, but I've never seen that actually indicated. And a better comparison would be you saying that a character is capable of lightspeed flight even though he's never actually shown the ability to hit that speed.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
SO pimp slapping supes almost unconscience and beating him into amnesia dont count all of a sudden?

Again, a scan or issue number please. I'm not saying that it didn't happen, I'd just like to see the instance for myself rather than take possible "forum talk" at face value.

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Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm not saying that it didn't happen, I'd just like to see the instance for myself rather than take possible "forum talk" at face value.
Forum talk sucks anus... really, it sucks ass. 😎

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by darthgoober
Well then SHOW the demonstration. At this point you're just ASSUMING that DS's power drops, but I've never seen that actually indicated. And a better comparison would be you saying that a character is capable of lightspeed flight even though he's never actually shown the ability to hit that speed.

Again, a scan or issue number please. I'm not saying that it didn't happen, I'd just like to see the instance for myself rather than take possible "forum talk" at face value.

There is a reference to thier power dropping when boom tubing. There is an old scan with DS in Giant form and his very presence destroys the cosmos around him. I do not have the scan anymore as the link that I had is broken. But I will search for it.

vlaaad12345 Senior Member

Ds temporarily downed supes in only 3 hits back in OWAW.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
There is a reference to thier power dropping when boom tubing. There is an old scan with DS in Giant form and his very presence destroys the cosmos around him. I do not have the scan anymore as the link that I had is broken. But I will search for it.

Ok. And like I said, I'll settle for an issue number if you can't find the scan(I understand that not everyone has a scanner so I'm willing to do my own legwork).

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Ds temporarily downed supes in only 3 hits back in OWAW.

After Supes had already been fighting a shitload of New Gods and Imperiex Probes I believe. That's hardly a clear indication...

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by darthgoober
After Supes had already been fighting a shitload of New Gods and Imperiex Probes I believe. That's hardly a clear indication...

Is this before DS had spent alot of his own power fighting as well?

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Is this before DS had spent alot of his own power fighting as well?

Don't know, just going off of what batdude and Avy said. Even if that's the case though, the circumstances within the situation mean that it's hardly a showing of the two of them at their best.

vlaaad12345 Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
After Supes had already been fighting a shitload of New Gods and Imperiex Probes I believe. That's hardly a clear indication...

Supes had been resting for awhile,and he only fought some parademons before ds he seemed fine,and in supes/bat when they fought darkseid was overpowering a pissed off supes and still fought even with him for awhile after supes is dipping near the sun.

batdude123 Fellow Tu Quoqumber
Originally posted by darthgoober
After Supes had already been fighting a shitload of New Gods and Imperiex Probes I believe. That's hardly a clear indication...

I'd have to reread what lead up to that, but I'll let you know tomorrow.

vlaaad12345 Senior Member

Originally posted by batdude123
I'd have to reread what lead up to that, but I'll let you know tomorrow.

It was after darkseid saved him from imperiex,teleported him to apokolips so he can give him the aegis,supes had been unconcious resting woke up started a fight some parademons(beat their asses)and like 3 or so shoted kalibak I believe,then he fought ds and ds took him out in 3 hits.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Supes had been resting for awhile,and he only fought some parademons before ds he seemed fine

So he fought New Gods, Imperiex Probes, AND Parademons before DS then?

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
,and in supes/bat when they fought darkseid was overpowering a pissed off supes and still fought even with him for awhile after supes is dipping near the sun.

So that's one instance of DS's strength being superior and one instance of Supes's strength being superior(Apocalypse Now) which means that they're tied and the two of them are in the same strength range. That's not to say that DS isn't stronger, but he's definitely not heads and tails over Supes.

vlaaad12345 Senior Member

He didnt fight them back to back,he had been resting for sometime woke up beat the parademons and kalibak down easily then challenged darkseid,ds proceeded to 3 shot him.

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by darthgoober
So he fought New Gods, Imperiex Probes, AND Parademons before DS then?

So that's one instance of DS's strength being superior and one instance of Supes's strength being superior(Apocalypse Now) which means that they're tied and the two of them are in the same strength range. That's not to say that DS isn't stronger, but he's definitely not heads and tails over Supes.

The thing is, DS has bitched superman a few times with a back hand. I've never seen superman just stand still and be able to rock DS. He has to give it his all just to move him. Speed blitzing, ect.