Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Dan Jurgens, the writer of Hunter prey, says that Superman is Millions of times more powerful than thor. So you know what he thinks about Doomsday's strength lvl, and Also DS. Puts things in perspective doesn't it.
Originally posted by AccelIn the same interview he says that no one could beat Doomsday becuz of his constantly evolving power.
Jurgens later admitted that he was kidding about that. He even said that the original interviewer neglected to include the chuckle he gave after he made that comment, so every one took him seriously.
Originally posted by Galan007
Can you think of any other instances where he has used a pure Omega Force blast?
To my knowlege there were three times. The once where firestorm deflected it, the one that bran posted, and the one where he used it to amp himself to beat the living shit outof highfather.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlI don't count the Highfather instance as a 'blast of pure OF'...
To my knowlege there were three times. The once where firestorm deflected it, the one that bran posted, and the one where he used it to amp himself to beat the living shit outof highfather.
Repost the scan bran posted.... I must have missed it. 😮
To be clear, the Omega Force is just the general name he gives to his beams. Its not the wipe out power, necessarily. He's called it the Omega Force numerous times when all it does is send people through time, or take away their powers, or whatever.
The Omega Force might just be concussive power, might be heat, might be teleportational in nature, might be whatever.
In this instance, it is clear that it wasn't the wipe outs since...well, those wipe you out. IT was most likely force, which he then follows up with the heat component of the beams.
Whatever it was, it wasn't his wipe outs.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Actually he is. Consider this. If you were 6 inches tall instead of 60 feet could you lift even 1/100th of the things you normally could? I rest my case.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
The problem with that is that A writer ho has written BOTH characters stated that superman was millions of time stronger then thor. All of this while thanos is consistently only about 3-7 times stronger.
Originally posted by DesaadSo a general 'heat component' = the "prime power" of Darkseid = The OF = The blast FS redirected?
To be clear, the Omega Force is just the general name he gives to his beams. Its not the wipe out power, necessarily. He's called it the Omega Force numerous times when all it does is send people through time, or take away their powers, or whatever.The Omega Force might just be concussive power, might be heat, might be teleportational in nature, might be whatever.
In this instance, it is clear that it wasn't the wipe outs since...well, those wipe you out. IT was most likely force, which he then follows up with the heat component of the beams.
Whatever it was, it wasn't his wipe outs.
Please. srsly
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But it is the exact same manner in which the substance inertron is created by jan's people. A rose by any other name is still a rose. It takes high tier matter manip to make it. and then you have to know how to make it. So it is just funny that people say a good Gl or surfer could make it.
Originally posted by Galan007
So a general 'heat component' = the "prime power" of Darkseid = The OF = The blast FS redirected?Please. srsly
What? The Omega Force - the Force that Darkseid controls/wrested control of from his brother Drax - is a general term that refers to all the abilities he demonstrates that resulted from the Omega Force.
Now, the Omega beams allow him to control heat, concussive force, spatial teleportation, temporal teleportation, matter manipulation, power absorbion...and wipe outs.
The beams that he sent out against Doomsday clearly were not wipe outs. They didn't destroy his body, and Darkseid didn't show any surprise as to their inability to destroy Doomsdays body. He then goes on to use the heat component of the beams to great a molten grave for the creature.
This is all in keeping with the original scan - that the Omega Force is the prime power of Darkseid, from which all the other powers are manifested - which, by the way, is of dubious continuity (due to its relation to Return of the New Gods, which has definitely been wiped out).
Originally posted by DesaadI thought you were trying to downplay Firestorm's redirecting of the OF, into a lesser feat...
What? The Omega Force - the Force that Darkseid controls/wrested control of from his brother Drax - is a general term that refers to all the abilities he demonstrates that resulted from the Omega Force.Now, the Omega beams allow him to control heat, concussive force, spatial teleportation, temporal teleportation, matter manipulation, power absorbion...and wipe outs.
The beams that he sent out against Doomsday clearly were not wipe outs. They didn't destroy his body, and Darkseid didn't show any surprise as to their inability to destroy Doomsdays body. He then goes on to use the heat component of the beams to great a molten grave for the creature.
This is all in keeping with the original scan - that the Omega Force is the prime power of Darkseid, from which all the other powers are manifested - which, by the way, is of dubious continuity (due to its relation to Return of the New Gods, which has definitely been wiped out).
It seems you weren't -- Cool beans. 😄
Originally posted by darthgoober
That same writer also said that both Supes and Doomsday were BOTH superior to DS physically, and Supes current strength FAR exceeds his strength at the time.
Actually he is. Consider this. If you were 6 inches tall instead of 60 feet could you lift even 1/100th of the things you normally could? I rest my case.
Right... SO if you were pulling 100 tons (your max at 60 lets say) directly up you would beable to pull it at 6 inches....
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
You said it was leverageAnd i am saying if the leverage was exactly the same would you be able to pull it.
The answer is not because your smaller muscles produce proportionally less force
Originally posted by darthgoober
Pulling and lifting are two different things. But let's say that you have two people who's lifting capacity max out at 200 pounds and one of them is 6 foot tall while the other is 6 inches tall. If you give them both identical boxes that are large and weigh 200 pounds, then yes the larger person will have an easier time lifting the box because the size of the boxes will be far more unwieldy for the 6 inch person.
What i am saying is that they CANT
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
But that is assuming they can lift the same thingWhat i am saying is that they CANT
Originally posted by darthgoober
Ok now prove that statement. Where has it been said that DS is physically stronger when he's not in his smaller Boomtubed form. For that matter, point me to the part where the thread started said that we're debating a 400 foot DS...
I just proved it
Ds's power isnt more concentrated in his smaller form it is lowered
why do you think he loses to superman but stalemates/beats highfather?
And i reread the first post..... we arent debating the big one 😮
But the small one is still stronger so it doesnt matter