Thanos versus Darkseid in Pure Slugfest Battle

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
He didnt fight them back to back,he had been resting for sometime woke up beat the parademons and kalibak down easily then challenged darkseid,ds proceeded to 3 shot him.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Nevertheless, the circumstances mean that it's impossible to make a judgement off it because there were a LOT of factors going into the confrontation. Not to mention the fact that it contradicts most of Supes showings against DS...

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Contradicts most of supes showings against ds?supes has beat ds twice...ajobolypse now(cmon that was horrible writing and everyone knows it)and needed to be pissed off,deflected oe in ds's face and a sundip just to break even with ds in supes/batman,all other times ds has been considered the superior.

Originally posted by darthgoober
What other times are you talking about? When did some of these other instances happen? Also Supes has about five wins/stalemates against DS, not just two.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Five? When? I know you aren't counting Superman Batman with the OE to the dome and a sun amp? What other instances do you speak of?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=9574955#post9574955

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yes I actually am counting that as one of them, but more as an example of stalemating than beating though, due to the circumstances you already mentioned. As for the complete list, it's here in this post...

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=9574955#post9574955

In the first round of scans all superman does is run from the omegas and leads them back to DS. DS is hurt and gets back up. Fight invalid.

In the 2nd set of scans, It looks like superman hit DS with all of his might. DS gets back up and is ready to kill supers. Superman throws a bunch of parademons and is teleported away? or something like that. I fail to see where Superman did anything but get a sucker punch in that didn't do any harm.

The Third fight is after DS has expended most of his power on imperiex. Fight invalid.

Fight four basically tells us that DS had never lost on the physical plane before then. And Superman basically admits this by saying he's stronger on this one day. To which he has a valid win. Unless of course I can tie the timelines together and debunk this one too. 😛

Fight five is a gag. Superman in anger speed blitzes DS. And does absolutely no dmg. He gets ***** slapped back, and then DS owns himself with his own power via an aegis shield. I fail to see where Superman hung with DS. He put his all into a speed blitz and did NO DMG. And then Superman gets to fight DS damn near the top of the sun by taking advantage of a self inflicted wound. Where he knew he would have a sever power boost. And to top it off, DS was actually trading blows with Superman on top of the sun. Until the sun amp became too much to over come in addition to his own injuries.

I see one victory to superman's credit and that is Apok Now.

Also I noticed what so intersting about the first scans are the fact that superman knew the beams would kill him, and he didn't expect DS to survive. But DS not only survives, but then survives a beating at superman's hands. He also talks about his durability and the fact that he is able to house the Omega force.

There was two showdowns in action comics(the first by Bryne's) and Apokolips now. The first was probally retconned, so I don't count that one....as for Superman and Batman, there was a ton of bullshit going on there, and Supes didn't really beat him head on........

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
UM no goober.

In the first round of scans all superman does is run from the omegas and leads them back to DS. DS is hurt and gets back up. Fight invalid.

In the 2nd set of scans, It looks like superman hit DS with all of his might. DS gets back up and is ready to kill supers. Superman throws a bunch of parademons and is teleported away? or something like that. I fail to see where Superman did anything but get a sucker punch in that didn't do any harm.

The Third fight is after DS has expended most of his power on imperiex. Fight invalid.

Fight four basically tells us that DS had never lost on the physical plane before then. And Superman basically admits this by saying he's stronger on this one day. To which he has a valid win. Unless of course I can tie the timelines together and debunk this one too. 😛

Fight five is a gag. Superman in anger speed blitzes DS. And does absolutely no dmg. He gets ***** slapped back, and then DS owns himself with his own power via an aegis shield. I fail to see where Superman hung with DS. He put his all into a speed blitz and did NO DMG. And then Superman gets to fight DS damn near the top of the sun by taking advantage of a self inflicted wound. Where he knew he would have a sever power boost. And to top it off, DS was actually trading blows with Superman on top of the sun. Until the sun amp became too much to over come in addition to his own injuries.

I see one victory to superman's credit and that is Apok Now.

Also I noticed what so intersting about the first scans are the fact that superman knew the beams would kill him, and he didn't expect DS to survive. But DS not only survives, but then survives a beating at superman's hands. He also talks about his durability and the fact that he is able to house the Omega force.

God, you fancy yourself knowledgeable on the New Gods and you don't call the first fight wrong for the reason that it truly is -- that it was retconned into being Desaad in the form of Darkseid?!

Originally posted by Desaad
God, you fancy yourself knowledgeable on the New Gods and you don't call the first fight wrong for the reason that it truly is -- that it was retconned into being Desaad in the form of Darkseid?!

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I know about the desaad retcon. I just dont know which one's are actual retcons. And I never said I was a new god expert. I just champion them becuz they are my favorite characters. If you have info to share, then please do so and enlighten. Sharing knowlege is what we are here for. But if you do it in the way that you try, it will fall upon my deaf ears.

Dr. Fate and the first Action Comics appearance were retconned by that one.

Originally posted by Desaad
Dr. Fate and the first Action Comics appearance were retconned by that one.

OK I talked about five instances, which one are you referring to that is retconned?

The one that has Superman specifically leading the beams back to Darkseid. The first one.

Originally posted by Desaad
The one that has Superman specifically leading the beams back to Darkseid. The first one.

Thanos crushes a character that is an equal of Superman in terms pf his physical prowess while Thanos is above Superman.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos crushes a character that is an equal of Superman in terms pf his physical prowess while Thanos is above Superman.

UM no he's not. Superman is every bit as strong as Thanos is. Thanos has no strength feats that put him above superman.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
UM no he's not. Superman is every bit as strong as Thanos is. Thanos has no strength feats that put him above superman.

get out you still have 8 days left

this place has been so much better since you left, you can at least keep your dignity and hold your side of the bargain

Originally posted by Kurash
get out you still have 8 days left

this place has been so much better since you left, you can at least keep your dignity and hold your side of the bargain

Originally posted by quanchi112
October 5th to Novermber 2. 28 days partner.

the last post you made was oct. 10 parter, not the 5th

Originally posted by Kurash
the last post you made was oct. 10 parter, not the 5th