Illidan Stormrage Vs. Ganon

Originally posted by Burning thought
nothing to do with not likeing altho i agree is stupid, but none of the characters in Warcraft such as players are not canon, when Blizzard sit down and write the lore their not as ive used as an example before going to put "(insert guild here) defeat illidan)" the characters of warcraft who the players play as do not excist in the lore, do you disagree, can you find your own character in the lore of warcraft from an official page on the lore with your character taking part? no....

are you going to try and debate how canon it is that creatures thought dead respawn? hell why are we debating this, Illidan respawns tomorrow, hes not really dead!! 🙄

Originally posted by Burning thought
nothing to do with not likeing altho i agree is stupid, but none of the characters in Warcraft such as players are not canon, when Blizzard sit down and write the lore their not as ive used as an example before going to put "(insert guild here) defeat illidan)" the characters of warcraft who the players play as do not excist in the lore, do you disagree, can you find your own character in the lore of warcraft from an official page on the lore with your character taking part? no....

are you going to try and debate how canon it is that creatures thought dead respawn? hell why are we debating this, Illidan respawns tomorrow, hes not really dead!! 🙄

This the best you got?

Blizzard scripted that they die. Get over it. bring concrete proof that its not canon and maybe I'll change your diaper for you ya big baby.

Is Ganon still invunerable? (I mean according to the Thread rules)

Originally posted by Remindme
Is Ganon still invunerable? (I mean according to the Thread rules)

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Guess so. Never was removed.

Lol, then this still isn't really a debate is it?

Illidan uses great skill and cunning to perform attacks on Ganon, after 1 hour of this Ganon finally gets bored, grabs Illidan by the throat, and squeezes his head off like a chicken.

Point being, until you take that off, there is no way of Illidan winning

Originally posted by Remindme
Lol, then this still isn't really a debate is it?

Illidan uses great skill and cunning to perform attacks on Ganon, after 1 hour of this Ganon finally gets bored, grabs Illidan by the throat, and squeezes his head off like a chicken.

Point being, until you take that off, there is no way of Illidan winning

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I can't take it off.

Okay fine, until Darth takes it off, there's no point in debating

Originally posted by Remindme
Okay fine, until Darth takes it off, there's no point in debating

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Alot of what you said is gameplay mechanics, and you phail for it. Ganon wins.

wtf at V2D and Creshock, theres a reason i used Sarcastic face..... 🙄 🙄 🙄 its basically what Creshock is saying, because in gameplay players kill them, it doesnt mean squat because the players dont excist in the lore, if you cannot comprehend this reasoning, then you P-H-A-I-L with 5!! capital letters

i agree, he may not be able to win with ganon being invulerable, it would be a stalemate, take it off pleassorz

Originally posted by Burning thought
wtf at V2D and Creshock, theres a reason i used Sarcastic face..... 🙄 🙄 🙄 its basically what Creshock is saying, because in gameplay players kill them, it doesnt mean squat because the players dont excist in the lore, if you cannot comprehend this reasoning, then you P-H-A-I-L with 5!! capital letters

i agree, he may not be able to win with ganon being invulerable, it would be a stalemate, take it off pleassorz

Or are you saying that ALL deaths by characters in video games are part of gameplay? sly

Why would it be a stalemate? Are you giving him extra powers he doesn't possess? Yes, yes you are since you think he won't be able to be hurt either even though that hasn't been proven out of your fanboyish ignoring the fact that Illidan is nowhere near invincible and actaully does get beaten. 313

Originally posted by Creshosk
its not game play that has them die, that's scripted into the plot otherwise they wouldn't even need to be fought. 👇 So you "P-H-A-I-L with 5!! capital letters" Since you cannot tell the difference between gameplay and plot.

Or are you saying that ALL deaths by characters in video games are part of gameplay? sly

Why would it be a stalemate? Are you giving him extra powers he doesn't possess? Yes, yes you are since you think he won't be able to be hurt either even though that hasn't been proven out of your fanboyish ignoring the fact that Illidan is nowhere near invincible and actaully does get beaten. 313

ime confused why were having this debate in the first place, what diffrence did it make, wasnt it a convo between u and Darth and i butted in, meh..

what ime saying is, the game characters beating the bosses is not canon, the bosses dieing is canon...well...Illidans one is anyway, but Blizzard can easily change their minds in WoW since Illidan has come back before anyway and most thought him dead. *shrug*

erm no, you misunderstood the first part anyway

it would be a stalemate since Illidan is faster, better melee weapons, Ganon wouldnt win this any more than Illidan can win it, he would best Ganon at almost everything he tries to do, or takes flight and could just keep circling at speeds beyond ganon, can ganon even fly? ive never seen a video of ganon flying.....i mean hell ive seen some of his tricks and teleportation but his flying, never. Basically neither win even if ganon is invincible

for example no matter how invincible kain is, he could never beat Odin

Originally posted by Remindme
Is Ganon still invunerable? (I mean according to the Thread rules)

Ganon's own attacks seem to hurt him a bit; and I doubt they are the Master Sword or Light Arrows.

Originally posted by Burning thought
ime confused why were having this debate in the first place, what diffrence did it make, wasnt it a convo between u and Darth and i butted in, meh..

what ime saying is, the game characters beating the bosses is not canon,

Originally posted by Burning thought
the bosses dieing is canon...well...Illidans one is anyway, but Blizzard can easily change their minds in WoW since Illidan has come back before anyway and most thought him dead. *shrug*

Until the company does retcon a continuity or bring a character back, they're gone. MArvel could choose to give wolverine the power cosmic next comic, but that doesn't mean he has the power cosmic until they do.

Originally posted by Burning thought
erm no, you misunderstood the first part anyway

it would be a stalemate since Illidan is faster, better melee weapons,

Originally posted by Burning thought
Ganon wouldnt win this any more than Illidan can win it, he would best Ganon at almost everything he tries to do,

Originally posted by Burning thought
or takes flight and could just keep circling at speeds beyond ganon, can ganon even fly?

Have you played any of the games? 🤨

Originally posted by Burning thought
ive never seen a video of ganon flying.....i mean hell ive seen some of his tricks and teleportation but his flying, never. Basically neither win even if ganon is invincible

You've never played any of the games... you're arguing against something without even knowing about it. These fights are supposed to be about who would win, not who you want to win. That's like saying "ganon wins cause I like him" or "Illidan wins cause I like him."

It's not a valid argument...

for example no matter how invincible kain is, he could never beat Odin [/B][/QUOTE]

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Ganon's own attacks seem to hurt him a bit; and I doubt they are the Master Sword or Light Arrows.

You can't beat the game by just hitting ganon with his own attacks. It simply gives you an oppertunity to hit him with the light arrow without him deflecting it.

Originally posted by Creshosk
They only stun him a bit.. so is ilidan going to be using Ganon's triforce of power type attacks against him?

You can't beat the game by just hitting ganon with his own attacks. It simply gives you an oppertunity to hit him with the light arrow without him deflecting it.

The Four Swords had no problem hurting Ganon.

Originally posted by Creshosk
They only stun him a bit.. so is ilidan going to be using Ganon's triforce of power type attacks against him?

You can't beat the game by just hitting ganon with his own attacks. It simply gives you an oppertunity to hit him with the light arrow without him deflecting it.

What makes the light sword and arrow capable of killing Ganon?

Creshock isnt reading my posts and then says their wrong, wtf indeed, *shrug* and it seems he is biased incredibly, maybe even more than i usually am, he can be hurt by his own attacks?....interesting

can you show me any speed of ganon? if its vids ive seen so far then hes nowhere near as fast as illidan

Originally posted by ESB -1138
The Four Swords had no problem hurting Ganon.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Yeah, which was also the very first and weakest incarnation of Ganon who didn't even have a Triforce piece. Also, his own attacks hurting him is due to the fact that they were reflected by the Master Sword. DE, it is because he has gained the power of Din, the Goddess of power, but because of his evil heart and nature he can be harmed by said weapons. Also, BT, I already posted both vids of Ganon's speed, but no one is denying Illidan is faster.

i suppose no one credible, but i have the feeling Cresh with his comments doesnt agree, maybe ime misunderstanding his post nearly as much as he is mine

Originally posted by Burning thought
i suppose no one credible, but i have the feeling Cresh with his comments doesnt agree, maybe ime misunderstanding his post nearly as much as he is mine