Copyright theft and comic downloads

The loophole people aren't the problem (live in a different country, etc.). It's those who simply don't care enough about legality or the industry they are interested in to buy their comics.

Comic companies do fine financially. But when you see a marginally successful title cancelled, or if you try to break into the industry on any level and find it impossible, it's those sorts of fringe consequences that downloading creates.

I'd love to be able to show DL'ers just what they do, by stealing stuff of their that is valuble to them or took a lot of time. It never really seems to have moral consequences for some until they are immediately affected by it.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
The loophole people aren't the problem (live in a different country, etc.). It's those who simply don't care enough about legality or the industry they are interested in to buy their comics.

Comic companies do fine financially. But when you see a marginally successful title cancelled, or if you try to break into the industry on any level and find it impossible, it's those sorts of fringe consequences that downloading creates.

I'd love to be able to show DL'ers just what they do, by stealing stuff of their that is valuble to them or took a lot of time. It never really seems to have moral consequences for some until they are immediately affected by it.

How can you show them?

agree with digi

Originally posted by masterbruce
agree with digi

Crap. 🙁

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Comic companies do fine financially.

etc. etc.

Oh and Marvel at the end of the nieties. Bankrupt, forcing them to change their business model. Comics are not what makes Marvels money. Character copyright and merchandising is.

Was downloading even around when Valiant were there?

Originally posted by Switch 07
Was downloading even around when Valiant were there?

Nope, it's in answer to the blanket statement comic companies do O.K.

Anything which reduces profit margins does adversely affect a company.

Originally posted by Zebedee
Eclipse Bankrupt
Valiant Bankrupt
Defiant Bankrupt
Acclaim Bankrupt

etc. etc.

Oh and Marvel at the end of the nieties. Bankrupt, forcing them to change their business model. Comics are not what makes Marvels money. Character copyright and merchandising is.

Like I said, fringe consequences. There's companies in any industry that regularly bite it or are bought out by larger companies. And there's still a fair number of indy labels that thrive. And those weren't necessarily caused by downloading, since there's other factors too.

But yeah, it's an example of the harm that can be caused, because even if indy comics aren't downloaded as much, there's a trickle-down affect to the smaller companies from the large ones.

Originally posted by Zebedee
Mail order?

Yeah that work's except that it is very expensive.
Of the comics I read I actually buy all three Spider-man titles, Punisher War Journal and Thor, and this gets quite expensive (or well, not that expensive, between 6 US dollars per comic, but it stops me from buying everything I wanna read. And if I want comics older then one month (differs form comic to comic) I have to use E-bay, where certain comics might be as much as 20$ a piece when counting shipping.) Thus I only buy the 5 titles mentioned.

My country stopped selling DC comics. 🙁

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
My country stopped selling DC comics. 🙁

really? dang...

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
My country stopped selling DC comics. 🙁

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
My country stopped selling DC comics. 🙁

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
My country stopped selling DC comics. 🙁

I agree with MasterBruce.

Either you move to a country that HASN'T stopped selling DC, or you just go without.

Yeah, comics are that important. 😐.

Oh, I just got finished reading a downloaded comic. Time to go kick a pregnant woman in the stomach. See you guys later.

Originally posted by Soljer
I agree with MasterBruce.

Either you move to a country that HASN'T stopped selling DC, or you just go without.

Yeah, comics are that important. 😐.

Oh, I just got finished reading a downloaded comic. Time to go kick a pregnant woman in the stomach. See you guys later.

If your country doesn't even get them, its not like he will be paying for the comics some other way.

He's not losing them money if he wont buy them anyway.

Originally posted by Validus
Wow. The Marvel fanboys must have taken over the government. 🙁

Nah, its just quality control! 😈

I have downloaded version of almost every comic I own because I can't get to the comic shop until the weekends and I'm too impatient to wait that long. It's better that way I think, my actual comics stay in their mylar and I can re-read the downloaded versions when ever I want with out damaging the real version.

Originally posted by Validus
Wow. The Marvel fanboys must have taken over the government. 🙁

Yeah...

It was actually a couple of years ago.

But thankfully I bought The Killing Joke and The Dark Knight Returns, which were sold in my local store...

The last DC comic I bought was some Superman issue involving the Prankster...

Originally posted by Soljer
Oh, I just got finished reading a downloaded comic. Time to go kick a pregnant woman in the stomach. See you guys later.

You're only touchy about this because you are engaged in criminal activity. Respect society and rules.

Originally posted by Dexter_Morgan
You're only touchy about this because you are engaged in criminal activity. Respect society and rules.

I'm not touchy about it.

Yeah, I download comics. Every single comic I own, I've downloaded as well.

If I hear something on the forums about "OMG in BS comics 1299, so and so did XXXX," I'll likely go verify.

I support the industry. I just make light of it because I think it's hilarious how much you parallel your previous socks, yet still haven't been banned.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Nah, its just quality control! 😈

I have downloaded version of almost every comic I own because I can't get to the comic shop until the weekends and I'm too impatient to wait that long. It's better that way I think, my actual comics stay in their mylar and I can re-read the downloaded versions when ever I want with out damaging the real version.

Same here.

Plus, their scans look a lot prettier than me taking my hard copies to kinkos.