Superman Vs. A marvel character of your choice

Originally posted by carver9
Answer this for me. If superman is a planet pusher, with him moving the moon, why couldnt he just do that by himself. A planet>>>>moon in size. Why couldnt superman pull that feat by himself. Why did blue superman also need help moving the planet (let me here your excuses).

In that comic of superman moving war world where did it state that it had force pushing against superman, or is this something that you made up again and is trying to use some more of your math caculations. 🙄

So, Superman isn't a moonbuster? His weaker, younger cousin,
Supergirl can do it, and she isn't as powerful as he is:

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/...ct/moonbust.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/...t/moonbust2.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/...t/moonbust3.jpg

Superman also Throws a spaceship the size of a small moon out of our solar system

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/...esMOS-30-14.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/...esMOS-30-15.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/...esMOS-30-16.jpg

Powering Jor-El's planet moving technology while under a Red Sun

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/...nvol2167p17.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/...nvol2167p18.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/...167p19and20.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/...nvol2167p21.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/...nvol2167p22.jpg

Superman fights this guy Khyber up in the atmosphere, and their blows shake the earth beneath them. Khyber weakens him with nanites, then throws him through the earth, but he survives and later escapes after spending a long time in the Earth's core:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...sshakeearth.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...ndurability.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...durability1.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...durability2.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...durability3.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...durability4.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...durability5.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...durability6.jpg

One of Superman's punches can split a moon in half.

http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?i...strengthvs4.jpg

He can fly at incredible speeds but we know that...

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j...Superman/07.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j...perman20424.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j...perman20414.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j...perman63202.jpg

Here's the page where he moves war world.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=371890&pagenumber=49

Scans thanks to Rorschach. 😄

People who I think could beat superman
Phoenix Jean Grey
Franklin Richards
Onslaught
Galactus
Silver Surfer
Thor (maybe)
Apocalypse
Thanos (Darkseid marvel style)
Mister M
Doctor Strange (maybe)
Doctor Doom (maybe)
Other heralds of galactus (maybe, the one that comes to mind the most is fallen one for some reason)
World War Hulk (maybe)
Sentry (inconclusive not enough showings)
Gladiator (they have the same powers, but how to determine which one is more powerful)

note: I know people are gonna say no cosmic toptier people but the problem is that the thread said anybody from the marvel univere agianst superman.

Originally posted by magellan
People who I think could beat superman
Phoenix Jean Grey
Franklin Richards
Onslaught
Galactus
Silver Surfer
Thor (maybe)
Apocalypse
Thanos (Darkseid marvel style)
Mister M
Doctor Strange (maybe)
Doctor Doom (maybe)
Other heralds of galactus (maybe, the one that comes to mind the most is fallen one for some reason)
World War Hulk (maybe)
Sentry (inconclusive not enough showings)
Gladiator (they have the same powers, but how to determine which one is more powerful)

note: I know people are gonna say no cosmic toptier people but the problem is that the thread said anybody from the marvel univere agianst superman.

People on you list that cant beat superman

Onslaught - Maybe
Silver Surfer
Apocalypse
Thanos
Mister M
Other heralds of galactus
World War Hulk
Sentry
Gladiator

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
People on you list that cant beat superman

Onslaught - Maybe
Silver Surfer
Apocalypse
Thanos
Mister M
Other heralds of galactus
World War Hulk
Sentry
Gladiator

Well I thought Superman's second weakness was magic, so I figured Doctor Strange and Doctor Doom may at least be able to have a slight chance but I'm not entirely sure. (Something tells me that superman has tangled with magical beings in the dc universe and has come out on top so these may not be giving him trouble) I'm also not sure what would happen if Jean Grey Phoenix used her telepathic powers on Superman. P.S. why can the heralds of galactus beat supes and not galactus himelf?

Originally posted by magellan
Well I thought Superman's second weakness was magic, so I figured Doctor Strange and Doctor Doom may at least be able to have a slight chance but I'm not entirely sure. (Something tells me that superman has tangled with magical beings in the dc universe and has come out on top so these may not be giving him trouble) I'm also not sure what would happen if Jean Grey Phoenix used her telepathic powers on Superman. P.S. why can the heralds of galactus beat supes and not galactus himelf?

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
I took off the people that COULD beat him

Originally posted by magellan
sorry i just noticed that it says "can't" when I read it as "can." Anyways i think Silver Surfer can win against Superman even though I like superman more because he can drain all of the solar energy in superman and use to empower himself while weakening Superman (in theory). The only problem is that in the comics I remember the Thing put a dent in the surfers body and if I recall correctly Superman is both stronger and faster than the thing, so I guess it could go either way. Just some food for thought.

Here are 10 I recommend

1. Silver Surfer
2. Hulk
3. Darkseid
4. despero
5. doomsday
6. Superman (all star)
7. Superman (pre-crisis)
8. Pheonix (or Jean gray)
9. Karate kid
10. Thanos

Then come back and see if you dont see things differently

Originally posted by Sirius77
So, Superman isn't a moonbuster? His weaker, younger cousin,
Supergirl can do it, and she isn't as powerful as he is:

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/...ct/moonbust.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/...t/moonbust2.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/...t/moonbust3.jpg

Superman also Throws a spaceship the size of a small moon out of our solar system

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/...esMOS-30-14.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/...esMOS-30-15.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/...esMOS-30-16.jpg

Powering Jor-El's planet moving technology while under a Red Sun

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/...nvol2167p17.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/...nvol2167p18.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/...167p19and20.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/...nvol2167p21.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/...nvol2167p22.jpg

Superman fights this guy Khyber up in the atmosphere, and their blows shake the earth beneath them. Khyber weakens him with nanites, then throws him through the earth, but he survives and later escapes after spending a long time in the Earth's core:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...sshakeearth.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...ndurability.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...durability1.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...durability2.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...durability3.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...durability4.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...durability5.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...durability6.jpg

One of Superman's punches can split a moon in half.

http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?i...strengthvs4.jpg

He can fly at incredible speeds but we know that...

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j...Superman/07.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j...perman20424.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j...perman20414.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j...perman63202.jpg

Here's the page where he moves war world.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=371890&pagenumber=49

Scans thanks to Rorschach. 😄

you have helped me.

1st thing it took sun dipped superman to move war world and people was in shock that he was able to do that while he was even sundipped since everyone knows that under his own power he cant move a planet.

Second, in all of those scans, it didnt show once that the narrator or any other person said that he was even moving half the speed of light.

Then you want to bring up superman taking guns from people without them noticing it.
Something quicksilver has done.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=810242

Rapid fire
http://www.martinball.fsnet.co.uk/images/full/jugglingguns.jpg

quicksilver speed blitzing someone 1 tenth of a second.
http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/4541/avengers177052qy0ag.jpg

quicksilver speed blitz a team without them even noticing it.
http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hom11ti.jpg

Every speed feat on earth that you have put up for superman quicksilver probably can duplicate it. Show me a scan of the narrator saying that he was moving at light speed. What you have shown me mimic off exiles can duplicate it. At least the narrator said that mimic can move 93000 mps, half the speed of light, can the same be said for superman, show me a scan and Ill show you a scan where it says mimic moves 93000mps.

Lets look at mimics speed, could have pulled that same feat of taking guns away from those HUMANS.

http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles15162eh.jpg
http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exiles61129rx.jpg

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
You should take some time off from posting and go read some of the respect thread

Here are 10 I recommend

1. Silver Surfer
2. Hulk
3. Darkseid
4. despero
5. doomsday
6. Superman (all star)
7. Superman (pre-crisis)
8. Pheonix (or Jean gray)
9. Karate kid
10. Thanos

Then come back and see if you dont see things differently

gecko, you know nothing. If you dont think that silver surfer can beat superman than you need to go read his respect thread. Absorbing an entire sun, if he can do that, what would change him from absorbing superman. Matter manipulate, can create kryptonite. What would stop him from changing superman into a piece of ice or changing his uniform into kryptonite.

Gladiator has destroyed planets with his bare fist, what to stop him from hitting superman in the head with the same strength that destroyed planets. Superman got knocked out by a punch that was stated as being hit by a planet. You seem to think that if gladiator punches superman and superman dont pass out on the 1st punch that gladiator confidence would drop. He dont work like that. Why didnt his confidence drop when he was fighting supreme, someone who didnt even bleed when they were fighting. Why didnt his confidence fall when he fought hyperion, someone who was taking his best shots. Why didnt his confidence drop when he was fighting ego or silver surfer because he like the challenge and each was about to lose to gladiator due to his confidence going up.

You know nothing of marvel characters. Thor has superman strength along with one thing that superman is weak to and that is magic. Thor has the ability to take someones soul from them, etc... Thor have plenty of ways to beat superman whereas superman has ways of beating thor. Superman has been decked and knocked out with one punch by someone who isnt even as versatile as thor and could have the same strength as thor and that is captain marvel, whats to say that a well placed hit on the head from thor wouldnt ko superman like captain one punch koed superman twice.

Look at the other characters respect thread instead of looking at one, then maybe youll have enough knowledge about his opponents.

magellan, I think that you did a good job on your list and I agree, except with hulk getting a majority over superman, I cant see that happening.

lol, at you not thinking that thanos wont curb stomp superman. Now thats funny.

Originally posted by carver9
gecko, you know nothing.

If you dont think that silver surfer can beat superman than you need to go read his respect thread. Absorbing an entire sun, if he can do that, what would change him from absorbing superman. Matter manipulate, can create kryptonite. What would stop him from changing superman into a piece of ice or changing his uniform into kryptonite.

Gladiator has destroyed planets with his bare fist, what to stop him from hitting superman in the head with the same strength that destroyed planets. Superman got knocked out by a punch that was stated as being hit by a planet.

You seem to think that if gladiator punches superman and superman dont pass out on the 1st punch that gladiator confidence would drop. He dont work like that. Why didnt his confidence drop when he was fighting supreme, someone who didnt even bleed when they were fighting.

Why didnt his confidence fall when he fought hyperion, someone who was taking his best shots. Why didnt his confidence drop when he was fighting ego or silver surfer because he like the challenge and each was about to lose to gladiator due to his confidence going up.

You know nothing of marvel characters. Thor has superman strength along with one thing that superman is weak to and that is magic. Thor has the ability to take someones soul from them, etc... Thor have plenty of ways to beat superman whereas superman has ways of beating thor.

Superman is more magic resistant then you think. Over the last 20 or so years his resistance has been steadily growing. Give it 5 more years or so and he will be invulnerable to everything.

Superman has been decked and knocked out with one punch by someone who isnt even as versatile as thor and could have the same strength as thor and that is captain marvel, whats to say that a well placed hit on the head from thor wouldnt ko superman like captain one punch koed superman twice.

Thor isnt a strong as Captain marvel in a wet dream so you can let that notion go right now. Captain marvel isnt that much weaker then superman while superman is millions of time stronger then thor (litterally). Untill thor starts lifting the weight of eternity he can kiss his ass goodbye.

Look at the other characters respect thread instead of looking at one, then maybe youll have enough knowledge about his opponents.

magellan, I think that you did a good job on your list and I agree, except with hulk getting a majority over superman, I cant see that happening.

Im officially alseep now.

Originally posted by carver9
lol, at you not thinking that thanos wont curb stomp superman. Now thats funny.

coming from the guy that thinks surfer beats supes that means alot....

Originally posted by carver9
1st thing it took sun dipped superman to move war world and people was in shock that he was able to do that while he was even sundipped since everyone knows that under his own power he cant move a planet.

The only person who was in shock was Steel. I don't get how you get people being shocked from just one person being impressed with Superman moving a planet.

Superman has stated he's moved a planet out of orbit, and he's powered Jor-El's planet moving engines under a Red Sun. He has sufficient strength to move a planet under his own power.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman got knocked out by a punch that was stated as being hit by a planet.

He was probably faking it. In the following issue Superman confronted Luthor in Captain Marvel's costume.

It was likely a ploy so that Superman and Batman could take CM and HM by surprise.

And if you read that comic you'd know that Superman was being affected by Knite radiation due to Asteroid X.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman has been decked and knocked out with one punch by someone who isnt even as versatile as thor and could have the same strength as thor and that is captain marvel

Try not to ignore the fact that he took Superman by surprise. Something that's not going to happen n a forum fight.

You're both full of shit.

Surely the "both" comment wasnt aimed at me Rorschach

It was aimed at carver9 and Gecko4lif. 👆

Originally posted by Rorschach
It was aimed at carver9 and Gecko4lif. 👆

hey guys you forgot superman>>the one above all.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
People on you list that cant beat superman

Onslaught - Maybe
Silver Surfer
Apocalypse
Thanos
Mister M
Other heralds of galactus
World War Hulk
Sentry
Gladiator

😐 Are you serious????? If so then I guess there is no point talking to you, cause it seems you are crazy

In his defense, it's arguable whether the Surfer will beat Superman for a majority, the Hulk, Sentry, Apocalypse, and Gladiator would CERTAINLY not beat Superman for a majority - neither would most heralds.

....There are only a few durs on the list...

Gladiator should definetly be able to beat him. He tears apart stars and busts planets, supes could barely bust moons.