Originally posted by Sirius77I recall Rachel fighting Necrom and destroying planets, and a solar system (or more, it's been a while) though. 🙂
Actually I can't recall either. I can't recall her fighting anyone like
Gladiator... or Superman for that matter. But the other Pheonix did.
And needless to say...
Plus, I just looked, and Jean was crying in Wolverine's arms, shields down, etc, and he stabbed her. That's not a fight... or even relevant.
Originally posted by Sirius77
You are referring to 90's Superman with the mountain feat I believe. Current Superman pushes moons out of orbit and spits planetiods in half.
Also, Despero was capable of taking on the entire JLA and JSA at the same time, under his own physcal strength. It is not a bad thing to be one-shotted by Despero. Also, if you think that Captain Marvel wasn't amped during the "Virtue and Vice" miniseries, then you're wrong. He had currently absorbed the powers of Black Adam, Mary Marvel, and Captain Marvel jr. He was also amped by the spirit of Gluttony, as were the others. Also, if you are referring to the Max Lord incident with Wonder Woman, by all rights, she should have been dead. Notice how that was a Wonder Woman comic that you were referring to. Comicbook writers tend to give their characters a good showing, even if their opponent is superior, kind oflike Conner and Superboy-Prime. It's called jobbing. Also, Wonder Woman was not holding back, if I recall, she was talking to herself about how easily she could die, and how Kal was so much more powerful than her.I do agree that some versions of Hyperion would be a fight for Superman. But the only one that comes to mind is Paradise X Hyperion.
He was the only one that actually had the durability to fight Superman. However, King Hyperion has durability, but not enough to fight Superman. King Hyperion's major feat is his ridiculous regeneration. However, Namora was still able to snap his neck, and his heat vision was still able to pierce his skin. I never saw any superiority in King Hyperion's heat vision to Superman. The only difference that I saw was how each one took heat vision. Superman shruggs it off. Hyperion gets blasted in half. See my point? Also, as far as the "Hyperion killed everyone, even Galactus" argument, I have the same opinion of that as I do Sentry stalemating Galactus. Not to say that King Hyperion wasn't a badass, because he was. But you see my point.
You seem to know little of king hyperion. King hyperion>>superman. You fail to realize that characters have bad showing like superman getting shot by kryptonite bullets from a regular human. If superman goes faster than a speeding bullet, why would he let kryptonite bullets even hit him. Then after that he get shot in the head by the same gun and end up dying (but brought back to life.). Thats a bad showing for superman but I dont use it against him because I know that he is much faster than that. He also got stabbed in the chest by raal ul with a kryptonite sword. Now this is a guy that you all say have faster than light reflexes but he is getting a hole stabbed in his chest by raal ul, a f****** human.
King hyperion has bad showing but his good showings out weighs that by a lot. Taking out a group of top tiers by himself.
The reason I brought up despero was because you said superman was so fast. If he was so fast why did he get knocked the hell out by someone who has hulk level speed. Lobo has hulk level speed also but almost killed the man of steel.
Wonderwoman did compliment superman on his power but she also said that she was holding back. She said that she wasnt there to kill him, she said she was there to stop him, slow him down. By the way what happened in that wonderwoman book was cannon. Wonderwoman owned superman.
I almost forgot, I need to correct you on something, King hyperion dont shoot heat vision, he shoots out cosmic blast, two different things. Namorita was stated as being invulnerable and having hulk like strength but his beams easily shot through her. Vision is nigh invulnerable (sat inside of a volcano and fought silver surfer) and got killed by those same blast).Colossus is nigh invulnerable and his beam shot through him. Hulk got killed by those same beams. Its wasnt close to being heat vision, its a cosmic blast.
I would like for you to show me where it says that captain marvel was amped when he knocked superman out. You do know that he knocked him out on two occasions and then he was stated by eclipso as being a being that could kill superman with one punch.
Show me a scan of superman being able to move a moon by himself. To my knowledge he had to sundip to move a planet the size of earths moon, war world.
I think all versions of hyperions would be a good fight for superman but all version cant beat him. But I do know some version that could beat him and I know some that could stalemate him and I know some that superman would just rape.
Sentry have proven so far as being unbeatable. King hyperion was a character that was shown as being unbeatable also. They had to transport him back to his home world in order to defeat him. So hey since the NARRATOR did say that both beat galactus, you cant take that away from them.
Originally posted by moonknight11
You're right Gladiator is WWWAAAAAYYYYYYYY above Superman.
Naah, I dont think that gladiator is that much above superman but I do consider him being supermans superior when it comes to raw power. Superman have him when it comes to being the smarter out of the two, thats what make superman superman. Just like it was stated in professorx files, if gladiator has full confidence anything that he thinks about, he can accomplish.
Originally posted by Sirius77
Based upon Gladiator's recent showings, Superman would
rape him. He would do so to full power Gladiator also.
Based on despero recent showings, getting one shotted by heat vision, Im thinking even colossus could take him right now. Thats bad logic to use when you know the characters powers.
Originally posted by carver9
If superman goes faster than a speeding bullet, why would he let kryptonite bullets even hit him. Then after that he get shot in the head by the same gun and end up dying (but brought back to life.).
He got shot because he was tending to Batman, and he didn't know they were Knite bullets. He had his backed turned.
Don't take things out of context.
Originally posted by carver9
He also got stabbed in the chest by raal ul with a kryptonite sword. Now this is a guy that you all say have faster than light reflexes but he is getting a hole stabbed in his chest by raal ul, a f****** human.
He purposely took the sword through his chest so Batman wouldn’t get stabbed. This was seconds after he had recovered from having the iron in his blood turned to Knite.
Do you actually read what’s going on in the comics or just look at the freaking pictures?
Originally posted by carver9
Wonderwoman did compliment superman on his power but she also said that she was holding back. She said that she wasnt there to kill him, she said she was there to stop him, slow him down. By the way what happened in that wonderwoman book was cannon. Wonderwoman owned superman.
Owned?
Wonder Woman was the one who got punched from the Sun to the Earth and had to use birds in order to distract Superman. After the fight was over Superman healed in seconds.
Originally posted by carver9
I would like for you to show me where it says that captain marvel was amped when he knocked superman out. You do know that he knocked him out on two occasions and then he was stated by eclipso as being a being that could kill superman with one punch.
Captain Marvel is powered by magic. He himself told Hourman that he took out Superman with two punches because he took him by surprise and he got lucky, he also noted that Superman was weak against magic.
Marvel has only knocked out Superman twice. Both instances are when he took Superman by surprise.
Originally posted by carver9
Show me a scan of superman being able to move a moon by himself.
Respect thread. There's Superman tossing the ship the size of a small moon out of our Solar System, turning the wheels of Maggedon, destroying a Moon, MM telling a Knite poisoned Superman that he would hit the moon out of orbit if he continued pounding on it, etc.
He also stated he moved a planet out of orbit, and he's powered Jor-El planet moving engines while under a Red Sun.
And don't bring up the MM, WW, and Superman "moving the Earth". They were trying to keep t in orbit while it was getting sucked into the Sun, if I recall correctly.
Originally posted by carver9
To my knowledge he had to sundip to move a planet the size of earths moon, war world.
A planet that was using the power of a Big Bang and multiple Galaxies to counter-measure Superman pushing it.
Read the comics, and don't take things out of context.
Originally posted by Rorschach
He got shot because he was tending to Batman, and he didn't know they were Knite bullets. He had his backed turned.Don't take things out of context.
He purposely took the sword through his chest so Batman wouldn’t get stabbed. This was seconds after he had recovered from having the iron in his blood turned to Knite.
Do you actually read what’s going on in the comics or just look at the freaking pictures?
Owned?
Wonder Woman was the one who got punched from the Sun to the Earth and had to use birds in order to distract Superman. After the fight was over Superman healed in seconds.
Captain Marvel is powered by magic. He himself told Iron Man that he took out Superman with two punches because he took him by surprise and he got lucky, he also noted that Superman was weak against magic.
Marvel has only knocked out Superman twice. Both instances are when he took Superman by surprise.
Respect thread. There's Superman tossing the ship the size of a small moon out of our Solar System, turning the wheels of Maggedon, destroying a Moon, MM telling a Knite poisoned Superman that he would hit the moon out of orbit if he continued pounding on it, etc.
He also stated he moved a planet out of orbit, and he's powered Jor-El planet moving engines while under a Red Sun.
And don't bring up the MM, WW, and Superman "moving the Earth". They were trying to keep t in orbit while it was getting sucked into the Sun, if I recall correctly.
A planet that was using the power of a Big Bang and multiple Galaxies to counter-measure Superman pushing it.
Read the comics, and don't take things out of context.
If he was faster than light why couldnt he just move quickly over there and take slap the knife out of raal hands and prevented both of them from being stabbed.
Yeah wonderwoman did get punched from the sun to the earth but she still won the battle while holding back on a amped, angry superman that was holding back.
So basically youre telling me that captain marvel>>superman since he does have the ability to one shot superman and has proven on occasions to be faster than superman.
Answer this for me, when superman was tossing the ship the size of a small moon, was that back in the 90's. If so then you cant bring that up since I cant bring up scans of superman stating that he cant move the speed of light. Show me some recent superman strength or speed feats. You also said that I cant bring up gladiator saying that he can move planets so dont bring up anything about superman being able to move anything unless its on panel.
Answer this for me. If superman is a planet pusher, with him moving the moon, why couldnt he just do that by himself. A planet>>>>moon in size. Why couldnt superman pull that feat by himself. Why did blue superman also need help moving the planet (let me here your excuses).
In that comic of superman moving war world where did it state that it had force pushing against superman, or is this something that you made up again and is trying to use some more of your math caculations. 🙄
Originally posted by carver9
If he was faster than light why couldnt he just move quickly over there and take slap the knife out of raal hands and prevented both of them from being stabbed.
You conveniently ignored the part where I said Superman had just recovered from having the iron in his blood turned into Knite.
Originally posted by carver9
Yeah wonderwoman did get punched from the sun to the earth but she still won the battle while holding back on a amped, angry superman that was holding back.
No one won that fight, and Superman wasn't amped.
Originally posted by carver9
So basically youre telling me that captain marvel>>superman since he does have the ability to one shot superman and has proven on occasions to be faster than superman.
Captain Marvel is Superman's equal but has an advantage again Superman because he's powered by magic. He only one-shot Superman by taking him by surprise. That's not how forum fights work.
Captain Marvel hasn't proven to be faster than Superman. Justice is not cannon, which you would know if you actually read it or at least know who the current Flash it.
Originally posted by carver9
Answer this for me, when superman was tossing the ship the size of a small moon, was that back in the 90's.
Yep. He was much weaker than he is now.
Originally posted by carver9
If so then you cant bring that up since I cant bring up scans of superman stating that he cant move the speed of light.
Doesn't work that way.
Superman gets stronger as time goes by, not weaker. Superman saying he couldn't fly FTL was years ago, now he can because he's gotten much faster.
He also gets stronger as time goes by, not weaker.
Originally posted by carver9
Show me some recent superman strength or speed feats.
You work at a Comic Book shop, read some when you have some spare time.
Originally posted by carver9
You also said that I cant bring up gladiator saying that he can move planets so dont bring up anything about superman being able to move anything unless its on panel.
I know Gladiator can move planets. I only wanted you to show me him moving planets on-panel because you refused to believe Superman could do so, when he has stated that he has.
Originally posted by carver9
Answer this for me.
I already have in several other threads.
Originally posted by carver9
If superman is a planet pusher, with him moving the moon, why couldnt he just do that by himself.
Because they were moving the Moon at high-speeds in order to defeat the White Martians, and then move it back to it's proper orbit. They had to move it right at Earth and then shit it's direction so it wouldn't collide with Earth. This also after several of Earth's magicians had nullified Lunar gravity.
Originally posted by carver9
A planet>>>>moon in size. Why couldnt superman pull that feat by himself.
I just explained why.
And the fact that he did it with help doesn't mean he couldn't do it on his own.
In one instance, members of The Avengers helped Thor lift a Island. Of course Thor could have done it on his own, but they helped anyway.
Originally posted by carver9
Why did blue superman also need help moving the planet (let me here your excuses).
Superman Blue didn't get help from anybody, and he didn't move it with physical strength.
Originally posted by carver9
In that comic of superman moving war world where did it state that it had force pushing against superman, or is this something that you made up again and is trying to use some more of your math caculations. 🙄
Brainiac 13 had just taken the energy of Imperirex, and was using to push against Superman's push.
Originally posted by Rorschach
You conveniently ignored the part where I said Superman had just recovered from having the iron in his blood turned into Knite.No one won that fight, and Superman wasn't amped.
Captain Marvel is Superman's equal but has an advantage again Superman because he's powered by magic. He only one-shot Superman by taking him by surprise. That's not how forum fights work.
Captain Marvel hasn't proven to be faster than Superman. Justice is not cannon, which you would know if you actually read it or at least know who the current Flash it.
Yep. He was much weaker than he is now.
Doesn't work that way.
Superman gets stronger as time goes by, not weaker. Superman saying he couldn't fly FTL was years ago, now he can because he's gotten much faster.
He also gets stronger as time goes by, not weaker.
You work at a Comic Book shop, read some when you have some spare time.
I know Gladiator can move planets. I only wanted you to show me him moving planets on-panel because you refused to believe Superman could do so, when he has stated that he has.
I already have in several other threads.
Because they were moving the Moon at high-speeds in order to defeat the White Martians, and then move it back to it's proper orbit. They had to move it right at Earth and then shit it's direction so it wouldn't collide with Earth. This also after several of Earth's magicians had nullified Lunar gravity.
I just explained why.
And the fact that he did it with help doesn't mean he couldn't do it on his own.
In one instance, members of The Avengers helped Thor lift a Island. Of course Thor could have done it on his own, but they helped anyway.
Superman Blue didn't get help from anybody, and he didn't move it with physical strength.
Brainiac 13 had just taken the energy of Imperirex, and was using to push against Superman's push.
Wow, I asked that question for a reason (about superman not being able to stop himself from being stabbed.), I'll use it in another debate.
First thing superman was amped due to the fact that he was by the sun absorbing its rays when he punched wonderwoman back to earth. Wonderwoman could have killed superman when she sliced his throat, she could have finished the job while he was standing in shock holding his neck.
Captain marvel and black adam have both proven to be faster than superman since it was stated ON PANEL when captain marvel and flash was circling the world that he was going the speed of light. The same for black adam, it was state on panel that he was going 99% the speed of light on earth, can the same be said for superman. The fastest quote I have seen for him was a little above 2000mps and that was on panel. If you would like to prove me wrong a scan would be nice. By the way I was referring to justice even though the writer himself thought that captain marvel was faster.
Answer this for me, if captain marvel was as or more powerful then superman, why when captain marvel gave superman his powers, why did superman state that he never felt power like that before.
Where are you getting the fact that superman is getting stronger as time goes by. Im not saying that he is or isnt but where are you getting this from. Hyperion absorbs solar energy also, so every day that a comic or year goes by, he is getting stronger. Its a comic, its not real life. I would like for you to show me a scan or bio of it saying that superman is getting more powerful as time goes by.
Im not going by what gladiator said when he said that he can move planets. Im going by the fact that he has moved a asteroid the size of a planet and have also destroyed a planet with 9 moons with his bare hands with ease.
That still dont change the fact that superman can or cant move a planet by himself. Just because you believe he can dont mean that he cant do it. Until it is shown on panel that he can even move something the size of a island then Im not believing that he is as strong as you dream of him as being.
Did thor say that he needed help, nope, but superman did.
Show me the scan of brainiac stating that he is using the energy to push against superman. I would love to see this.
Originally posted by carver9
First thing superman was amped due to the fact that he was by the sun absorbing its rays when he punched wonderwoman back to earth.
They were only there for a few seconds. He punched her back to Earth right after she took some Knite that Batman had given her.
Originally posted by carver9
Wonderwoman could have killed superman when she sliced his throat, she could have finished the job while he was standing in shock holding his neck.
She didn't even come close to killing him. The reason Superman stopped attacking her was because she had Max Lord in her lasso and his hold over Superman was broken.
The would healed in seconds.
Originally posted by carver9
Captain marvel and black adam have both proven to be faster than superman since it was stated ON PANEL when captain marvel and flash was circling the world that he was going the speed of light.
It was stated on-panel that Superman could race a photon to it's target. He's also flown several light-years on-panel. He also escaped from a black hole by flying at the speed of light, on-panel.
Originally posted by carver9
The same for black adam, it was state on panel that he was going 99% the speed of light on earth , can the same be said for superman.
He's gone several light-years in minutes. That's faster than 99% the speed of light.
Originally posted by carver9
The fastest quote I have seen for him was a little above 2000mps and that was on panel.
So was him escaping from a black hole, flying light-years to battle a Sun-Eater, flying to the Sun and back in under 2 minutes while fighting Wonder Woman, etc.
Originally posted by carver9
If you would like to prove me wrong a scan would be nice.
Respect thread has all of those scans.
Originally posted by carver9
By the way I was referring to justice even though the writer himself thought that captain marvel was faster.
Justice isn't cannon.
Originally posted by carver9
Answer this for me, if captain marvel was as or more powerful then superman, why when captain marvel gave superman his powers, why did superman state that he never felt power like that before.
Because he could see things that he couldn't see before, other dimensions, magical beings, etc.
Originally posted by carver9
Where are you getting the fact that superman is getting stronger as time goes by. Im not saying that he is or isnt but where are you getting this from.
He becomes stronger as he absorbs more and more solar energy. Mongul also made Superman aware of his mental blocks.
Originally posted by carver9
Hyperion absorbs solar energy also, so every day that a comic or year goes by, he is getting stronger. Its a comic, its not real life.
Common sense still applies. Superman gets stronger as he absorbs more and more solar energy. He can also absorb a large amount of solar energy by sun-dipping thought that is only temporary. It also explains why he has gotten more powerful throughout the years. During the Bryne's era he needed an oxygen mask to survive in space for an extended period of time, now he doesn't need one.
Originally posted by carver9
I would like for you to show me a scan or bio of it saying that superman is getting more powerful as time goes by.
I'd like for you read comics instead of just taking scans out of context.
Originally posted by carver9
Im not going by what gladiator said when he said that he can move planets. Im going by the fact that he has moved a asteroid the size of a planet
Don't remember it being stated that the asteroid was the size of a planet.
Originally posted by carver9
have also destroyed a planet with 9 moons with his bare hands with ease.
More moons doesn't mean the planet was bigger.
Originally posted by carver9
That still dont change the fact that superman can or cant move a planet by himself.
He's said he has and he powered Jor-El's planet moving engines under a red sun.
Originally posted by carver9
Just because you believe he can dont mean that he cant do it.
I shouldn't believe Superman? Why? It's not like he lies to himself all the time. It's not like he tells himself that he did something that he's never actually done.
Originally posted by carver9
Until it is shown on panel that he can even move something the size of a island then Im not believing that he is as strong as you dream of him as being.
He threw the ship the size of a small moon out of our solar system. Turned the wheels of Maggedon, which dwarfed our Solar System, etc.
Originally posted by carver9
Did thor say that he needed help, nope, but superman did.
Superman didn't say he needed help to move the Moon when fighting against the White Martians. He said that everybody could help move the Expanded Moon, which just so happened to be several times bigger than the Earth.
Originally posted by carver9
Show me the scan of brainiac stating that he is using the energy to push against superman. I would love to see this.
Action Comics 782. Go read it.
After flying through the sun for an increase in power, SUPERMAN MOVES A PLANET. Specifically, WarWorld, home of Braniac. But theres more. Braniac has stolen the energy of Imperiex. Imperiex gained his power from the consumption of thousands of whole galaxies since the dawn of time. Hence his universal reputation as the “Devourer of Galaxies. It is argued that Braniac wasn’t resisting Superman's push, and that Superman was “merely†moving a planet. This is directly contradicted by Braniacas narrative: “Full thrust counter-measure! How is he moving my planet? The Kryptonian does not have that power! The panel clearly shows the blue Imperiex energies firing from WarWorldâ engines. Yes, Superman was resisting the awesome Imperiex-begotten force, and pushed WarWorld through a boom tube to the beginning of time (big bang).
Originally posted by carver9
You seem to know little of king hyperion. King hyperion>>superman. You fail to realize that characters have bad showing like superman getting shot by kryptonite bullets from a regular human. If superman goes faster than a speeding bullet, why would he let kryptonite bullets even hit him. Then after that he get shot in the head by the same gun and end up dying (but brought back to life.). Thats a bad showing for superman but I dont use it against him because I know that he is much faster than that. He also got stabbed in the chest by raal ul with a kryptonite sword. Now this is a guy that you all say have faster than light reflexes but he is getting a hole stabbed in his chest by raal ul, a f****** human.King hyperion has bad showing but his good showings out weighs that by a lot. Taking out a group of top tiers by himself.
The reason I brought up despero was because you said superman was so fast. If he was so fast why did he get knocked the hell out by someone who has hulk level speed. Lobo has hulk level speed also but almost killed the man of steel.
Wonderwoman did compliment superman on his power but she also said that she was holding back. She said that she wasnt there to kill him, she said she was there to stop him, slow him down. By the way what happened in that wonderwoman book was cannon. Wonderwoman owned superman.
I almost forgot, I need to correct you on something, King hyperion dont shoot heat vision, he shoots out cosmic blast, two different things. Namorita was stated as being invulnerable and having hulk like strength but his beams easily shot through her. Vision is nigh invulnerable (sat inside of a volcano and fought silver surfer) and got killed by those same blast).Colossus is nigh invulnerable and his beam shot through him. Hulk got killed by those same beams. Its wasnt close to being heat vision, its a cosmic blast.
I would like for you to show me where it says that captain marvel was amped when he knocked superman out. You do know that he knocked him out on two occasions and then he was stated by eclipso as being a being that could kill superman with one punch.
Show me a scan of superman being able to move a moon by himself. To my knowledge he had to sundip to move a planet the size of earths moon, war world.
I think all versions of hyperions would be a good fight for superman but all version cant beat him. But I do know some version that could beat him and I know some that could stalemate him and I know some that superman would just rape.
Sentry have proven so far as being unbeatable. King hyperion was a character that was shown as being unbeatable also. They had to transport him back to his home world in order to defeat him. So hey since the NARRATOR did say that both beat galactus, you cant take that away from them.
I've read pretty much every issue of Exiles with King Hyperion in it. From what I have seen, all he did was brag about killing everyone in his universe. Was it shown on panel? No. That is why, imo, it's the same as the Sentry Galactus fight.
The top tiers taken out by King Hyperion were Hulk, Firestar, Mimic, Blink, Namora, Morph, Gambit, Sasquach, Wolverine, Iceman, Forge, Storm, a jobbing Magneto, etc... Superman could take out all of these even more easily than Hyperion could. Superman is Faster (Hyperion didn't even show any interplanetary speed), Stronger (He can certainly lift an asteriod, and wouldn't waste time with a class 90 like Namora), and more Durable (Namora WOULD NOT be able to snap his neck, and he doesn't get pwned by his own eye beams).
Also, if your talking about speed, then why isit that Hyperion wasn't able to dodge Collossus' punch. Colossus has NO superspeed whatsoever, but he landed a punch on King Hyperion. King Hyperion has shown next to no speed feats that can even compare to Superman's lowest speed feats.
With the Wonder Woman fight, you forgot to mention the fact that Wonder Woman barely survived with a broken wrist, a heat vision blast that penetrated her all the way to her bones, etc... If Superman wouldn't have snapped out of it when she cut his throat, he still would have killed her. It only took a few seconds for his neck to heal. That's all that he would have needed. Also, we can all agree that it was PIS that she was able to sneek up on Superman using Super Hearing. We can all also agree that Woder Woman is leagues above Namora in strength, and she certainly was unable to snap Superman's neck. Hmmm, imagine what she would do to Hyperion?
Also, as far as the eye beams go, Namora got hit and survived for a while, as opposed to being completely disentegrated. She was also hit by
an insane Thing, and she bled. Also, Vision has never been that durable
either. In Avengers: Disassembled, She-Hulk ripped him in half. Also, Colossus is barely class 80 strength. He also, got a hole punched through his chest by IRON FIST in the Exiles book after the one where Mimic got possesed by the Brood. The characters that were killed by Hyperion's vision were below top-tier. D-list characters. Another thing, it's not cosmic vision... he referrs to it as Atomic Vision.
About the Captain Marvel thing, he was amped by the spirit of Gluttony. You'd have to be crazy to think that he wasn't. Batman and Mr Terrific were both amped by the spirits of Pride and Wrath, and they clocked Hawkman. Also, GL Kyle was possesed by Envy and he PWNED Sentinel.
They were amped. Also, Eclipso stated that in DOV. Captain Marvel was amped by every magical force available at that time, so I can see why he'd be able to kill Superman with one punch. HE BEAT SPECTER.
Also, you don't believe that Superman can push a moon? I can direct you to the Superman Respect Thread where he throws a moon sized ship away from Earth. Or where he splits a moon in half effortlessly. Or where Supergirl busts a moon with one punch. All of these are in the Superman and Supergirl Respect Threads. I don't feel like searching for one.
To me, no version of Hyperion would beat Superman. The only one that would challenge him would be Paradise X Hyperion. Only because of durability though. No other version of Hyperion would last more than five minutes at most. None of them have the speed, and most are under class 80 strength.
Also, as far as "the NARRATOR" saying that both King Hyperion and Sentry beat Galactus... SPIDERMAN said that Sentry beat Galactus, and HYPERION HIMSELF said that he beat Glactus. Hyperion was completely insane. And Spiderman has been loosing intellegence sice the early 80's. Also, if no one remembers any of Sentry's feats because they were all erased, then how did Spiderman remember that? He was lying. As was King Hyperion. Neither one stalemated Glactus because there is no on panel evidence to prove it.
Also, King Hyperion has been beaten numerous times:
First off, he got hit with his own attack, crippled, and blown to atoms.
Second, he had his neck snapped.
Third, Blink teleported sand into his body and he died again temporarily.
Fourth, after he got beaen by his two weaker versions of himself, he was BFR.
As for Sentry... never been beaten? 😆 😆 😆
First off, he got his nose busted by Ironman.
Second off, he got pwned and BFRed like a child by Genis.
Third off, He got PWNED by She-tron. She made cough up blood uncontrollably, and he still needed time o recover even after she left.
Also, he got pwned by the helicarrier. He needed the help of Ms Marvel and Wonder Man... 😆
Never beaten? Choose your words more carefully.