Originally posted by 2damnloud
And I said you couldn't??
It was in general.
I wanted to to present some sort of BASIS for your opinion. Just curious to know how you came to such a conclusion with absolutely NOTHING backing you.
You predictin that I'm not going listening to something that I formally ASKED of you is a lame excuse to not even try. I guess you know that I'm right and you have nothing to back you up. Nothing of any merit, anyway.Sidenote: me totally disagreeing with your opinion does not= not listening.
See, This is better.You find it hard to explain.
I can accept that.✅
Yet you are incapable of actually formulating a reason why?? 😕
I look, I ponder, I match it with the evidence and common sense, and the shit just doesn't add up.
Like Exodus and I had some sort of argument on whether she could control water. I said she mentally controls water and phases of matter(used the scentist's analysis, some scans of her making a lenses from water vapor etc.) ExodusCloak(aka yeahbutwhat) says she doesn't directl do it, she uses some sort of static field(ionic field; which doesnt even exist) to repel water in some fashion etc.. He proceeded to use a scientific experiement with a stream(not water vapor) being manipulated by some static.
You want a analysis of Storm's powers so bad? Here's the summary, with added Magneto reference because he always comes up. Do you really not like him or something? Anyway:
Magneto and Storm essentially have the same power. Anything one can do, the other can do to some degree. The difference is in their application and methodology. Magneto, being a scientist, applied it to computers and basic forces of physics. Storm being a hippy, applies it to nature, and though blah blah mystical blah blah spirits, it's basically wired in her skull that way. Either one of them can replicate the others feats to some degree but it's not their forte so it'd naturally be more tough. Two sides of the same coin. I could spend hours cherry picking every single word until I feel it's expressed exactly what I'm trying to get across or elaborating but I'm not, even though I've milled through it a few times already. You can make your gripes about who has the most "power" but clearly you have some kind of thing with Storm, like she represents you to some degree or something and going into that wouldn't be worth it.
Didn't ask you to "care". Just to show that 9/10, my argumnets make the most sense to an "outsider" looking in.
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Originally posted by Soljer
So, Rutard or 2damndumb? Which is it?
2 is more ridiculous in an obvious way, from the perspective of an outsider. However, when you take a closer look, it becomes clear that Ru actually believes all this crap, wholeheartedly and with a measure of unhealthy devotion, while 2oodles is more about getting people riled up.
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
You want a analysis of Storm's powers so bad? Here's the summary, with added Magneto reference because he always comes up. Do you really not like him or something? Anyway:Magneto and Storm essentially have the same power. Anything one can do, the other can do to some degree. The difference is in their application and methodology. Magneto, being a scientist, applied it to computers and basic forces of physics. Storm being a hippy, applies it to nature, and though blah blah mystical blah blah spirits, it's basically wired in her skull that way. Either one of them can replicate the others feats to some degree but it's not their forte so it'd naturally be more tough. Two sides of the same coin. I could spend hours cherry picking every single word until I feel it's expressed exactly what I'm trying to get across or elaborating but I'm not, even though I've milled through it a few times already. You can make your gripes about who has the most "power" but clearly you have some kind of thing with Storm, like she represents you to some degree or something and going into that wouldn't be worth it.
Cool.
I can rock with this.
There is the glaring flaw in you thesis in that you make differentiation between "nature" and "basic forces of physics". There are essentially the same.
Uhh, Storm's powers are psionic and Magneto uses Magnetic fields.
You were right in that they can do some of the same things--Magnetism/electricity pretty much the same except in certain instances such as static(no magnetism) and a permenant magnet(no electricity).
Storm obviously has the most power and potential.
Anways, if that's the best you've got, I can accept it.
Thanx for trying.✅
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Blah blah.You're under the assumption that his neural pathways have to move at lightspeed to foster superfast movements??
The neurons can fire at normal speed, and the action be fast.
If infact she can see the neurons fire BEFORE the superfast action, how fast the action is becomes irrelevant😂.
In talking about linear movements:
Superman see's her and percieves her, he then decides to move in on her. His brain sends the signal to his muscles at normal speed and he moves at whatever stupid dumb fast speed. Storm is already ready like.........yesterday😂
Then again, why would he fly superfast into someone who he only has limited knowledge of?😂
About the shields:
The same foolish argument was used for Ironman. All psionics are not the same.
She's gotten through Magneto's shields enough.
His field is electrical, so no, it's not "alien to her"😂 🙄.
What do punches from those guys have to do with Storm?? Do you have any actual proof of any correlation?? No?? Well trash that shit.
Shazzam's lightning being magical= Stronger than Storm's? Again, do you have proof of a correlation??
It has been revelaed that Storm is a direct descendant of the first sorceress. I guess her lightning is EXTRA, stupid WTF strong, so she REALLY shits on Supes.😂
The sun's core gives off millions of degrees of heat. And do you have any proof that the heat aspect is something seperate and apart from what he thrives on and therefore would hurt him if he wasn't so "durable"?? If this was true, then he wouldn't get hurt by any blast at any time except ones>>>>the core of the sun. Ask yourself, has he been phased by blast that are less than the intensity of the Sun's core?? See how your argument falls apart??😂
The shit fell apart in the first sentence.--"He thrives on the sun, yes, but......". There are no "buts". He either does, or he doesn't😂
Possibly the single most stupid thing i have ever read in my years here at KMC... and that is saying alot.
you don't have a clue... at all.
so i'm done even talking to you, unless its to warn you your blatant breaking of forum rules, that you just seem to love to do...
Originally posted by KK the Great
The **** it can.As soon as a writer starts talking about galaxies in reference to a character whose power is weather control, that's the point when an editor should step in and say, "what the hell are you doing?"
thats actually claremont, as a people will tell you, claremont likes to talk big, but sucks at actually defining what powers can and cant do... he always has...
Originally posted by pr1983
Possibly the single most stupid thing i have ever read in my years here at KMC... and that is saying alot.you don't have a clue... at all.
so i'm done even talking to you, unless its to warn you your blatant breaking of forum rules, that you just seem to love to do...
Truth is an offense, I see.
I do have a clue about on thing, I know that you're a Storm hater and have been for some 2 years now.✅ Even if you did respond, it would really mean very little to nothing to me anyway just off the strength of that.✅
Why are you even still a mod and how did you become one in the first place is what I'm clueless of. 🙄
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I think you're confusing your common sense with everyone's common sense. Everyone's thought process is different. I'm not saying I'm absolutely correct and objective on the subject, since subjectivity clouds everything, but do you ever contemplate the possibility of yourself making a mistake?
I wish I'd gotten an answer to this beforehand.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
There is the glaring flaw in you thesis in that you make differentiation between "nature" and "basic forces of physics". There are essentially the same.
Storm seems completely wired to doing "nature" feats. Tornadoes, lightning, things regarding weather. Yes, you'd have to go through the basic forces of physics but... it's like, in fact very similar to, the way human smile. It takes contracting X amount of muscles to do it. How's it work? Crap if I know, but we can naturally do it, it's coded in there. Storm's upbringing and natural ties to nature interweaves the two. So being able to coordinate a hurricane would come as easily a regular person could clench a fist or walk on two legs. It's pretty round about. Many energy welding characters seem to be like this. Just a mental block or two from being a flat out Silver Surfer.
This ties in with the numerous references to keeping herself in check because just as a person may physically lash about their fists or legs when they get out of control, the same will happen with the weather with Storm.
I really don't think she's that aware of how her feats occur down to the atomic scale, aside from "feeling" it, as someone who actually "comic book" studies it but that in no way stops her from performing the feats or branching off into separate fields by simply trying it. Of course, flexing that "weather muscle" will have different effects depending on where she is, which ties into... her powers working differently depending on where she is, space, Jupiter, that alien planet. The Trion dimension was completely different, everyone's powers were action differently, even Storm as seen with her "wtf?" faces in reaction to her own powers.
What I've been saying is if she could cut back on the "nature" part she'd be far more powerful. Why make a hurricane the size of a hemisphere? ...I mean really, why? If there was a valid reason for that, that's cool, but otherwise it's a waste. Imagine that energy focused into a small beam. Or directly applying it in the form of telekinesis. Sure, it's not as pretty, but it's efficient. It'd also help if she got over that pesky habit of burning herself out from large amounts of energy.
But it doesn't seem like she can. She's done a little work on manipulating electronics hasn't she? But it doesn't matter so much. That is what make Storm Storm isn't it?
Uhh, Storm's powers are psionic and Magneto uses Magnetic fields.
Storm obviously has the most power and potential.
Anways, if that's the best you've got, I can accept it.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Storm hater
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Truth is an offense, I see.I do have a clue about on thing, I know that you're a Storm hater and have been for some 2 years now.✅ Even if you did respond, it would really mean very little to nothing to me anyway just off the strength of that.✅
Why are you even still a mod and how did you become one in the first place is what I'm clueless of. 🙄
i really want you to get banned, but then again i dont, because sometimes i get a big laugh at what you say and other times im just pissed at how stupid you are.
Superman can stop time with respect to Storm, Iceman, and Magneto. Thus Iceman gets thrown into the sun, Magneto gets flung into the sun where he would at least suffucate trying to get back to Earth (if he even survives the sun that is). Storm just gets killed. Remember when time is stopped no amount of precog is going to save you. You know why? Because she can't move. She's just a frozen duck in time.
Let me guess. You're going to ask how can Superman stop time with respect to those, right? Well if he can then do you believe he can beat the team easily? If you answer yes then I will prove to you how. But you must answer yes first.
Originally posted by Doctor-AlvisBut since it's out there I might as well clarify.
Storm seems completely wired to doing "nature" feats. Tornadoes, lightning, things regarding weather. Yes, you'd have to go through the basic forces of physics but... it's like, in fact very similar to, the way human smile. It takes contracting X amount of muscles to do it. How's it work? Crap if I know, but we can naturally do it, it's coded in there. Storm's upbringing and natural ties to nature interweaves the two. So being able to coordinate a hurricane would come as easily a regular person could clench a fist or walk on two legs. It's pretty round about. Many energy welding characters seem to be like this. Just a mental block or two from being a flat out Silver Surfer.
This ties in with the numerous references to keeping herself in check because just as a person may physically lash about their fists or legs when they get out of control, the same will happen with the weather with Storm.
I really don't think she's that aware of how her feats occur down to the atomic scale, aside from "feeling" it, as someone who actually "comic book" studies it but that in no way stops her from performing the feats or branching off into separate fields by simply trying it. Of course, flexing that "weather muscle" will have different effects depending on where she is, which ties into... her powers working differently depending on where she is, space, Jupiter, that alien planet. The Trion dimension was completely different, everyone's powers were action differently, even Storm as seen with her "wtf?" faces in reaction to her own powers.
What I've been saying is if she could cut back on the "nature" part she'd be far more powerful. Why make a hurricane the size of a hemisphere? ...I mean really, why? If there was a valid reason for that, that's cool, but otherwise it's a waste. Imagine that energy focused into a small beam. Or directly applying it in the form of telekinesis. Sure, it's not as pretty, but it's efficient. It'd also help if she got over that pesky habit of burning herself out from large amounts of energy.
But it doesn't seem like she can. She's done a little work on manipulating electronics hasn't she? But it doesn't matter so much. That is what make Storm Storm isn't it?
Almost every energy manipulating power is psionic. Magneto psionically manipulates magnetism. Iceman psionically manipulates kinetic energy in such a moron way that he can only make things cold. Dazzler psionically manipulates light... or was it sound? Nobody cares about Dazzler anyway.
You always have to sneak something in don't you? Storm can't be more powerful. She's a woman and woman are teh st00pid n w\33k.
I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of you being condescending.
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Thanx for your analysis.
And I think she has concentrated the full power of a Storm into a single blast.
And you are correct in that she is just a mental block away from being a Silver Surfer. Hell , even considerably more powerful. This is confirmed by CC's response to my question about if she actually harnessed the composite energy of those millions of stars. He said yes, she did, but she was much younger and had no conception of her limitations so she just went balls-to-the wall and did it. Sp in essence, it doesn't matter how "far" the stars were because limitation was not apart of her reality at that time.
Theres also the hint of a mystical element as well as apart of her powers.
Storm is infact aware of what she's doing on that atomic level. She can see electrons and energy patterns behind the weather and see matter as energy(E=MC^2).
Storm's powers being weather-based simply means, in my interpretation, just an expression of who/what she was initially created to be. I think it is true that she was meant to be that kinda "goddess" character and the main expression of "God" as we know and encounter everyday and in mythology is "weather" , the elements etc. which encompass all things, not just being good at just ONE thing.
Essentially, she "is" a Magneto an Iceman, a hydrokenetic, aerokenetic and then some.
Magneto has control over infrared radiation but not convection.
Iceman can control heat but not electricity.
Storm can do both of what they do, to a good degree. The EM spectrum is merely different frequencies of the same thing. Storm has already shown that she can use Gamma radiation(the highest energy part of the spectrum) to enhance her powers. That's how she made that Cosmic greenhouse thing.
I mean, what does it really take to create magnetism anyway?? Electric current moving a certain way. Woopty ****in doo. 🙄
If you notce, most of Magneto's feats that are supposedly non-metal, atomic control are essentially still displays of magnetism on ferrous material.
Blood=metal
those plastic and CERAMIC missiles= metal (missiles are made with ceramics and ferrites).
Granted, it would take a very strong magentic field, but still.
It would be nothing for her.
Iceman: Freeze something, you take the heat away.
Wind: uneven heating of earth's surface leads to pressure differnetials and some other stuff.
Please. 🙄
If Storm wanted to heat a cup of joe, she should be able to make it boiling hot.
It's nothing, really.
I don't think she should be able to control gravity since there is no logical reason why. 😕
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Thanx for your analysis.And I think she has concentrated the full power of a Storm into a single blast.
And you are correct in that she is just a mental block away from being a Silver Surfer. Hell , even considerably more powerful. This is confirmed by CC's response to my question about if she actually harnessed the composite energy of those millions of stars. He said yes, she did, but she was much younger and had no conception of her limitations so she just went balls-to-the wall and did it. Sp in essence, it doesn't matter how "far" the stars were because limitation was not apart of her reality at that time.
Theres also the hint of a mystical element as well as apart of her powers.
Storm is infact aware of what she's doing on that atomic level. She can see electrons and energy patterns behind the weather and see matter as energy(E=MC^2).
Storm's powers being weather-based simply means, in my interpretation, just an expression of who/what she was initially created to be. I think it is true that she was meant to be that kinda "goddess" character and the main expression of "God" as we know and encounter everyday and in mythology is "weather" , the elements etc. which encompass all things, not just being good at just ONE thing.
Essentially, she "is" a Magneto an Iceman, a hydrokenetic, aerokenetic and then some.
Magneto has control over infrared radiation but not convection.
Iceman can control heat but not electricity.
Storm can do both of what they do, to a good degree. The EM spectrum is merely different frequencies of the same thing. Storm has already shown that she can use Gamma radiation(the highest energy part of the spectrum) to enhance her powers. That's how she made that Cosmic greenhouse thing.
I mean, what does it really take to create magnetism anyway?? Electric current moving a certain way. Woopty ****in doo. 🙄
If you notce, most of Magneto's feats that are supposedly non-metal, atomic control are essentially still displays of magnetism on ferrous material.
Blood=metal
those plastic and CERAMIC missiles= metal (missiles are made with ceramics and ferrites).Granted, it would take a very strong magentic field, but still.
It would be nothing for her.
Iceman: Freeze something, you take the heat away.
Wind: uneven heating of earth's surface leads to pressure differnetials and some other stuff.
Please. 🙄
If Storm wanted to heat a cup of joe, she should be able to make it boiling hot.
It's nothing, really.
I don't think she should be able to control gravity since there is no logical reason why. 😕
Scans?