cannot wait 😄
cannot wait 😄
Although that's an old video, it's still pretty good.
Originally posted by SmashBro
Good find. Wish they could have done more moves but at least she still seem to play good.And it sure seem like they put alot of detail on her legs.
Well, you can't blame them since she likes to show them off while doing her attacks.
I'd have rather seen one of the rival schools cast(Tiffany, Natsu, Akira, Kyosuke, Roy, Batsu, Bowman) than Sakura. Never liked her. Points to an unhealthy obsession w/schoolgirls Japanese people seem to have. Ah well. She apparently has a large fanbase.
~Sado
In case anyone is interested, here is the Tier List Table that came from Japan at this point for Street Fighter IV, however before I go further on, I would like to state that even the players here in the US on the majority feel that this is also very close to what they feel the tier list should be like as well, with there overall experience, so overall, this Tier List is quite accurate thus far.
1 - Sagat
2 - Vega (Dictator)
2 - Ryu
2 - Zangief
4 - Blanka
6 - Rufus
6 - Akuma
8 - M.Bison (Boxer)
9 - Chun Li
10 - Ken
11 - Abel
12 - Dhalsim
12 - Guile
14 - C.Viper
15 - Honda
16 - El Fuerte
17 - Balrog (Claw)
Sagat being #1 comes as an absolute no-shocker, he was incredibly powerful when I was playing my brother who was using Sagat, and it comes as no surprise to me. Sagat has very powerful linkable options to his Super/Ultra, and his Tiger Knee is incredibly powerful as well, on crouching it seems safe at the last hit, not to mention his projectiles are incredibly fast.
Then you add the fact that Sagat has great reach, very strong damage potential, and basically no glaring weaknesses, he's arguably #1. I felt he was #1 when I started playing SF:IV, so again, not a surprise. On another note, although he's so far the strongest, he's not over the top super powerful.
On Dictator, I have no clue on what makes him good, I'm guessing Ex-Scissor Kicks, I've been hearing he's got super good BnB combos, and all, but I don't know much about him, however I just keep hearing that's he's very strong.
My boy Ryu on the other hand, hahahaha, I'm actually shocked he's #3, I thought he was probably #5 in SF:IV, however I'm not really surprised with him either. Ryu has no glaring weaknesses just like Sagat, but just doesn't have as fast of a fireball, no Tiger Knee, slightly less stamina then Sagat (I think?), and does slightly less damage.
Ryu has 3 super powerful options to link into his Super/Ultra which is a huge boost in his department, not to mention he has his powerful regular pokes, strong projectile game, along with his strong footsie game. These sort of similarities are almost a memory of his SFII counterpart who had basically the same exact similarities in gameplay.
This is what has always made Ryu strong, and if you've noticed, that any SF game in which Ryu has to be played more aggressively, he isn't that good, but to where he can space, zone, poke, and play a footsie game, he's either very solid, or just down right strong.
Zangief at one point was considered #1, however, after more people have become accustomed to his gameplay and also that the first installment of SF:IV damage was much greater making Zangief a complete monster. However, even now, I am pleased to see that he's #4, we haven't Zangief being a true contender since the Hyper Fighting Days, so this is good.
Blanka where he's at comes as no surprise either, electricity, blanka roll, ex-rolls, excellent pokes, very good jump in's. He's got all of the goods that makes him very effective, so I'm not surprised at the least.
So far, SF:IV just might possibly exceed even my expectations, so I'm really looking forward to this when it finally hits console so I can play it more, since it has been quite sometime since I touched this game at the arcades.
Originally posted by Yoshi Paradise
To be honest, I don't pay attention to tier lists. Any character can be deadly if you know how to use him/her.
Believe me Yoshi, as someone who has had well over a 15 years of competitive experience, I will tell you this, and that is that Tier List are very, very real.
Sure, some "insert players name" may play well with a very bad character, however even they will tell you that "insert bad character" is not as good as "insert good character".
Some characters just simply have more tools then others, for instance, Sagat in SF:IV. At this point in the game, nobody can find a glaring weakness in Sagat's gameplay. He just doesn't have any real big distinct handicaps in his gameplay, while he has so many good qualities.
You look at someone like Claw, he doesn't deal a whole lot of damage, doesn't have really good damage options as the rest of the characters, however he is still competitive, even though he's low in the tier listing, this is simply due to the fact that nobody is really underpowered and also that no one is really overpowered. Sagat may be #1 at this point, however he doesn't control this game with an iron fist.
A Tier List only really factors in as Satsujin says, when you get solid players up against one another, you'll start to see that certain characters just simply have better and more effecient options then other certain characters. Obviously if your not taking it serious, then the Tier List doesn't really matter, but in tournament or just simply competitive play, it's very visible by the results shown.
Also, yes Fuuma, this is a tier list of the SF:IV cast in game, not storyline wise, if it was storyline wise, then Gouki would be above everyone within that cast.
Here is the Tier List compiled again, however this time, with the names switched to the known American Version, so M. Bison is no longer Boxer, but Dictator and Claw is now Vega, etc, etc, plus it's in english instead of japanese so it will make reading it far less of a headache.
Remember guys, the Tier List will most likely change, as well as all tier list, usually you don't see a solid tier concrete tier list until a long while down the road. So expect characters to move up or down depending upon what will be discovered for characters and match ups on the long run.
http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2008/oct/17/street-fighter-4-tiers-character-rankings/
Originally posted by Man of Violence
Tier list are BS, at least that one is. How the hell is Ken WAAAAYYYY lower than Ryu?! Ken is ALWAYS better than Ryu. And really, Ryu NO# 2? Ryu aint that damn good. This dudes gotta have some new moves or somthin. Ryu aint never been that good.
Let me break down the Street Fighter Games in which either Ryu was better or Ken was.
SFII:WW - Tie : Both where trashy, crappy slow Hadouken, Shoryuken doesn't knock down unless as an AA, Hurricane kick was unsafe even on block?!
SFII:CE - Ryu : Faster Hadouken (11-39 frames in comparison to Ken's at 14-39 frames) so it allowed him better zoning, trapping, etc, etc. Not to mention Ryu had overall better match ups across the board. Ken was incredibly powerful in CE, however he couldn't space or trap as well as Ryu, which is why he struggled more against other characters then Ryu did.
SFII:HF - Ryu : This is where Ryu was #1 on the Tier Listing, and Ken was #5 in here, he is basically the same as his CE counterpart, it's just that the higher speed help improve his gameplay even more.
SSFII - Tie : Both where ranked head and shoulders the same to one another here.
SSFIIT - Ryu : Faster Hadouken, better traps, better spacing, jumping mp, and one of the Top 5 best Supers in the game. Ken was Middle Tier here.
SFA1 - Ken : Ken edged Ryu out just slightly, I forgot the reasons why Ken was slightly better, however both of them where Top or near Top, so it really didn't matter a whole lot.
SFA2 - Ken : Now this is where you can significantly tell that Ken is much better then Ryu, even though both where Top-Tier. Ken was arguably #1 or #2 in here, while Ryu was around #4. Ken had a super long range AC, and most importantly one of the most damaging CC's in the game.
SFA3 - Ryu : Ken was middle-tier in here, and Ryu was very, very strong with V-Ism in tact. Just watch vids of Valle with Ryu, or Daigo with Ryu and you'll get an idea of how beastly V-Ism Ryu really was.
SFIII - Tie : Both where solid, Ryu had some crazy 100% damaging combos and Shinshoryuken was super manly in here, and Ken had his crazy 2-stock Shinryuken.
SFIII:2I - Ryu : Hands down, Ryu was one of the best in here, overall the 5th best character in the game, 2-Stock Denjin, with the bar being only large as Ken's Shippu-Jinrai Bar, better SA1, much better beefy combos, more Ex-Options due to 2-stock, and also with 2-stock Denjin, he could potentialy win one round if that connects, which happens alot.
Ken was almost identical to his 3S counterpart in here, however with way better hit confirms, only missing a few things, such as Kara-Shoryu, s.fk on hit or block is punishable (bad, bad) and cross up mk isn't as beefy, and that's really it.
SFIII:3S - Ken : I'm sure everyone knows that Ken is better then Ryu here, so I wont explain it all that much, he is like his 2I counterpart, but just "slightly" improved.
So if we look at it all this is the outcome...
Tie - 3 Ken - 4 Ryu - 5
So yes, Ryu edges out Ken overall so far, and if you include the VS games like CvS1, CvS2, XvSF, MSHvSF, MvC2. Then it would be even more drastic as it would be...
Ken - 6 and Ryu - 8.
So overall, Ryu has been the better character, wether you like to believe it or not, Tiers are again very real. You don't see Sean players winning 3S tournametns do you? How many Bowsers did we see winning tournametns during SSBM in comparison to Foxes?
YunSung being as good as Xianghua during SC2? Definitely not. Again, Tier List aren't random, or not accidental, the reason why Ryu is better then Ken in SF:IV is because Ryu has better options then Ken. In fact Ryu is one of the few characters who has an 3 different excellent options of landing his Super/Ultra...Ken does not, this coupled with the fact Ryu has a better projectile, great footsies, great pokes, and better damage options.
I'm not surprised he's better at this point.