Instant Transmission where?
Cause to travel that far Goku would need to put his fingertips to his head, and Goku would have no place to go, his planet is gone...
Or Pyron can just bombard Goku with a Cosmic Disruption, which at Pyron's full power would be stronger, and at his full size it would be the equivolent of many stronger than planet destroying teleporting blasts.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Instant Transmission where?Cause to travel that far Goku would need to put his fingertips to his head, and Goku would have no place to go, his planet is gone...
Or Pyron can just bombard Goku with a Cosmic Disruption, which at Pyron's full power would be stronger, and at his full size it would be the equivolent of many stronger than planet destroying teleporting blasts.
That's enough time to touch Pyron and kick him in the HFIL. Goku wins!
For D-J and E.M.:
Goku can win. He has plenty of techniques that he can use. There are plenty of references to go to that make Goku competition for Pyron. He has dealt with energy absorbers, He has dealt with planet-busters out the yin yang. He can move at light speed and he too can bust planets if he wanted to, but because he loves life he chooses not and for the fact that he values life it makes him stronger and takes him to different levels of power. Not only did he defeat them but he has shown compassion on his enemies. Maybe Pyron can blow up the planet via growing his size, Goku's been against that type too. Goku has been against enemies that were stronger than he was before and has overcome them.
Also you seem to depend on Pyron's size as a crutch. You've only told me that it was inside the Comic. That's the only place he's use that technique, we don't see that anywhere else. Not the animated series or the anime. You'd think with his power he'd cease the oppportunity but whether it be the series or anime he has been overcame by his adveraries and mind you they were weaker than Goku.
Originally posted by DolX1He has never dealt with anyone with absorption and manipulation of matter and energy on a level like Pyron's.
For D-J and E.M.:Goku can win. He has plenty of techniques that he can use. There are plenty of references to go to that make Goku competition for Pyron. He has dealt with energy absorbers, He has dealt with planet-busters out the yin yang. He can move at light speed and he too can bust planets if he wanted to, but because he loves life he chooses not and for the fact that he values life it makes him stronger and takes him to different levels of power. Not only did he defeat them but he has shown compassion on his enemies. Maybe Pyron can blow up the planet via growing his size, Goku's been against that type too. Goku has been against enemies that were stronger than he was before and has overcome them.
He could not stop a blast from Buu that at best could destroy the planet 10 times over.
Goku can't move at lightspeed, that is unfounded bullshit. Even Mortal Pyron can fly faster than Goku.
So being compassionate is a feat? Lol.
Pyron can destroy planets by eating them.
Originally posted by DolX1Actually, there is hardly any feats of Pyron on wikipedia.
You tell to stop using wikipedia as a crutch, I assure you that the stuff you're talking about with Pyron is in there too. I have other sources for Goku besides wikipedia. Wikipedia is a good source however Im not limited to it and Ive never been limited to wikipedia.
No it is not, anyone can edit wikipedia, and the DBZ wikia even states that it is unlikely Goku can fly at lightspeed, so if you wanna use wiki...Yeah.
Originally posted by DolX1No, his size is a completely usable advantage, and he has shown the ability to make his face as large as the planet Earth's in the OVA, and in the game series he has shown to be able to grow to huge sizes as well.
Also you seem to depend on Pyron's size as a crutch. You've only told me that it was inside the Comic. That's the only place he's use that technique, we don't see that anywhere else. Not the animated series or the anime. You'd think with his power he'd cease the oppportunity but whether it be the series or anime he has been overcame by his adveraries and mind you they were weaker than Goku.
Animated series is bullshit and f@ggotry, don't you dare bring it up.
In canon, Pyron has only lost after weakening his own power, full power Pyron has never been overcome.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Instant Transmission where?Cause to travel that far Goku would need to put his fingertips to his head, and Goku would have no place to go, his planet is gone...
Or Pyron can just bombard Goku with a Cosmic Disruption, which at Pyron's full power would be stronger, and at his full size it would be the equivolent of many stronger than planet destroying teleporting blasts.
IT is far faster than light and Goku doesn't have to put his fingers on his head, and he doesn't have to wait to use it either. Even in the anime occasionally he used it instantly and without the fingers. as far as Buu's blast he threw it casually and while goku and vegeta were in mid speech he took them by total surprise, it was so big they couldn't deflect it in time.
Originally posted by TheBadguyTo bad IT has nothing to do with battle speed. And yea..to get anywhere not in the immediate area he does need to concentrate and find a place. Hence why he couldn't when Buu destroyed everything.
IT is far faster than light and Goku doesn't have to put his fingers on his head, and he doesn't have to wait to use it either. Even in the anime occasionally he used it instantly and without the fingers. as far as Buu's blast he threw it casually and while goku and vegeta were in mid speech he took them by total surprise, it was so big they couldn't deflect it in time.
And yea by real surprise. He charged it up...They stared at it. Then Gokou tried to make a run for it because it was more powerful than they could block. And it's not like it doesn't take a few seconds to go to ssj2 and ssj3. Which they had since they were able to grab Dende, and Mr. Satan. Even Kaioshin and Elder Kaioshin were able to have a small chat before going to save Gokou and them.
Originally posted by Kento
To bad IT has nothing to do with battle speed. And yea..to get anywhere not in the immediate area he does need to concentrate and find a place. Hence why he couldn't when Buu destroyed everything.And yea by real surprise. He charged it up...They stared at it. Then Gokou tried to make a run for it because it was more powerful than they could block. And it's not like it doesn't take a few seconds to go to ssj2 and ssj3. Which they had since they were able to grab Dende, and Mr. Satan. Even Kaioshin and Elder Kaioshin were able to have a small chat before going to save Gokou and them.
Apparently you have some tree trunk stuck in your ass. Who the hell said anything about combat speed or travel speed? I didn't take a side in who wins this fight, I responded specifically to a statement saying he can't MOVE that way period. I see you are quick to point out combat and travel speed aren't the same when it helps your argument.
back to the subject
Everything I said was backed by the manga. The anime slows down everything, Goku and Freeza fight for like a week and only 5 minutes go by. and even in the anime Goku used IT instantly without his hands to get from the battlefield to Kami's place so you are wrong again on it only working for 'immediate areas'. he only needed to use his fingers for the buu blast because he was going all the way to the Kai planet.
Originally posted by TheBadguyTo go a relatively far distance, Goku has to place his fingers on his head. He can't go far without it.
IT is far faster than light and Goku doesn't have to put his fingers on his head, and he doesn't have to wait to use it either. Even in the anime occasionally he used it instantly and without the fingers. as far as Buu's blast he threw it casually and while goku and vegeta were in mid speech he took them by total surprise, it was so big they couldn't deflect it in time.