Superman vs Silver surfer

Started by batdude123387 pages

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
So, why exactly didn't the writer say it in those little boxes?

So, does this also mean, that when a human, or just some guy says something, that it's a fact?

This wasn't some Joe schmo off the streets saying something.

Besides, Joe Casey (the author of that story) is a well-known Superman fanboy. He thinks Clark is the most powerful being in the universe, so obviously his writing would reflect as much.

It's not exactly a stretch of the imagination to say that it was the writer's intent.

Originally posted by batdude123
Horrible example.

There's a huge difference between saying something generalized and affectionate vs. something as specific as "you just prevented an omniversal blast".

I hope you knew the difference.

Anyway, that was assy writing at it's finest.

Fair enough, I knew it wasn't a good example, but I have a better one.

How about something less generalized, and less affectionate?

How about something even MORE specific than "Superman saved the omniverse."

How about "He stalemated Galactus."

How about that sentence coming from someone a little more credible than some no-name earth general?

Originally posted by Soljer
Fair enough, I knew it wasn't a good example, but I have a better one.

How about something less generalized, and less affectionate?

How about something even MORE specific than "Superman saved the omniverse."

How about "He stalemated Galactus."

How about that sentence coming from someone a little more credible than some no-name earth general?

You mean besides the fact that it wasn't preformed on-panel... 😄

We have no way of knowing exactly how he stalemated him (or if he actually DID) because it was not on-panel.

So actually, at this point, if I had to pick a person to believe... I'd choose the general because we actually saw Supes do it.

PS: I'm not trying to condone the feat at all.

I know you're not trying to condone the feat, but tell me, what credibility does the general have? Any? At all?

I wouldn't have a problem with Superman saving the omniverse if....say....the spectre came on panel and congratulated superman on his feat.

But some random general? He has no credibility. No authority.

At least Spiderman would know who galactus is, and apparently that Sentry fought him to a standstill.

Here I've got one. Here's a random soldier saying that Gamora(pre upgrade) has Iron Man level strength...

Now should we take that statement at face value despite any real supporting evidence?

Superman is a deuche.

Sentry is a deuche

all characters starting with S are deuches.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Superman is a deuche.

Sentry is a deuche

all characters starting with S are deuches.

Don't forget the letter M🙂

Yes,M is a deuche.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Yes,M is a deuche.

As in Martian Manhunter, I agree🙂

he can shapeshift into a swan though.

Supes is stuck as a deuche.....

same as Sentry.....

Originally posted by Martian_mind
he can shapeshift into a swan though.

Supes is stuck as a deuche.....

same as Sentry.....

Well I can certainly concede that point, well said!

Not so my red, yellow and blue adorned friend...

I just laughed at the statement that you made of Dominus being multiversal, when it mostly came across as a major mindfukk type of arc.

I also laughed at Superman punching a hole in Surfer, when it's highly unlikely anything of the sort would happen in a confrontation.
Who has he punched a hole in that wasn't a probe, and had elite durability?
You probably base this hope off the fact that Thanos beats down Surfer, and Thor has done it as well. Superman isn't Thanos, and he doesn't wield a magical plot device hammer either.

The Darkseid equaling Thanos only when he jobs is golden, since that's really not true.
Darkseid hasn't been Odin level for a very long time, and if he's not Odin level, there's a big chance he sits at Thanos level, nah mean?

I laughed at the Superman breaking down barriers of time and space bit, mostly because it reminds me of the nickname Punchy McPuncherson.
And because i'v read the story, but i also remember any alternate/future reality story rule where if two versions of the same character ever meet, it tends to disrupt, if not outright destroy the continuum of time and space.

And the biggest lol, was directed merely at the statement you made of the antisun mageddon feat, which at the level it was at was only solar system level, iirc.
Plus the fact that only the bomb in its original form was galactic level, and the fact that he merely absorbed the power source, not the resulting galactic explosion.
Pretty soon, the mageddon feat is gonna reside up there with Superman Prime lore of beating up Lucifer, and taking Lois's soul back from him huh?

Just laughing at the somewhat misleading statements your original post made.

And DC gets more money from me than Marvel ever has.

I can't help it if i just don't see Superman as beating Surfer for the majority.

Originally posted by UniOmni

I laughed at the Superman breaking down barriers of time and space bit, mostly because it reminds me of the nickname Punchy McPuncherson.
And because i'v read the story, but i also remember any alternate/future reality story rule where if two versions of the same character ever meet, it tends to disrupt, if not outright destroy the continuum of time and space.
Sorry buddy, but Superman has run into alternate versions of himself many times without such an event happening. And nothing happening like happens during the battle between Earth 1 and Earth 2 Superman...The Supermen met in the original Crisis... What the hell do you think Ultraman is?

Seems to me youre making shit up.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Odin level, there's a big chance he sits at Thanos level, nah mean?
Well, if you consider Darkseid to be Thanos level, and Superman smashes up Darkseid, and Thanos smashes up Surfer.... what conclusion does this lead you to?

Superman>Darkseid=Thanos>Surfer?

Originally posted by Juntai
Well, if you consider Darkseid to be Thanos level, and Superman smashes up Darkseid, and Thanos smashes up Surfer.... what conclusion does this lead you to?

Superman>Darkseid=Thanos>Surfer?


Good point. Looks like Omni just admitted that Superman owns Surfer just like Thanos does. Ouch.

Has anyone really explained how Superman would survive being Transmuted ? 🙂

Nah didn't think so

Surfer wins ! 🙂

Originally posted by Soljer
I know you're not trying to condone the feat, but tell me, what credibility does the general have? Any? At all?

I wouldn't have a problem with Superman saving the omniverse if....say....the spectre came on panel and congratulated superman on his feat.

But some random general? He has no credibility. No authority.

At least Spiderman would know who galactus is, and apparently that Sentry fought him to a standstill.

The feat in and of itself is a Joe Casey fanboy wanking fest. The General "has authority" on the subject because of Casey's belief that Superman can do anything and everything.

No credibility? He gave an exact reason as to why his actions saved the omniverse. Instruments were there calculating all that shit. It's not something he pulled out of his ass.

Saying this feat has no credibility is just a wish to deface something totally rediculous, which I understand completely. However, you're reaching... BIG time.

Originally posted by -a-m-a-n again
Has anyone really explained how Superman would survive being Transmuted ? 🙂

Nah didn't think so

Surfer wins ! 🙂

Ask Blaze & others.
Superman can will off transmutation.

kthnx.

Move along.

Originally posted by -a-m-a-n again
Has anyone really explained how Superman would survive being Transmuted ? 🙂

Nah didn't think so

Surfer wins ! 🙂


He's immune to transmutation.

Originally posted by UniOmni
And the biggest lol, was directed merely at the statement you made of the antisun mageddon feat, which at the level it was at was only solar system level, iirc.
Plus the fact that only the bomb in its original form was galactic level, and the fact that he merely absorbed the power source, not the resulting galactic explosion.
Pretty soon, the mageddon feat is gonna reside up there with Superman Prime lore of beating up Lucifer, and taking Lois's soul back from him huh?

It wasn't solar system level. It had enough power to blow up half a galaxy. Even though it didn't have the power to blow up multiple galaxies, that's still a SHIT load more energy projection than Surfer could ever conjure up.