Originally posted by Validus
When has Wonder Woman physically stalemated Superman? The one time she beat him was because she caught him in the lasso.And when has CM fought DS one on one?
She fought him all out, and acquited herself well, even if he wasn't seeing her.
And he punched her all out in front of the sun, where he gains a significant power increase.
And CM never fought Darkseid to my recollection. Different circles.
All i'm saying, is that Superman has beaten Darkseid 3 times, one with a powerup, and the first time straight up.
The closest Thor ever came to beating Thanos was when he had the powergem, and he still didn't ko the guy.
C'mon!
Superman straight up beats on Darkseid over in DC, while his peer in Marvel with a powerup doesn't seal the deal.
How does that not scream Thanos is physically more capable than Darkseid?
Originally posted by UniOmni
She fought him all out, and acquited herself well, even if he wasn't seeing her.And he punched her all out in front of the sun, where he gains a significant power increase.
And CM never fought Darkseid to my recollection. Different circles.
All i'm saying, is that Superman has beaten Darkseid 3 times, one with a powerup, and the first time straight up.
The closest Thor ever came to beating Thanos was when he had the powergem, and he still didn't ko the guy.
C'mon!
Superman straight up beats on Darkseid over in DC, while his peer in Marvel with a powerup doesn't seal the deal.
How does that not scream Thanos is physically more capable than Darkseid?
The common point for Superman is that he beats DS but then stalemates CM but until CM fights DS, that can't be used to say DS is written down to Superman and not the other way around.
As far as WW goes, you can throw out the Sun to Earth punch but then look at the Superman #211 fight. Same portrayal. They aren't on the same level.
Originally posted by Validus
Was that aimed at him or me, because I don't really see its current relevance ? 🙂
Or I suppose its one of you random posts that doesn't take into account what the poster is addressing ?
Originally posted by Validus
So we all have to take into account what every poster was addressing before making a post? No. Not really.
Originally posted by Validus
The Power Gem showing is a durability one for Thanos and I don't think anyone would say DS is more durable than Thanos. My memory might be fuzzy on this but didn't Thor have the upperhand in the entire PG fight?The common point for Superman is that he beats DS but then stalemates CM but until CM fights DS, that can't be used to say DS is written down to Superman and not the other way around.
As far as WW goes, you can throw out the Sun to Earth punch but then look at the Superman #211 fight. Same portrayal. They aren't on the same level.
Yeah but there is little to no evidence to suggest that Darksied is that far above Wonder Woman in the strength department. 🙂
Originally posted by Soleran
I have looked over the past 10 pages and see his physicall strength challenged minmally, maybe you are defending someing I am not seeing. Which is why I see a WW's tiara overcomining him.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Not so my red, yellow and blue adorned friend...I just laughed at the statement that you made of Dominus being multiversal, when it mostly came across as a major mindfukk type of arc.
I also laughed at Superman punching a hole in Surfer, when it's highly unlikely anything of the sort would happen in a confrontation.
Who has he punched a hole in that wasn't a probe, and had elite durability?
You probably base this hope off the fact that Thanos beats down Surfer, and Thor has done it as well. Superman isn't Thanos, and he doesn't wield a magical plot device hammer either.The Darkseid equaling Thanos only when he jobs is golden, since that's really not true.
Darkseid hasn't been Odin level for a very long time, and if he's not Odin level, there's a big chance he sits at Thanos level, nah mean?I laughed at the Superman breaking down barriers of time and space bit, mostly because it reminds me of the nickname Punchy McPuncherson.
And because i'v read the story, but i also remember any alternate/future reality story rule where if two versions of the same character ever meet, it tends to disrupt, if not outright destroy the continuum of time and space.And the biggest lol, was directed merely at the statement you made of the antisun mageddon feat, which at the level it was at was only solar system level, iirc.
Plus the fact that only the bomb in its original form was galactic level, and the fact that he merely absorbed the power source, not the resulting galactic explosion.
Pretty soon, the mageddon feat is gonna reside up there with Superman Prime lore of beating up Lucifer, and taking Lois's soul back from him huh?Just laughing at the somewhat misleading statements your original post made.
And DC gets more money from me than Marvel ever has.
I can't help it if i just don't see Superman as beating Surfer for the majority.
I'm laughing at your whole post there you naked silver man loving person you.
Kismet stated Dominus was multiversal. He created his own realities..hmmm.
As for the barrier breaking thing..I suggest you stop watching the back to the future reruns and read some comics.... last I remember quite a few characters met their alternate selves and fought and the barriers of time/space did NOT break.
As for the bomb, well, galactic level>>>>>>>>>solar system level>>>>>>standard sun. Good enough for me...
"Darkseid hasn't been Odin level for a very long time, and if he's not Odin level, there's a big chance he sits at Thanos level, nah mean?"
DS sits at Thanos level and yet Superman has beaten him.
Thanos whoops Surfer like nobody's business..so you basically defeated your own argument.
Originally posted by Validus
The Power Gem showing is a durability one for Thanos and I don't think anyone would say DS is more durable than Thanos. My memory might be fuzzy on this but didn't Thor have the upperhand in the entire PG fight?The common point for Superman is that he beats DS but then stalemates CM but until CM fights DS, that can't be used to say DS is written down to Superman and not the other way around.
As far as WW goes, you can throw out the Sun to Earth punch but then look at the Superman #211 fight. Same portrayal. They aren't on the same level.
Superman 211?
Is that the For Tomorrow arc?
Because she was clearly in his ballpark for strength, given the fact that she knocked him out the Fortress in one blow.
He was faster than her, and is clearly more durable than her as well.
Superman and Wonderwoman is pretty much Thor and Namor.
One is clearly more powerful, but a fight can be made of it.
And Thor did have the upperhand.
But the fact that Thanos took on someone amped with the PG, and didn't outright lose, says a whole lot.