Superman vs Silver surfer

Started by psycho gundam387 pages

Originally posted by Priest
I wonder how would Superman dodge a omnidirectional blast of light like this:
http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurfer198801612wq7.jpg
http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurfer198801613wp4.jpg
He just need to adjust the frequency to RedSun, or Knite radiation like so
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/998/galactusthedevourer518no4.jpg
🙂
that's the nail in the coffin.
surfer wins with ease in a horrific "told ya so" own fest.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
that's the nail in the coffin.
surfer wins with ease in a horrific "told ya so" own fest.

LMAO, wat does this prove....geez nice reaching folks.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
LMAO, wat does this prove

More than you EVER have...

how foolish, read what he said to kallark.

we've been saying he could do that since day one and a direct quote from the guy himself seals the deal.

though norrin doesn't need to resort to such an easy tactic, it's entirely possible to pull that off at the start of the match.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
how foolish, read what he said to kallark.

we've been saying he could do that since day one and a direct quote from the guy himself seals the deal.

though norrin doesn't need to resort to such an easy tactic, it's entirely possible to pull that off at the start of the match.

Why do u bother wit dat guy? Someone who thinks SS has a weaknes to magic. 😱

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Why do u bother wit dat guy? Someone who thinks SS has a weaknes to magic. 😱

Outright weakness, no. But he IS more vulnerable to magical attacks than non magical ones. That's why Thor can hurt him with his hammer but Wonder Man can't put him down for the count with repeated punches(even when Surfer's Power Cosmic is almost completely spent) despite the fact that his punches have been portrayed as hitting almost as hard since his introduction. But then again, Supes's doesn't have a magical hammer now does he 😖hifty: ...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Outright weakness, no. But he IS more vulnerable to magical attacks than non magical ones. That's why Thor can hurt him with his hammer but Wonder Man can't put him down for the count with repeated punches(even when Surfer's Power Cosmic is almost completely spent) despite the fact that his punches have been portrayed as hitting almost as hard since his introduction. But then again, Supes's doesn't have a magical hammer now does he 😖hifty: ...

Yes i understand that( though i dont believe wondermans fist is comparable to thors hammer) . But magical attacks have that effect on most characters, and in this instance claiming that BA will beat SS due to SS "weakness" is just ridiculous. Heck supes has a confirmed magical weakness and most still dont consider that type of arguement valid.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Yes i understand that ( though i dont believe wondermans fist is comparable to thors hammer)

Seriously, it is. I didn't buy it for a long time either, but it's been confirmed by Baron Zemo, Cap, Black Panther, Arkon, and I don't even know who all else as well as being stated numerous times via narrative description. I don't know how it works exactly because Wonder Man's ionized body produces all kinds of crazy effects, but it's just about as well established as a fact can get. Wonderman's strength is shy of Thor's, but he hits almost as hard as Thor's hammer. He actually gave Thor a pretty good beating one time until Thor started unloading energy on him.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
But magical attacks have that effect on most characters, and in this instance claiming that BA will beat SS due to SS "weakness" is just ridiculous. Heck supes has a confirmed magical weakness and most still dont consider that type of arguement valid.

Oh I agree. Surfer doesn't have an outright weakness or Valkarie's sword wouldn't have bounced off of him and he wouldn't have shaken off a blast from Kanilla, but I could definitely see a lightning punch from BA or CM doing more damage to him that a punch from Supes.

Originally posted by Priest
I wonder how would Superman dodge a omnidirectional blast of light like this:
http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurfer198801612wq7.jpg
http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurfer198801613wp4.jpg

Why would he dodge something that would power him up like so iF it was regular sunlight? Superman performed a similar trick with light while training krypto btw.

Originally posted by Priest
He just need to adjust the frequency to RedSun, or Knite radiation like so
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/998/galactusthedevourer518no4.jpg
🙂

Surfer bluffing that he could beat Glads constitutes as evidence now? How many guys have told Surfer that they could kill him for various reasons? 🙂

Originally posted by darthgoober
Seriously, it is. I didn't buy it for a long time either, but it's been confirmed by Baron Zemo, Cap, Black Panther, Arkon, and I don't even know who all else as well as being stated numerous times via narrative description. I don't know how it works exactly because Wonder Man's ionized body produces all kinds of crazy effects, but it's just about as well established as a fact can get. Wonderman's strength is shy of Thor's, but he hits almost as hard as Thor's hammer. He actually gave Thor a pretty good beating one time until Thor started unloading energy on him.

Oh I agree. Surfer doesn't have an outright weakness or Valkarie's sword wouldn't have bounced off of him and he wouldn't have shaken off a blast from Kanilla, but I could definitely see a lightning punch from BA or CM doing more damage to him that a punch from Supes.

Well i think i will go do some research on Wonderman. Though in recent times he has been portrayed at far below what he was before.

Yeah, i agree that BA or CM wud be a better match for SS than superman.

Question. If Silver Surfer was able to draw a sun's energy to power himself up. Is the power cosmic another word for cosmic energy? As in star power? Could superman absorb the power cosmic like he did the anti-sun energies of mageddon?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Question. If Silver Surfer was able to draw a sun's energy to power himself up. Is the power cosmic another word for cosmic energy? As in star power? Could superman absorb the power cosmic like he did the anti-sun energies of mageddon?

Mm. I know its referred to as 'ambient cosmic energy' and that its force replaces the souls of the people imbued with its properties (which is why no one wields it the same way).

Maybe a sourcebook has more information on it...But 'cosmic energy' and sun radiation are two separate things.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Question. If Silver Surfer was able to draw a sun's energy to power himself up. Is the power cosmic another word for cosmic energy? As in star power? Could superman absorb the power cosmic like he did the anti-sun energies of mageddon?

NO WAY IN HELL. Silver surfer has been able to power himself using the energy of other beings,energy abosrbed from the ground, energy drawn from blackholes etc. He can power himself up using a variety of energy sources. Not to mention that he is a high end energy manipulator while superman is not even close.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
NO WAY IN HELL. Silver surfer has been able to power himself using the energy of other beings,energy abosrbed from the ground, energy drawn from blackholes etc. He can power himself up using a variety of energy sources. Not to mention that he is a high end energy manipulator while superman is not even close.

He's a high energy manipulator fine sure and all of that. But Superman absorbed Anti-Sun energy. which is a direct opposite of what powers him. Enough of it to destroy the galaxy.

^ not really. the fantastic four were altered by cosmic rays, the touch of galactus gives his herald's the ability to absorb energy from the universe. (norrin displayed that he can tap into crunch energies also)

Originally posted by Avlon
Surfer bluffing that he could beat Glads constitutes as evidence now? How many guys have told Surfer that they could kill him for various reasons? 🙂
nice try.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ not really. the fantastic four were altered by cosmic rays, the touch of galactus gives his herald's the ability to absorb energy from the universe. (norrin displayed that he can tap into crunch energies also)
He tapped into the crunch? And the crunch is universal level now? Surfer tapped all of it? how much did he tap? As far as I know, the tap was kryptonite to T and A, so exactly how much did surfer tap? that is what I thought. he didn't tap anything. He redirected it's energies. he didn't take it and absorb it into himself.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Well i think i will go do some research on Wonderman. Though in recent times he has been portrayed at far below what he was before.

Yeah, i agree that BA or CM wud be a better match for SS than superman.

SS isn't immune to "physical"attacks, granted it would need to be from a exceptionally physically powerful character.

Originally posted by fangirl101
He tapped into the crunch? And the crunch is universal level now? Surfer tapped all of it? how much did he tap? As far as I know, the tap was kryptonite to T and A, so exactly how much did surfer tap? that is what I thought. he didn't tap anything. He redirected it's energies. he didn't take it and absorb it into himself.

Since the Crunch destroys and recreates universes, yes. It's universal level. And it wasn't Kryptonite to T & A, simply the only thing powerful enough to hold them.

He had to absorb some of it in order to redirect it. No indication is given as to how much it was.

Originally posted by fangirl101
He tapped into the crunch? And the crunch is universal level now? Surfer tapped all of it? how much did he tap? As far as I know, the tap was kryptonite to T and A, so exactly how much did surfer tap? that is what I thought. he didn't tap anything. He redirected it's energies. he didn't take it and absorb it into himself.
are those rhetoric questions? we all know your kryptonite is comicbooks.

stop reaching to give superman a win against a guy who can easily play on the weaknesses he has, if norrin is that merciful.