Originally posted by One-Punch
Imagine if Surfer used red sunlight here, instead of yellow:
http://i.imgur.com/hGow0qE.jpg
It would be lights out for Boy Blue. I'm still SMH at the denial about this so called "time stop."
Originally posted by Blue Area VetSuperman cancan strike far harder than Thor with hammer. Superman is far stronger than Thor. A punch is a push. Superman has the strength and speed behind his punches. He just holds back. Imagine 50 Earth weights of force, under light speeds, backing a punch.
Thor's Hammer strike >>>>> Superman's punch. Process that. IF Surfer was KOed, which you haven't provided proof of, it's more than understandable. Provide proof if you are going to make the argument that he was knicked out and don't tell me wincing is the same and as being unconscious.
Superman needed help from Wonder Woman and GL to pull a moon, yet you think a single punch from him carries 50 Earth weights? Lol.
Originally posted by h1a8
Superman cancan strike far harder than Thor with hammer. Superman is far stronger than Thor. A punch is a push. Superman has the strength and speed behind his punches. He just holds back. Imagine 50 Earth weights of force, under light speeds, backing a punch.
Bullshit. Holding back is a piss poor and tiresome EXCUSE. BUT since you are intent on playing this game, Thor holds back as well. When he doesn't, he breaks Celestial 's heads.
What's funny is you are so lather up, you didn't even speak to Abby's so called time stop.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
There was no time stop, not that you care about the truth.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Um, no we don't and a speed blitz isn't shit to begin with, just fight filler. Most people don't believe he would be able to speed blitz Surfer; however 100% of all Superfantics do.
Originally posted by carver9His punch seemed pretty fast to me. You don't have evidence to say that he's slow, especially given that he's kryptonian and that's one of his main powers.
Thats Doomsday Rex. That is not the original Doomsday. Show scans of Doomsday REX speed.Heat does nothing to Surfer. Nothing. And Surfer could probably absorb it anyways or turn his heat vision to candy.
Just because heat vision went through Superman body doesn't mean it will happen to Surfer. Get over it. Surfer was shot by freaking Ego the living planet and didn't have a scratch on him afterwards.
You're trolling. I will ask again, prove that Surfer versatility takes time. A simple scan will do. Do you not understand that I care less about your opinion? Just because you said something doesn't make it a fact. Provide freaking evidence.
Superman used an after image against Mongul, not intangibility.
So Surfer is immune to all heat? Prove it. I can show Firelord burning the hell out of him. Plus hv is concussive too.
You asking me to prove nonsense. What the hell is versatility? That's not a power. Surfer has powers that he can activate fast and powers that takes more time.
Again, versatility is not a power.
Originally posted by Blue Area VetImagine a punch backed by 50 Earth weights of force with devastating kinetic energy. Surfer can be one shot if Superman let's loose. But I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that if Superman lands a good blow then he has an 80% chance of winning.
Bullshit. Holding back is a piss poor and tiresome EXCUSE. BUT since you are intent on playing this game, Thor holds back as well. When he doesn't, he breaks Celestial 's heads.What's funny is you are so lather up, you didn't even speak to Abby's so called time stop.
Originally posted by One-Punchmore than 50 actually. He's capable of it when he let's loose. He has feats of strength over 50 Earth weights of force. That's irrelevant to the scan you shown.
Superman needed help from Wonder Woman and GL to pull a moon, yet you think a single punch from him carries 50 Earth weights? Lol.
Originally posted by One-Punch
👆Current Surfer let Thor hit him directly with a charged hammer strike, and was just fine, not to mention numerous hammer tosses:
http://imgur.com/a/KZRTe#6
http://imgur.com/a/KZRTe#7
http://imgur.com/a/KZRTe#8And it's not like Superman's never been knocked out by peers before...*Cough Orion, Captain Marvel, Konvikt, Atlas. It happens to every hero.
http://imgur.com/EsEon9L.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/14/146504/2872879-superman_v_magic_002.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/308/577205-trinity03013.jpgAnd Superman =/= Thor with Mjolnir. Atleast with Thor, his hammer helps counter energy blasts, and can help Thor bridge the versatility gap (but not close it). And unlike Superman, Thor isn't a living energy battery.
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/supespolaris2.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/7604/2028139-superman_v2_185___14.jpg
Orion surprised a weaker and younger Superman. So did Konvikt. So did Captain Marvel. Surfer has been oneshotted by ****ing Ronan if you're going to post surprise attacks.
Polaris didn't drain Superman, he bent light away from him.
Major Force got melted for all he drained out of Superman.
But even Sun Eater can't drain Superman.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer isn't as good as Parasite in absorbing power. Also Superman has resisted getting drained by far better energy absorbers than surfer.Superman helps in making another small sun and resists his energies getting drained by the sun-eater when others fared much worse
Originally posted by abhilegend
And the aftrementioned sun eater was so powerful that it needed the full power of Parallax to beat it.http://i.imgur.com/w2dlH5M.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zEAUqt9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0IGXJnq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nshOPZ6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pD7Ul2f.jpgAnd it destroyed thousands of worlds, devouring light and heat was its main power.
http://i.imgur.com/QitVjYh.jpg
Superman still resisted being drained by it.
Superman fights hundreds of Adversaries. Mind you a single one is close to as powerful as he is and all of them are draining him. He didn't even notice the draining actually.
So even if he succeeds in draining a small portion of his energy its not going to do him any good.
Unless you think Surfer is hundreds of times as powerful as Superman.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Thor's Hammer strike >>>>> Superman's punch. Process that. IF Surfer was KOed, which you haven't provided proof of, it's more than understandable. Provide proof if you are going to make the argument that he was knicked out and don't tell me wincing is the same and as being unconscious.
From Infinity Watch 23.
And I'd like to see how Thor hits harder than Superman.
Originally posted by One-Punch
Superman needed help from Wonder Woman and GL to pull a moon, yet you think a single punch from him carries 50 Earth weights? Lol.
Pulls Earth with a harness made by hal.
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/JLAv4029b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/JLAv4029c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/JLAv4029d.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/JLAv4029e.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/JLAv4029f.jpg
Look what Starbreaker says in this scan.
"The power of countless red suns flows through my veins."
And that's not a hyperbole as we know he is an evolved sun-eater and has actually consumed the energy of suns.
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/?action=view¤t=star_trueform1.jpg
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/?action=view¤t=star_trueform2.jpg
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/?action=view¤t=star_trueform3.jpg
That was just two issues later.
And yet, Superman and Hal stalemating him completely depowered him.
So if we take "countless" as even two suns, that's way more power than what h1 is using. I know its ludicrous, but facts are facts.
srug
Not the first time either.
Pulls himself out of the source wall which absorbs a planet across lightyears to the hole superman made
Stops moon from spiraling out of orbit for hours opposing a machine which had the power output of a sun
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15249004/26.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248994/80PageGiant01a.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248995/80PageGiant01b.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248996/80PageGiant01c.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248998/80PageGiant01d.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248999/80PageGiant01e.jpg.html
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Originally posted by One-Punch
Why couldn't he resist being drained by low heralds like Major Force and Dr. Polaris?
In both instances Superman won, so I don't know what else you want?
Originally posted by One-Punch
I think you have it backwards.And 3 incidents if you include this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/siphonenergy.jpgAlso which feat are you talking about? Post a scan and tell me the issue #.
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Originally posted by h1a8
Imagine a punch backed by 50 Earth weights of force with devastating kinetic energy. Surfer can be one shot if Superman let's loose. But I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that if Superman lands a good blow then he has an 80% chance of winning.
Says you via your opinion. Even your 80% claim is contigent upon him actually landing the blow. Just stop acting like Superman is the only herald that holds back. Arguablly, Surfer hold back more than any of them.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor was bloodlusted in B&T. He wasn't in Thor. Plus he was weakened by the wound on his side.Orion surprised a weaker and younger Superman. So did Konvikt. So did Captain Marvel. Surfer has been oneshotted by ****ing Ronan if you're going to post surprise attacks.
Polaris didn't drain Superman, he bent light away from him.
Major Force got melted for all he drained out of Superman.
But even Sun Eater can't drain Superman.
Superman fights hundreds of Adversaries. Mind you a single one is close to as powerful as he is and all of them are draining him. He didn't even notice the draining actually.
So even if he succeeds in draining a small portion of his energy its not going to do him any good.
Unless you think Surfer is hundreds of times as powerful as Superman.
Okay, got it. So the guy who is supposedly fast enough to get out of a "time stop" can be beaten if you sneak attack him because his reaction time is garbage, got it.
So he has been drained by Major Force and Polaris draining was a case of semantics. The point is both methods worked and Surfer could do either. Don't count on Surfer melting like Major Force did.
Oh, and Surfer doesn't have to be in contact with Superman to drain him like Parasite.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman resisted being drained by Major Force and melted him into slag just two pages after that. Polaris didn't even drain Superman.In both instances Superman won, so I don't know what else you want?
Triumph can absorb energies not even GL rings can. He was also powered by imp magic there which is inherently more dangerous to Superman.😬
We want you to admit the truth that he is vulnerable to draining by certain beings as proved in comics rather than spin, get off topic and cheerlead. Superman won? So what? Stay on topic.
