Originally posted by h1a8
Superman cancan strike far harder than Thor with hammer. Superman is far stronger than Thor. A punch is a push. Superman has the strength and speed behind his punches. He just holds back. Imagine 50 Earth weights of force, under light speeds, backing a punch.
Originally posted by h1a8
Imagine a punch backed by 50 Earth weights of force with devastating kinetic energy. Surfer can be one shot if Superman let's loose. But I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that if Superman lands a good blow then he has an 80% chance of winning.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Okay, got it. So the guy who is supposedly fast enough to get out of a "time stop" can be beaten if you sneak attack him because his reaction time is garbage, got it.So he has been drained by Major Force and Polaris draining was a case of semantics. The point is both methods worked and Surfer could do either. Don't count on Surfer melting like Major Force did.
Oh, and Surfer doesn't have to be in contact with Superman to drain him like Parasite.
Good luck with that.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
We want you to admit the truth that he is vulnerable to draining by certain beings as proved in comics rather than spin, get off topic and cheerlead. Superman won? So what? Stay on topic.
Keep on hating.
Originally posted by carver9
Dr. Light also dropped him as well ABHI.Both Surfer and Superman have not at their best showings, it's best to focus on the average here.
Where Superman is weakened due to Vixen stealing a portion of his powers and Lex's kryptonite armor affecting him.
Typical Carter.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Now you're just hating.Good luck with that.
😂Keep on hating.
So you're once again just using low showings.Where Superman is weakened due to Vixen stealing a portion of his powers and Lex's kryptonite armor affecting him.
Typical Carter.
No, actually I am putting your inconsistent, hypocritical and often false stances on display for everyone to consider.
Like I said, the only one referring to this as a "time stop" is you. He slowed time greatly, he did not stop it. You are claiming Superman overcame a "time stop" with "sheer speed" which is in fact a lie. Ironically, if you are indeed attempting to showcase Superman's speed, you'd explain that he moved so fast he was able to overcome a weapon which slowed down time greatly. Leave it to you to go over the top.
But of course the problem with you is while you are crying about others lowballing Superman, you constantly do the opposite, argue from the high end. Superman is very fast, but suggesting that he moves at breakneck speed so often that another equally fast opponent would have no chance against him is pure lunacy. That's not how characters operate, and I am referring to ANY character including true speedsters like Flash and Runner. When you engage in this nonsense, you continue to lose credibility. When you make excuses for Superman for every short performance, you lose credibility. And when you attempt to change the focus toward people who point out the fallacy in your positions by calling them names such as hater, you lose credibility.
PS: They did hear Kal coming which means he was flying slower than the speed of sound, so what's the problem?
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
No, actually I am putting your inconsistent, hypocritical and often false stances on display for everyone to consider.Like I said, the only one referring to this as a "time stop" is you. He slowed time greatly, he did not stop it. You are claiming Superman overcame a "time stop" with "sheer speed" which is in fact a lie. Ironically, if you are indeed attempting to showcase Superman's speed, you'd explain that he moved so fast he was able to overcome a weapon which slowed down time greatly. Leave it to you to go over the top.
But of course the problem with you is while you are crying about others lowballing Superman, you constantly do the opposite, argue from the high end. Superman is very fast, but suggesting that he moves at breakneck speed so often that another equally fast opponent would have no chance against him is pure lunacy. That's not how characters operate, and I am referring to ANY character including true speedsters like Flash and Runner. When you engage in this nonsense, you continue to lose credibility. When you make excuses for Superman for every short performance, you lose credibility. And when you attempt to change the focus toward people who point out the fallacy in your positions by calling them names such as hater, you lose credibility.
PS: They did hear Kal coming which means he was flying slower than the speed of sound, so what's the problem?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Trying too hard there.
👆
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
So.......Superman can be "weakened" by a meta, but Superman's too fast for SS to drain him? 😂Also, Superman doesn't always fly at light speed, so you can't claim that he was flying slower than light due to being "weakened", especially when it isn't referenced in the panel of him getting tagged.
Like I said you are trying too hard.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also, didn't Superman in the preceding scan interact with Parasite? For a short time period, sure..
He is powered by starlight. Superman absorbs it right out of him.
Perfect way to win.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Have you even read the comic? Vixen was powered by a chaos God and she could drain beings like Wonder woman of their power.Like I said you are trying too hard.
Okay, but it's not at all relevant as there is no indication whatsoever that it prevented Superman from achieving light speed. I read what was posted and the explanation you are offering (offering as in dreaming up) simply isn't there.