Kram3r gets a call

Originally posted by Naz
It's not even about you, how could it be insulting to you? And besides, it wasn't meant to insult, everyone else figured that out, and it was pretty funny, most everyone else figured that out too. And again, it's not about you, or Rexxy, it's about Lanceykens, so I think he should be the final authority on whether he finds it insulting or humorous and until he says such either way in this thread, I don't think anyone had the right to edit it out or go ranting about how horrible it was.

Yes it did insult me, it might have been meant to be in good nature but it didn't come across that way. It came across as him mocking me for being overweight, for having dated a couple KMC women, and other things...that's not funny, it's insulting. You may find this video funny, but trust me, if it were about you and your downfalls and you gave no consent to be made fun of, you'd be insulted too.

I opted not to say anything in this thread regardless of how I felt about the video, but now I guess I have to make this unnecessary post to shut people up. I could have asked a moderator to remove it since it was about me, but I didn't...you know why? Because I didn't want people bitching about how I "can't take a joke". Surprise, surprise, that's exactly what is going on here, even though I wasn't the one who reported the video or asked anyone to remove it. Someone else felt it was in bad taste and they are the ones who reported it, so (RJ, this is to you) stop with the snarky comments aimed in my direction about the video being taken down, that's completely unfair and only proves your ignorance of knowing nothing about the ****ing situation.

Originally posted by Tattoo
Yes it did insult me, it might have been meant to be in good nature but it didn't come across that way. It came across as him mocking me for being overweight, for having dated a couple KMC women, and other things...that's not funny, it's insulting. You may find this video funny, but trust me, if it were about you and your downfalls and you gave no consent to be made fun of, you'd be insulted too.

I opted not to say anything in this thread regardless of how I felt about the video, but now I guess I have to make this unnecessary post to shut people up. I could have asked a moderator to remove it since it was about me, but I didn't...you know why? Because I didn't want people bitching about how I "can't take a joke". Surprise, surprise, that's exactly what is going on here, even though I wasn't the one who reported the video or asked anyone to remove it. Someone else felt it was in bad taste and they are the ones who reported it, so (RJ, this is to you) stop with the snarky comments aimed in my direction about the video being taken down, that's completely unfair and only proves your arrogance of knowing nothing about the ****ing situation.

I agree with you.

Originally posted by Naz
It's not even about you, how could it be insulting to you? And besides, it wasn't meant to insult, everyone else figured that out, and it was pretty funny, most everyone else figured that out too. And again, it's not about you, or Rexxy, it's about Lanceykens, so I think he should be the final authority on whether he finds it insulting or humorous and until he says such either way in this thread, I don't think anyone had the right to edit it out or go ranting about how horrible it was.

Honey, this site's not a democracy.

Just putting that out there for you.

Originally posted by Tattoo
Yes it did insult me, it might have been meant to be in good nature but it didn't come across that way. It came across as him mocking me for being overweight, for having dated a couple KMC women, and other things...that's not funny, it's insulting. You may find this video funny, but trust me, if it were about you and your downfalls and you gave no consent to be made fun of, you'd be insulted too.

I opted not to say anything in this thread regardless of how I felt about the video, but now I guess I have to make this unnecessary post to shut people up. I could have asked a moderator to remove it since it was about me, but I didn't...you know why? Because I didn't want people bitching about how I "can't take a joke". Surprise, surprise, that's exactly what is going on here, even though I wasn't the one who reported the video or asked anyone to remove it. Someone else felt it was in bad taste and they are the ones who reported it, so (RJ, this is to you) stop with the snarky comments aimed in my direction about the video being taken down, that's completely unfair and only proves your ignorance of knowing nothing about the ****ing situation.

BTW: I said "some people", not "Ken". Though you seem a bit touchy about your weight. If thats the case, do something about it. Slim fast works, I have lost 33 pounds since June.

It was a good natured jab, the vid was, thats all. You think if the vid was about me, and Kram3r portrayed me as one of those people who wait for weeks in line to se a SW movie I would have been offended? No. I would have taken it for what it was, a joke. If anything, I would have just made my own vid about him, have fun with it.

When will people learn that they don't get to decide what other people find offensive...

Originally posted by Lana
When will people learn that they don't get to decide what other people find offensive...

lets say you and I joked around all the time, all in good fun. and say I say something that offends you, but you KNOW that I didnt mean to offend you. what then?

would you think to yourself "well, he didnt mean it, I'll just come back and burn him?"

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I agree, BUT....

lets say you and I joked around all the time, all in good fun. and say I say something that offends you, but you KNOW that I didnt mean to offend you. what then?

would you think to yourself "well, he didnt mean it, I'll just come back and burn him?"

It wouldn't matter if you claim to have not meant to offend me. The fact still remains that you did.

People always claim "oh it's just a joke" in an attempt to cover their asses. That doesn't make it true, nor does it mean that everyone has to take it as a joke.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
all you have proven is that you cant take a joke from someone who considered you a FRIEND.

BTW: I said "some people", not "Ken". Though you seem a bit touchy about your weight. If thats the case, do something about it. Slim fast works, I have lost 33 pounds since June.

It was a good natured jab, the vid was, thats all. You think if the vid was about me, and Kram3r portrayed me as one of those people who wait for weeks in line to se a SW movie I would have been offended? No. I would have taken it for what it was, a joke. If anything, I would have just made my own vid about him, have fun with it.

Someone who mocks you so harshly for no reason is not a friend. My sense of humor is not like yours, or Kram3r's, or Scythe's. I can take offense to the video because maybe I am touchy about issues in my life that are none of anyone's business but my own.

Don't give me your bullshit, John, you made it painfully obvious you were directing those comments towards the person who the video was about. About my weight, not that it matters, but I have done something about it...my friends know about it too, they don't mock the shit out of it for laughs, they support me in something that is important to me mentally and physically.

Of course you wouldn't take offense to a video portraying you as a SW geek because you asked for him to make that video. You want him to mock you for good fun, more power to you. I, however, did not ask for this video to be made and I don't approve of it, how hard is that to understand?

Originally posted by Lana
It wouldn't matter if you claim to have not meant to offend me. The fact still remains that you did.

People always claim "oh it's just a joke" in an attempt to cover their asses. That doesn't make it true, nor does it mean that everyone has to take it as a joke.

not the case here.

Originally posted by Tattoo
Someone who mocks you so harshly for no reason is not a friend. My sense of humor is not like yours, or Kram3r's, or Scythe's. I can take offense to the video because maybe I am touchy about issues in my life that are none of anyone's business but my own.

Don't give me your bullshit, John, you made it painfully obvious you were directing those comments towards the person who the video was about. About my weight, not that it matters, but I have done something about it...my friends know about it too, they don't mock the shit out of it for laughs, they support me in something that is important to me mentally and physically.

Of course you wouldn't take offense to a video portraying you as a SW geek because you asked for him to make that video. You want him to mock you for good fun, more power to you. I, however, did not ask for this video to be made and I don't approve of it, how hard is that to understand?

think about this: of all the people in the world, who are you the most comfortable with making fun of you for shits and giggles? meaning nothing by it, not trying to be insulting, just kidding? thats what friends are for. to be there when you need them, for support, and also the occasional good natured ribbing.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
even if he did it outta the blue I wouldnt be upset. I would be like "oh that ****er, I am gonna get him", and take a jab back at him.

think about this: of all the people in the world, who are you the most comfortable with making fun of you for shits and giggles? meaning nothing by it, not trying to be insulting, just kidding? thats what friends are for. to be there when you need them, for support, and also the occasional good natured ribbing.

That's you, not me.

Of all the people in the world, who am I most comfortable with joking around with me for fun? My close friends, the ones who know where the line is drawn. The ones who know that the point of "good natured ribbing" is not to insult someone for personal laughs while making the other person feel like shit.

Originally posted by Tattoo
That's you, not me.

Of all the people in the world, who am I most comfortable with joking around with me for fun? My close friends, the ones who know where the line is drawn. The ones who know that the point of "good natured ribbing" is not to insult someone for personal laughs while making the other person feel like shit.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
so if I called you 4 eyes, you'd seriously take that offensively?

No, because that's not a personal jab. Portraying me as a fat slob who sits on his ass all day stuffing his face full of food, that's insulting. Mentioning my personal life of having dated a couple girls from KMC and mocking the fact that I have done that, that's insulting. Saying I have 4 eyes because of my glasses, while childish and idiotic, is not insulting.

Originally posted by Tattoo
No, because that's not a personal jab. Portraying me as a fat slob who sits on his ass all day stuffing his face full of food, that's insulting. Mentioning my personal life of having dated a couple girls from KMC and mocking the fact that I have done that, that's insulting. Saying I have 4 eyes because of my glasses, while childish and idiotic, is not insulting.

I just think you are being too sensitive about it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, I guess it takes less to insult you than it does most others.

I just think you are being too sensitive about it.

You mentioned the fact that you are a Star Wars geek. That's not on the same level as mocking someone's weight or love life.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, I guess it takes less to insult you than it does most others.

I just think you are being too sensitive about it.

Everyone is different, get that through your thick skull for ****s sake. Just because you don't find it insulting doesn't mean that others won't. I have psychological issues stemming from my body weight, serious issues that only I know the full extent of. When someone makes jest of me for it I feel deeply hurt, especially when it comes from a so called friend. You don't understand because you're not me, so if you don't mind...quit trying to tell me to not be insulted, you don't know a God damned thing.

Originally posted by Strangelove
Someone mocking your personal life over the internet where everyone can see and then you being offended by that is not being too sensitive. If anything, you're being too insensitive.

You mentioned the fact that you are a Star Wars geek. That's not on the same level as mocking someone's weight or love life.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
well then I guess the majority of the members who have posted here are being insensitive. Guess you and Ken are the only ones in touch with your level of sensitivity.

Me, Strangles, Lana, Roulette, kodak, Vinny (in MSN)...the list can go on.

Originally posted by Tattoo
Everyone is different, get that through your thick skull for ****s sake. Just because you don't find it insulting doesn't mean that others won't. I have psychological issues stemming from my body weight, serious issues that only I know the full extent of. When someone makes jest of me for it I feel deeply hurt, especially when it comes from a so called friend. You don't understand because you're not me, so if you don't mind...quit trying to tell me to not be insulted, you don't know a God damned thing.

I just dont see how you being overweight is such a touchy subject for you. But I guess we all have our own personal insecurities.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
well then I guess the majority of the members who have posted here are being insensitive.