Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
sure about that?
Yes, I am. When he saw how I felt about the video he said he understood, which speaks volumes more than some assh*le going on about how I should be less sensitive about matters which are psychologically traumatizing to myself and which also aflicts millions of other people in the world.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
and again I point out that there are far more who laughed about it then AND now than there are who now thinks it was insensitive.
And how many people have posted since I stated my opinions? You and Kodak...and it's right down the middle. Most decent human beings would at least be sensitive to the feelings of someone else after said person goes on record stating that they are offended. I can guarantee that once more people see my feelings for the video they will understand where I'm coming from.
Originally posted by Strangeloveso you don't think that we are onto something? EVERYONE who laughed at this vid is wrong in some way?
Ummm...majority doesn't rule here, buddy. It was insensitive. That fact is not up for discussion. I was being sarcastic too, genius.
think about this...what if this vid was about me and made fun of me in such a way that I was just as upset as Ken is, would you be so quick to judge, so quick to rush to my defense? I think not. you would be laughing your ass off all night watching it. go on admit it.
I am sorry if Ken got his feelings hurt, but come on, you can honestly watch the vid and not laugh? not even a snigger? not a crooked smile?
Originally posted by Rogue JediI don't think Kram3r's videos are all that funny, to be honest. If he had better comedic timing, that would be a different story.
so you don't think that we are onto something? EVERYONE who laughed at this vid is wrong in some way?think about this...what if this vid was about me and made fun of me in such a way that I was just as upset as Ken is, would you be so quick to judge, so quick to rush to my defense? I think not. you would be laughing your ass off all night watching it. go on admit it.
If you were offended by a video that anyone posted making fun of your personal life, I would feel exactly the same way. I probably wouldn't speak up about it, because I honestly don't like you, but yeah, I would be on your side.
Of course, that situation also requires a lot of members laughing at your personal problems and an insensitive boor playing your part.
I am sorry if Ken got his feelings hurt, but come on, you can honestly watch the vid and not laugh? not even a snigger? not a crooked smile?Nope. Not a single twitch of the mouth.
John, here's something for you. How about I go to Kram3r with the details of the discussions between you and I over the last couple of months, regarding a certain someone? I'm sure there are plenty of people here who would find it entertaining to see a video parody of you. Forget the Star Wars crap, that'd mean you got to choose the stuff Kram3r rips you for. Slightly unfair since Ken didn't see that video coming and didn't appreciate it once it arrived.
I didn't even see that video and I don't care to see it, far as I'm concerned I can practically feel Ken's hurt and I can sense the distaste emanating from various other KMC members who have seen it. That's enough for me, why the hell isn't Ken's outright disappointment enough for you to leave well alone? Trust me, if a video appeared about you and certain ocurrences you'd be just as pissed off, so don't pretend any different.
I'd quit while you're 'ahead', John. Take this piece of advice from me, a friend, and take it like a decent person.
Originally posted by Syrenum....as far as I know, the argument is over. Strangles has said his piece, as have I.
John, here's something for you. How about I go to Kram3r with the details of the discussions between you and I over the last couple of months, regarding a certain someone? I'm sure there are plenty of people here who would find it entertaining to see a video parody of you. Forget the Star Wars crap, that'd mean you got to choose the stuff Kram3r rips you for. Slightly unfair since Ken didn't see that video coming and didn't appreciate it once it arrived.I didn't even see that video and I don't care to see it, far as I'm concerned I can practically feel Ken's hurt and I can sense the distaste emanating from various other KMC members who have seen it. That's enough for me, why the hell isn't Ken's outright disappointment enough for you to leave well alone? Trust me, if a video appeared about you and certain ocurrences you'd be just as pissed off, so don't pretend any different.
I'd quit while you're 'ahead', John. Take this piece of advice from me, a friend, and take it like a decent person.
I have a question....did Kram3r KNOW that Ken had serious issues with his weight before he made the vid? now, IF Kram3r knew that beforehand, knew Ken was VERY sensitive about it, then yes, the vid was done in poor taste.
you going to Kram3r with personal info on me that you KNOW I am sensitive about and him making a vid on, that'd be the same as Kram3r saying "Hey, Ken is sensitive about his weight, I am gonna rip him for it!!!"
feel me?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
um....as far as I know, the argument is over. Strangles has said his piece, as have I.I have a question....did Kram3r KNOW that Ken had serious issues with his weight before he made the vid? now, IF Kram3r knew that beforehand, knew Ken was VERY sensitive about it, then yes, the vid was done in poor taste.
you going to Kram3r with personal info on me that you KNOW I am sensitive about and him making a vid on, that'd be the same as Kram3r saying "Hey, Ken is sensitive about his weight, I am gonna rip him for it!!!"
feel me?
I wasn't trying to set off the argument again, I just read everything you said and couldn't not say something to you. As a friend, you know?
I have no idea if Kram3r knew or not, but that's so not the issue. The problem is your comments about the vid being removed, as if it shouldn't have been. The 'victim', if you will, of the parody, is Ken. And Ken didn't appreciate the video. As far as I'm aware, it wasn't even Ken who asked for the vid to be removed. Ken's friends are guilty of that.
You're out of line in your entire argument against the removal of a video that is not about you, doesn't implicate you and doesn't offend you in any way. As a matter of fact, your entire opinion is irrelevant. It only served to make you look like an insensitive ass.
Seriously, see it from my point of view. An objective spectator. I read the thread from start to finish and I haven't even seen the video in question. You come across as an ignorant, stubborn ass in all of this, from my point of view. Just thought you ought to know 😬
I wouldn't go to anyone with the details of what we've discussed, because that's private. It was an example, try to imagine how you would feel if something was created specifically to ridicule you and to highlight something you felt deeply about.
Originally posted by Syrenwell, whatever the case, regardless of who is right or who is wrong, I think this whole thing has been blown out of proportion. and yes, I am guilty of doing my part, but I am not the only one.
I wasn't trying to set off the argument again, I just read everything you said and couldn't not say something to you. As a friend, you know?I have no idea if Kram3r knew or not, but that's so not the issue. The problem is your comments about the vid being removed, as if it shouldn't have been. The 'victim', if you will, of the parody, is Ken. And Ken didn't appreciate the video. As far as I'm aware, it wasn't even Ken who asked for the vid to be removed. Ken's friends are guilty of that.
You're out of line in your entire argument against the removal of a video that is not about you, doesn't implicate you and doesn't offend you in any way. As a matter of fact, your entire opinion is irrelevant. It only served to make you look like an insensitive ass.
Seriously, see it from my point of view. An objective spectator. I read the thread from start to finish and I haven't even seen the video in question. You come across as an ignorant, stubborn ass in all of this, from my point of view. Just thought you ought to know 😬
I wouldn't go to anyone with the details of what we've discussed, because that's private. It was an example, try to imagine how you would feel if something was created specifically to ridicule you and to highlight something you felt deeply about.
Ken got offended. Sorry, Ken. shall we let life continue now?
Kram3r says:
I'm not coming back on KMC for a while
Michael says:
wtf, why not?
Kram3r says:
Posted some vid about Ken and everyone had a sook about it
Michael says:
...
Michael says:
serious?
Kram3r says:
Yeah, but tell them they're a bunch of wankers for me
Kram3r says:
And they all love cock.
Kram3r says:
And I dont mean chicken haermm
Michael says:
.cryl
srug
Originally posted by Mišt
Kram3r says:
I'm not coming back on KMC for a while
Michael says:
wtf, why not?
Kram3r says:
Posted some vid about Ken and everyone had a sook about it
Michael says:
...
Michael says:
serious?
Kram3r says:
Yeah, but tell them they're a bunch of wankers for me
Kram3r says:
And they all love cock.
Kram3r says:
And I dont mean chicken haermm
Michael says:
.crylsrug